7-8 grand to build
12-29-2016, 07:00 PM
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7-8 grand to build
I have a 09 tc cobalt with a dp no cat, 2.5in exsuast to the 3in tip, and a gm stage 1 tune so pushing 22 pounds on the turbo. Everything els is stock and I was looking to spend 7-8k to build it up for the streets. Just looking for some suggestions on what would give it the most hp for the money. Thanks!
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12-30-2016, 07:01 PM
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I have a 09 tc cobalt with a dp no cat, 2.5in exsuast to the 3in tip, and a gm stage 1 tune so pushing 22 pounds on the turbo. Everything els is stock and I was looking to spend 7-8k to build it up for the streets. Just looking for some suggestions on what would give it the most hp for the money. Thanks!
12-30-2016, 07:38 PM
#5
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building a fwd car for the streets to me doesnt make sense. i personally would base my build off of a rwd or awd platform. but if the cobalt is your thing, f40 trans, twin disk clutch, efr (or zfr might be better) turbo setup, fmic w/ hard pipes, 3" exhaust, race gas and a nice tune would be a good start.
01-01-2017, 01:51 AM
#8
building a fwd car for the streets to me doesnt make sense. i personally would base my build off of a rwd or awd platform. but if the cobalt is your thing, f40 trans, twin disk clutch, efr (or zfr might be better) turbo setup, fmic w/ hard pipes, 3" exhaust, race gas and a nice tune would be a good start.
01-01-2017, 10:10 AM
#10
They all have their problems. Fwd, traction and torque steer, rwd, the ass likes to come out with to much power , fun but more dangerous. Awd- needs a lot more done to make the power to the ground. Fwd is still fun and works if done right. Living where I live with winter is take fwd or awd over rwd any day
01-01-2017, 01:50 PM
#11
They all have their problems. Fwd, traction and torque steer, rwd, the ass likes to come out with to much power , fun but more dangerous. Awd- needs a lot more done to make the power to the ground. Fwd is still fun and works if done right. Living where I live with winter is take fwd or awd over rwd any day
01-01-2017, 08:34 PM
#14
no one said there is any advantage, you just wont loose control in show as easily as you will with rwd. you gotta do something pretty stupid to loose control in snow with fwd, with rwd, all u have to do is blip the throttle a little on hard snow or ice.
01-03-2017, 10:13 AM
#17
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the aftermarket support is there, but its not huge like it is with mustangs, ls cars, Hondas...
starting with a fwd car for street use makes launching hard. at the track it's hard enough to get out of the hole decently, then add unprepped pavement and it gets even harder.
once you get above certain limits, to upgrade is so much more expensive because aftermarket vendors aren't moving as many parts so they have to cover r&d by jacking up prices.
fueling for DI engines is limited. after a certain point you're adding more injectors versus port injection has umpteen thousand different injectors to choose from. carb cars just need a rejetting.
im not saying it's wrong. it'll just be a more expensive route to go for the return you get. but you do what youre into.
fast, cheap, reliable... pick 2. I'd build up the driveline first. having a shop do the work i think will limit you to either a turbo upgrade kit or a trans & clutch upgrade but you wont be able to do both. so, f40 trans, clutch, fmic kit w/pipes, and tune. you might be able to get a k04r on there too and cams.
starting with a fwd car for street use makes launching hard. at the track it's hard enough to get out of the hole decently, then add unprepped pavement and it gets even harder.
once you get above certain limits, to upgrade is so much more expensive because aftermarket vendors aren't moving as many parts so they have to cover r&d by jacking up prices.
fueling for DI engines is limited. after a certain point you're adding more injectors versus port injection has umpteen thousand different injectors to choose from. carb cars just need a rejetting.
im not saying it's wrong. it'll just be a more expensive route to go for the return you get. but you do what youre into.
fast, cheap, reliable... pick 2. I'd build up the driveline first. having a shop do the work i think will limit you to either a turbo upgrade kit or a trans & clutch upgrade but you wont be able to do both. so, f40 trans, clutch, fmic kit w/pipes, and tune. you might be able to get a k04r on there too and cams.
Last edited by FLASH1970; 01-03-2017 at 10:28 AM.
01-03-2017, 10:42 AM
#19
the aftermarket support is there, but its not huge like it is with mustangs, ls cars, Hondas...
starting with a fwd car for street use makes launching hard. at the track it's hard enough to get out of the hole decently, then add unprepped pavement and it gets even harder.
once you get above certain limits, to upgrade is so much more expensive because aftermarket vendors aren't moving as many parts so they have to cover r&d by jacking up prices.
fueling for DI engines is limited. after a certain point you're adding more injectors versus port injection has umpteen thousand different injectors to choose from. carb cars just need a rejetting.
im not saying it's wrong. it'll just be a more expensive route to go for the return you get. but you do what youre into.
fast, cheap, reliable... pick 2. I'd build up the driveline first. having a shop do the work i think will limit you to either a turbo upgrade kit or a trans & clutch upgrade but you wont be able to do both. so, f40 trans, clutch, fmic kit w/pipes, and tune. you might be able to get a k04r on there too and cams.
starting with a fwd car for street use makes launching hard. at the track it's hard enough to get out of the hole decently, then add unprepped pavement and it gets even harder.
once you get above certain limits, to upgrade is so much more expensive because aftermarket vendors aren't moving as many parts so they have to cover r&d by jacking up prices.
fueling for DI engines is limited. after a certain point you're adding more injectors versus port injection has umpteen thousand different injectors to choose from. carb cars just need a rejetting.
im not saying it's wrong. it'll just be a more expensive route to go for the return you get. but you do what youre into.
fast, cheap, reliable... pick 2. I'd build up the driveline first. having a shop do the work i think will limit you to either a turbo upgrade kit or a trans & clutch upgrade but you wont be able to do both. so, f40 trans, clutch, fmic kit w/pipes, and tune. you might be able to get a k04r on there too and cams.
01-03-2017, 11:08 AM
#20
the 7-8k won't get to far to be honest. Let's say you go zfr that's 2k plus labor. You go f40 swap that's 3k plus labor. You still need tires, suspension, intercooler, tune etc plus you haven't even touched the engine yet.
Makes me look how much I've spend on my car lol
Makes me look how much I've spend on my car lol
01-03-2017, 11:27 AM
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01-03-2017, 12:37 PM
#22
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Perspective sucks doesn't it? I try not to look back and think about the money I have into cars, its too depressing.
OP, is there a reason your planning to get a shop to do it? That $7-8k will go farther if you do the work yourself! If your not so mechanically inclined, friends can be helpful, and you'll never learn without getting your hands dirty.
OP, is there a reason your planning to get a shop to do it? That $7-8k will go farther if you do the work yourself! If your not so mechanically inclined, friends can be helpful, and you'll never learn without getting your hands dirty.
01-03-2017, 01:16 PM
#23
the 7-8k won't get to far to be honest. Let's say you go zfr that's 2k plus labor. You go f40 swap that's 3k plus labor. You still need tires, suspension, intercooler, tune etc plus you haven't even touched the engine yet.
Makes me look how much I've spend on my car lol
Makes me look how much I've spend on my car lol
01-03-2017, 03:21 PM
#25
One example: I spent just under 8 grand (or $0.16 per mile) on brakes and tires alone
