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Old 07-22-2014, 10:26 AM
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ZZP Dyno Tuning

Has anyone done this yet? i've been tossing around the idea, seeing how i'm going to eventually get an intake, IC, pipes etc etc and i've already got the 3" catless DP...

I am wondering what all they "are up to do" when they are doing this? i was thinking about changing injector seals and getting them to also tune for E85 or whatever since a pretty good amount of places between home and work have pumps for it.. so might as well...

pretty much, do they use HPT, will they do "specialty" things E, cat warm up delete, etc etc things like that
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no substitute for going in person, with the car, to experts and tuning on a dyno and on the street. worth the trip
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
no substitute for going in person, with the car, to experts and tuning on a dyno and on the street. worth the trip
hah yeah and its not to far from me actually.... when i do go i'll drive up one day stay at my brothers(farmington hills area) then goto ZZP the following day etc etc
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im making the 7.5 hour drive over there from NY in a couple weeks. Wanted a tune in person and not from someone i dont know over the internet. Some peace of mind especially bc the cobalt is my DD in the summer months. Worth it IMO
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summer months hah DD every day...
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I'm dyno tuned by them. Yes, they use HP tuners and can tune you on E, shut off your cat warm up, etc. They did all that for me.
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Originally Posted by bmartz1991
I'm dyno tuned by them. Yes, they use HP tuners and can tune you on E, shut off your cat warm up, etc. They did all that for me.
What's it run? Chances are everything but the 3bar sensors would be installed prior..... seeing how from what I've read they make it run like junk without gms1 or a tune at all.....
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ZZP does a great job. Matt M is the man.
They don't run bad w/o the 3 bar MAP sensor, it just won't read boost over 23.5PSI.

I don't have them installed, but my tune with ZZP is great.

One thing to note: the 3 bar MAP sensors need to be tuned for, according to ZZP's website.
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yeah i know the sensors need to be tuned for, thats why i was wondering if anyone knows the cost they'd charge to add them on.... eh who knows...

pretty much i'd like it to go like this

Dyno before anything - Baseline

Dyno after a tune is applied/adjusted to reliable/"safe" parameters - Normal power output

Dyno after E has been added(while running E of course) - High End output

so that the gains are actually on paper vs just a feeling of "oh yeah it feels faster/more powerful" hah
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The sensors you can do in the parking lot there with a 10mm socket (I'm pretty sure) and a phillips screw driver in about 5 minutes if you got the plug and play harness
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yeah but i've got no way to get under the car(you need to dont you?) oh and i am incredibly lazy most of the time...
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Nah the lower tmaps on the top of the cold pipe, easier to get from the top IMO
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I just went yesterday to get tuned for E85! I was there a couple months ago and got tuned with intake, charge pipe, 3" zzp catless downpipe, and it dynoed at 293whp 333ft-lbs after E85 witch i got stock cam with upgraded fuel lobe it dynoed at 316whp 340ft-lbs! I was hoping for higher numbers but its better than before
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Originally Posted by justinkeith_sstc
I just went yesterday to get tuned for E85! I was there a couple months ago and got tuned with intake, charge pipe, 3" zzp catless downpipe, and it dynoed at 293whp 333ft-lbs after E85 witch i got stock cam with upgraded fuel lobe it dynoed at 316whp 340ft-lbs! I was hoping for higher numbers but its better than before
Wow that's a shitty tune, 91 can make 330/380.
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Originally Posted by GreenySC2
What's it run? Chances are everything but the 3bar sensors would be installed prior..... seeing how from what I've read they make it run like junk without gms1 or a tune at all.....
Around $250 for the tune. They installed my GMS1 sensors, it wasn't much at all.
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
Wow that's a shitty tune, 91 can make 330/380.
Slow, was that necessary?
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Originally Posted by wol-shiver
Slow, was that necessary?
i'd say absolutely...

call me crazy, but i would like to have reliable numbers like these

300-320hp on 93 or whatever premium is..
320-350hp on E85 yep

With intake, pipes, downpipe, IC, and well i think thats it pertaining to any sort of HP gain..
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I'd rather have a good tune that rips on the street than a dyno queen that has a massive torque spike and falls on its face afterwards.
But thats none of my business...
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well yeah, but i'm not going for some insane dyno number, just one that relates well from dyno to street....

i really want an RPD but i dont feel like installing it hah
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ZZP will pretty much do everything you need, if theres something you want/need just let them know there willing to work with people.
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Originally Posted by xsithx
ZZP will pretty much do everything you need, if theres something you want/need just let them know there willing to work with people.
Might have to swap to bov when I go
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I'm getting tuned there on the 5th of august and I can't wait. It's gonna be like a 10 hour drive.
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Originally Posted by Dyn0mitemat
Nah the lower tmaps on the top of the cold pipe, easier to get from the top IMO
This. I bought the plug-and-play harnesses and 3-bars from CED and put them in in about 5 minutes, from the top. Just make sure you have the right O-rings on them.
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Originally Posted by Speed_Thrills
They don't run bad w/o the 3 bar MAP sensor, it just won't read boost over 23.5PSI. I don't have them installed, but my tune with ZZP is great.
I was dyno tuned without a 3 bar, and did pretty well. All i have is an Intake/Exhaust, no other mods and i got 280/285 to the wheels.
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Originally Posted by Sl0wbaltSS
Wow that's a shitty tune, 91 can make 330/380.
No one with a stock turbo is going to put down anywhere close to 330 on 91 octane on a Mustang dyno. I'd expect something in the 280s on 91 without being overly aggressive.


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