09CobaltSS1

no not screen door material.. he's most likely refering to an air strainer type of a screen

DillySS

Show me where to get it and I'll test the **** out of it. I have no problem moding a intake. I just need to get one first.

So I need:

1) Intake - Dejon or Injen to test
2) Silicone Coupler - Vibrant DUH!!
3) Two T-bolt Clamps - Ha! What brands are any good?
4) Air Screen - Need suggestion

northvibe

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ya im so f'ing confused as to why no company has used an air straightener on a intake yet. ******* boggles my mind. Thats part of how it was fixed for the 2.3L mzr.

DillySS

Woo Hoo!

10.99
http://tinyurl.com/yzwesoe

Stamina

That wire mesh may work okay.

Here's one built into a MAF used on Vette applications:


http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/Air-I...5f11988dd56d17



Here's another idea... the one used for the MS3: http://www.kstech.biz/servlet/the-14...ghtener/Detail



$11.50

It says it fits 2.75" tubing.

tom.g

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Agreed

Term first of all great write up. Second of all what do you say you and me write up a tuning thread, I did DP's you did Intakes now with a Tune section we could potentially create a thread called "All You Need to Know About Modding Your SS/TC". Obviously you would be the expert on tuning I would more or less put stuff together and help

A thread that compares the cost, power gains, install difficulty, warranty issues (ease of hiding tune), popped pistons tally, basic principle of how each tune works (canned vs custom) and driveability... of the big tunes out there (PPC, Superchips, GMS1, HP, Trifecta, ZZP).

Let me know what you think, if your interested we can get started whenever.

Just a thought

Terminator2

Sounds like a cool idea. I have lots of info to contribute.

wantedSS/TC

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there already is one from BYT. It's in depth and detailed pretty well. It's a good starting point for a lot of novice tuners.

Terminator2

The honeycomb one looks like it would work the best. The factory MAF has a channel like the second picture to help, well channel, the air over the sensor itself, but it is not very effective at straightning turbulant air. That is why the K&N drop ins skew the sensor 5-12% even though the stock airbox and MAF location are still being used. Honeycomb straightners flow very well so there would be no loss in performance. In fact, it would be better because the airflow over the sensor would be much more consistant which would result in much better throttle response.

Correction factors make a 5% difference on there own. too Did your car make 253ish whp on that dynojet stock? My car made 253 whp 247 wrtq stock STD 242 whp 237 wrtq SAE stock. The 345 whp 375 wrtq was STD corrected 333 whp 360 wtrq SAE. Here is the 345 whp dyno sheet.



Ignore the A/F. Leaded race gas tainted sniffer LOL. Scanner never showed richer than 0.844 lambda This was at 21-22 psi 0.86 lambda and 15* of timing. Dejon SRI, DP, CPs, CB, IC. 3rd gear pulls. Never used 4th for any of my runs.

Iam Broke

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But it's on the HPT forum, right?

Terminator2

Yep.

tom.g

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Not a thread on how to tune, just a thread comparing all of the tunes out there and basically the pro's and con's of each, except with a lot of detail. There is a new GMS1, Trifecta or HP thread poping up everyday asking the same questions.

BYT*SS*TURBO

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It's on here in the Tuning section.

Terminator2

Did you see one of the dyno graps you had asked for in my post above? That was 0.86 lambda and 15* of timing.

BYT*SS*TURBO

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That's your old one that even in your thread says tuned by you and someone else, and it's shy about 20whp of your claims...Not to mention how amazing that whp number is with .86 lambda and only 15* timing..
Ill bet it's that HAPPY HAPPY dyno http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...XMX78p22mGod5g

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...30&postcount=6




https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/tuning-131/lnf-tuning-basics-w-hptuners-183251/
Thats the tuning guide.

importkiller

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I was working on my buddies Saab 9-3 turbo yesterday and he had a honeycomb style straightener just prior to his MAF, the diameter is the same as the start of our intake elbow. I think a Saab straightener could be rigged in place...

Stamina

Maybe we could grab the part number for that then and start looking into it.

Nice catch.

northvibe

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I concur with the honey comb, one shop used it on the ms3 with great results.

here is what the CPE and cobb look like, this is the cpe sri:


Also AEM who made the MAzdaspeed 3 intake, sells a insert like stamina posted, that just drops into the intake tube infront of the maf.

Terminator2

That would be ideal. Hopefully it is about the right diameter. It could be made to fit though. unless it is too small.

efactor

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I like the honeycomb airflow straightener the best idea compare to the AEM version for the mazdaspeed. Just don't know if the part itself will fix all the problems that doesn't require a tune for an aftermarket CAI.

BYT*SS*TURBO

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Most likely not, but tuning it will be better and the readings will be more accurate.

Terminator2

It will make tuning easier and will also allow the car to runs a ton better even without tuning because the fuel trims will be more consistant so the A/F will not be bouncing around as much.

Stamina

It just occured to me that some friends of mine got their hands on a newer copy of Alldata, including the TCs and such. I'll see if they could look up the part for the 9-3.

BYT*SS*TURBO

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wantedSS/TC

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probably the first time in 4 months that css has had useful information besides bench racing and bickering.