mi6_

Just a quick survey here. How many of you will be ordering either stage 1 or 2 from GM, or will be ordering another aftermarket brand, or will simply just leave their cars stock. I am just curious to see how many people will go for these or something else.

This is the Candian retail on the kits.

17801947 Stage I (injectors, re-flash) $802.75
17803229 Stage II (injectors, re-flash, pulley) $1264.75
17803230 upgrades Stage I to stage II (pulley) $499.75



Stage I one uses an ECU re-flash and new injectors to add 31 HP, and 5 lb-ft of torque. It offers a 0.3 sec quarter mile improvement.

Stage II includes an ECU re-flash, new injectors (same as stage I), and a smaller 3" pulley. This gives another 5 HP, and 13 lb-ft of torque. Overall it improves your 0-60MPH time by 0.5 seconds, and your quarter mile time by 0.7 seconds.

theTITESTride

srry, quick ?....im new, n ppl are telling me to post a question there is a post thread button...but i seriously can't see it...like ware about is it or wat is next to it...cuz i hav major questions...ok thanks a lot, and sorry

NGalaxyTimmyo

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almost a full second off? I think I'll be getting it. Along with some other things...


Edit:Wait, hmm, I wonder. I have a 2.9 inch pulley coming in. I wonder if I can just get Stage 1 and buy the belt. Does anyone know yet if the stage one flash is different then stage 2?

victory_red_SS

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one more time

go to the forum button on the home page
click on that button
then choose where you want to post a question
click on that forum
near top left side of new page it will say New Thread
click on that button
Ok?????????

victory_red_SS

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Now back to regular programming

I already called the dealer today and said "order me Stage 2"

mi6_

Not sure yet whether I am going to get them. I was hoping that they would be cheaper (i.e. $800 for stage II). Stage I seems to be a good value for the power gains. The acceleration improvement from stage II suggests that there is a much wider torque curve with the smaller pulley, also making that stage an attractive upgrade.

If I do it, I will go all out for stage II. Keep the warranty, and max out the performance potential. I'll have to see what it will cost for Stage II with install, then I will decide. I've been thinking about it for the last few days and it is acutally not a bad deal in the end, even if it is like $1400 with install. If the LSJ is staying in the car next year, I think I will be less tempted to order these (there will be plenty of stock SS/SC rolling around in Canada, and we are faster than the Civic Si, Mini Cooper S, and almost as quick as the Neon SRT-4). If the 2.0L Turbo does make it into the car, I may order the staged kit if I haven't by then, or think about possibly trading my car in for a new Turbo Cobalt (Turbalt ). Don't see the 2.0L turbo in the car though. Edmunds is smoking too much dope for reporting that it is being considered for the re-badge job that will be the G4/G5.

I am also going to try and find out how bad the fuel economy will be. Gas is pretty expensive right now, and having poor fuel economy is going to cost me a lot too. The stock LSJ seems to get good mileage if you drive it in a pedestrian manner. The cops in the city are also like the Gestapo, lots of radar traps and photo radar, so stage II would only help me get busted.

mi6_

It is the same. Stage II includes all the parts in stage I (injectors & the same re-flash). The ECU doesn't need to be reflashed for a smaller pulley that gives more boost.

Remember that you will be full warranty if you just go Stage II! That is a pretty attractive sale pitch, even if it is more than stage I and an aftermarket pulley.

NGalaxyTimmyo

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Then I guess I'll be getting just stage 1 then

Cobalt_Supercharged

I'm gonna wait and see how much gas it gobbles first. (plus I won't have the money probably til summer) I do 95% in-town driving so I have to see what happens. Hopefully Stage 1 will fix the CEL with a CAI, then I can do that too! I love the sound of the S/C!

ajent

Stage I, then I to II.

mi6_

Ya, I am there right with you. I think I am going to sit on it for a while. The car is pretty fast already, and has decent fuel economy. I can't really use the extra power on the street, so I wonder if I should order any of them. Sure it will go faster, but I am not racing, so it will just eat up gas. I'll probably wan't the GMPP exhaust too if I get stage II! I don't really want to spend money on that because I doubt it does much compared to the stock exhaust.

Anyhow, It has been snowing all week, so I am deep into winter here! The less power the car has now, the better! I'll decide here when spring comes and the Pirellis get put back on.

I feel like I may be the only person on here staying stock for now!

memphisr24

Stage 1 here with 2.8" pulley and a 3" idler pulley to go along with my intake and exhaust. Then i'm done with the car for go fast parts.

Next step after that: Lowering Springs, Anti Roll Kit from Eibach, Strut bar, Stickier tires

GSoccer24

intense stage 3

distillion

stage 2, gmpp, conmtrol arm bushings and maybe and intake and motor mount and im done and im just gonna enjoy my quick lil street SS

GSoccer24

$1101 USD for stage 2? no way...

BLKSS

I just paid 1264 for mine at my dealership. so about 1000 american.

underwoodparts

i work at a chevrolet dealership and the stage 1 and 2 kits arent avaliable yet, i have been trying to get them for my car since i saw them at the sema show in november, but they are still listed as a future part

bruff1977

I wanna know how you already ordered it in Canada!! What gives?? Have you set up an install date??

underwoodparts

I dont know what other dealers are quating for a price, but list price on stage 1 kit(17801947) is $500, i will sell it for $375 plus shipping when i can get it, and the stage II(17803229) lists for $750, i will sell it for $555 plus shipping, if any body is interested call me at 1-800-456-4181, and ask for rob in parts, or email me at boyracerss@yahoo.com, we accept all credit cards, and i wont take any orders till i can actually get the kits

mi6_

What is up with the GMPP exhaust? I hear it is a 2.25" pipe. The 2.4L from what I gather has this stock, and the 2.0L runs a 2.5". Someone also said that the Grand-Am Cup guys ran 3" last year, but changed to a 2.5" on their cars this year. So that makes it soud like the stock 2.5" is the best for the 2.0L already!

Am I right, or does someone else have an explanation for this. I don't want to pay $1000 for a pipe that isn't going to give any power.

J_Rod

Almost 1300 For The Stage Two That Produces Less Than Intense Stage 3 For 530.....
Fu?k Gm. They Are Crazy. I AM Sooo Happy I Ordered My Intense

BLKSS

Im happy i dont have to install it LOL oh and it wont void my 3 year warantee wich is just a small bonus.

BLKSS

No they will call me when its in. They did make me pay up front thought. I will take pics and elaborate on the installation prices when the job is done.

Nathanc

J Rod. You still don't have CODE!!! Pullies are cheap. The millions GM spent on programing is for a reason.

hatrickstu

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so im a little confused, are the kits out now?