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Old 08-12-2014, 06:33 PM
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iat 2 temps toooo high...

Okay well I have tried and tried bt I cant seem to get my iat2 temps down. I have ottp front mount, dual pass, option b, new intercooler pump, phenolic spacer and ported blower. I even put some water wetter to try to lower the temps bt didnt work. Why cant I seem to ger my temps down??!. please any advice or suggestions would be appreciated!

That pic is of my car at idle after driving for say about 15 minutes..

Driving Iat2 temps are just 5 to 10 degrees lower than idle.

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Water wetter with coolant won't help. Trick is water wetter and distilled water. Check to see if maybe the coolant lines are clogged. And if you're running any form if coolant don't mix colors. Mixing colors will clog the lines
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What is to high? Can you feel the pump working? Also verify there are no bubbles or kinks
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Thats what im running actually just water and water wetter since its hot as hell down here. Also I can feel the pump working its not even 1 year old. The current in the hoses feels strong and I can see fluid coming out on top through the hose of the option b tank.
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When did this start happening? Recent changes? As someone pointed out make sure there is no air in your system. i know because I had all the cooling upgrades you have and was seeing similar issues.

I turned out one I had air in the system. which eventually cleared. The system is every inefficient with ANY air in it
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Originally Posted by jvirginillo
When did this start happening? Recent changes? As someone pointed out make sure there is no air in your system. i know because I had all the cooling upgrades you have and was seeing similar issues.

I turned out one I had air in the system. which eventually cleared. The system is every inefficient with ANY air in it
How did you end up removing all the air from the system??

I used to have a stock blower on and would still see about 30 degree difference in iat and iat2 temps while cruising with listed mods. After the blower swap to the ported one temps rose? Idk how thats even possible tho? I swapped to a ported blower in hopes of decreasing temps a little.
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I know when i put in my option b it was discovered the bleeder fitting that goes from the HE to the tank wasn't drilled all the way through.
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You may have air in the system. Highest my iat2 get with a TVS 2.9 with dual pass/stage III H/E is 135-140 sitting in traffic and I'm down her in SW Florida.
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Thanks guys I will check bleeder fitting tomorrow morning. Hopefully I can find the problem
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on my car I filled the Option B tank right to the top and plugged the over flow.

I did a few hard runs and check and topped up. I kept doing this a few times over a week until all the air worked its way out. Each time I had to top up I noticed the system was working more efficiently.
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You either have air trapped in the lines, or your pump is on its way out.
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1 the phenolic spacer is junk get rid of it
2 water wetter is designed to work will all coolants and you don't need to use the whole bottle a few ounces is plenty
3 do not plug the bleed line to the option b
4 to get the option b working after install leave all lines hooked up and elevate the tank with the lines pointing down that will get the bleed process started
5 you could have a weak pump
6 most of the time high temps are because there is air in the system
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You also need to have the restricor installed in the option b line
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
1 the phenolic spacer is junk get rid of it 2 water wetter is designed to work will all coolants and you don't need to use the whole bottle a few ounces is plenty 3 do not plug the bleed line to the option b 4 to get the option b working after install leave all lines hooked up and elevate the tank with the lines pointing down that will get the bleed process started 5 you could have a weak pump 6 most of the time high temps are because there is air in the system
1. Phenolic spacer is not junk. It works extremely well
2. Water wetter is designed to work with all coolants but it works best with distilled water
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Originally Posted by BLKbeauty05
1. Phenolic spacer is not junk. It works extremely well
2. Water wetter is designed to work with all coolants but it works best with distilled water
actually.... yeah it is. sorry.

water wetter does nothing for the coolant in our intercooler system. To see any benefits, you would need to run straight water with water wetter like mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Staged07SS
actually.... yeah it is. sorry.
Proof?

Just curious as I was going to get one for the LNF
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Originally Posted by leemanfor
Proof?

Just curious as I was going to get one for the LNF
Read the threads.... your proof is on this site.

They usually end up causing an air leak, because they dont allow the intake mani gasket to seal properly. I have no idea how well it works or doesnt on an LNF. I'm speaking about the LSJ.

For the minute difference in IAT2's it may help with, they are not worth the hassel on our cars.
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Anyone have a picture of the air bleed restrictor?
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Originally Posted by BlackSSstg2
Anyone have a picture of the air bleed restrictor?
Check CED's website.

Go to the GMR dual pass and download the install instructions.

A picture of the restrictor can be found there.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/Inte...10457C694.aspx

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Originally Posted by leemanfor
Proof? Just curious as I was going to get one for the LNF
I ran the tests on the sc and there is no measurable difference as the entire engine assembly will normalize to a temp.. The installation and the sc positioning is problematical. The phenolic can leak. The LNF applies the same it think it's a bunch of kook aid ; the science of cooling does not support the application
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Originally Posted by Powell Race Parts
I ran the tests on the sc and there is no measurable difference as the entire engine assembly will normalize to a temp.. The installation and the sc positioning is problematical. The phenolic can leak. The LNF applies the same it think it's a bunch of kook aid ; the science of cooling does not support the application
I see about 5-6degrees cooler IAT2s with just the IM spacer on mine (LNF) the install for a LNF wasnt a problem. Sox-fan ran the IM and TB with good results
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Originally Posted by ECaulk
I see about 5-6degrees cooler IAT2s with just the IM spacer on mine (LNF) the install for a LNF wasnt a problem. Sox-fan ran the IM and TB with good results
That's all fine and dandy, but we are discussing the LSJ.
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Awesome.
I will pick up what I need for mine then.
I was experimenting with just using a washer style restrictor but the hose didn't hold it well and putting it between the fitting and the exchanger wasn't holding it flat.
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What pulley are you running? I don't see that mentioned.
Actually, regardless of pulley the IAT2 shouldn't be that high under cruising speeds.
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What I found and anyone can jump in to correct me.

When there was air in the system, Recovery after a pull was very slow and almost never came back to what seemed normal on a moderately hot day.

In my case I was on 2.8. Once i managed to get all the air out, the recovery was drastically better and would return to say 20 to 30 degrees from incoming air temp.

Even a mild pull where you see AIT2 rise should recover fairly quickly if the air is out of the system.

Al the above assumes AIR in the system is your issue.

As has been said a week pump or restriction (kinked hose) will also reduce the system efficiency I'm sure.


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