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Old 12-15-2011, 02:42 PM
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Exclamation ZZP Stage 4 / South Bend Clutch

Got my clutch today.

Reading through the papers that came with:

"Do not use our clutch in any situation where engine RPM's may exceed manufacturer's specifications - a pressure plate could explode unexpectedly causing serious injury or death to vehicle occupants and bystandards. Clutch cover and bell housing will not protect against exploding pressure plates."
I thought this was suppose to be the best clutch. Can't go past manufacturer's RPMS?...

Well that sux. I thought this was suppose to be able to handle more...

Also I have to machine my fly wheel and as much as it cost to get it machined I could have just bought a new one. Wish I knew that.
Old 12-15-2011, 02:51 PM
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Maybe that statement is just to cover their butts incase you decide to move your redline to 10k? lol
I plan on buying one later this winter - I've only read good things about the ZZP clutch... *shrug*
Old 12-15-2011, 02:56 PM
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Its just a warning so you can't go after them if the clutch explodes and blasts through the floor and blows your junk off.
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This is why lol..


flywheel explosion - YouTube
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Thats just nuts donkey lol
Old 12-15-2011, 03:22 PM
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"notice how it moves the car" that ******* thing jumped.
Old 12-15-2011, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeyballs
****, I don't know if I want my fly wheel machined now... kinda REALLY wanting a new one now... That may sting a little.

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Old 12-15-2011, 03:35 PM
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I didn't realize you could get a new flywheel for $120 until recently, either.
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Originally Posted by SSlobalt
I didn't realize you could get a new flywheel for $120 until recently, either.
I seen you could, but didn't know that you had to have a new one or machine the current one.

If I had of known it needed to be machined I would have got one from ZZP while ordering from there.

To late now though as the car is off to the UK on Wednesday.
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Yeah, you never want to put a new clutch in without a new or resurfaced flywheel.

UK?
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That doesn't happen a lot lol.. You have nothing to worry about with your flywheel/clutch.
Old 12-15-2011, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlobalt
Yeah, you never want to put a new clutch in without a new or resurfaced flywheel.

UK?
Yip, moving over to Belfast, Northern Ireland.
Better gas there lol. Cost twice as much though...
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Originally Posted by donkeyballs
That doesn't happen a lot lol.. You have nothing to worry about with your flywheel/clutch.
Hope not. Was never worried about death my clutch / flywheel till now lol...
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Clutch is made to ZZP specs. YOu can beat on it, rev to 9k, make 500WHP no problem.
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You just got your Stage 4??

I was told the disk for it was on backorder for another 1 or 2 weeks... may hold up finishing my engine install past my target date.


On the earlier topic, it looks like ZZP says it'll be fine after all, but here's another vid of when a clutch explodes. Fast forward to 2:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJtJUVyEyYY

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Originally Posted by Zooomer
Clutch is made to ZZP specs. YOu can beat on it, rev to 9k, make 500WHP no problem.
Well I was thinking so. I mean you guys run them, so...

Just read that and kind of shocked me to see it.

Thanks
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[QUOTE=Stamina;6212645]You just got your Stage 4??

I was told the disk for it was on backorder for another 1 or 2 weeks... may hold up finishing my engine install past my target date.


On the earlier topic, it looks like ZZP says it'll be fine after all, but here's another vid of when a clutch explodes. Fast forward to 2:30.

I got the very last one before the back order I think.

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So, I heard people rev and lunch from 2nd gear?

I tried that with the stock clutch today.
It didn't seem to happy. Smelled a little smokey, and didnt' get may anywhere to quick...

Never done it before. I always go through first, but figured since I'm replacing the clutch why not give it a shot.

My current unfinished tune has me limited to 4000 rpm on lunch control, which seems low to me.

Thoughts? Advice?
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Launching in 2nd is a bad idea lol. I think you confused doing a burnout in the water box at the track in 2nd cause lots of people do that.
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Originally Posted by donkeyballs
Launching in 2nd is a bad idea lol. I think you confused doing a burnout in the water box at the track in 2nd cause lots of people do that.
So, what could I have damaged?
Seemed like a bad idea, but I did it anyway.

So doing a burn out in second in the what now?
Don't know, could have sworn I seen some one write they always launched from second.

Didn't sound like a good idea though.
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Like donkey said, nutty.
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SO what damage could I have done?

What is a waterbox and why would you be able to do that in second.

I don't live near any racetracks, so I'm clueless to track terms.

Obviously not doing that again, but just wondering what I could have damaged.

I smelled smoke when I did it. Know that couldn't have been good.

No issues ... yet.
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You smoked your clutch, probably didn't break anything. The waterbox lets the tires spin easier so you don't burn the clutch like you did.

I feel bad for your poor car... First lambo doors and now this. You are lucky that CPS stands for child protective services and not car protective services....
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Originally Posted by nutty21
So, what could I have damaged?
Seemed like a bad idea, but I did it anyway.

So doing a burn out in second in the what now?
Don't know, could have sworn I seen some one write they always launched from second.

Didn't sound like a good idea though.
At the track they spray water down and a lot of people will do the burnout in 2nd to heat the tire up more.
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Originally Posted by sponge14
You smoked your clutch, probably didn't break anything. The waterbox lets the tires spin easier so you don't burn the clutch like you did.

I feel bad for your poor car... First lambo doors and now this. You are lucky that CPS stands for child protective services and not car protective services....
That's what I figured. Oh well, new clutch monday anyway, so no biggy.

Why I figured it'd be a good time to try it.

Thinking if I was reving higher then 4000 it would have helped.

Was wet out.


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