2.0L LSJ Performance Tech 205hp Supercharged SS tuner version. 200 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 12-16-2013, 06:58 PM
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updated with some picks
Old 12-16-2013, 09:26 PM
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Yes in a perfect world the air to water is best. But our air to water setup sucks. So I got rid of it
the stock setup works just fine and is far from sucking but your air to air setup is cool you just never showed it worked you could have done that with hpt logs and that is why most said what they said

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Because heat soak. 3 back to back pulls on a hot day with IAT2'S rising only a few degrees is enough reason for me.
the stock setup dose not heat soak until logs are posted showing how well the air to air works all your claims of how awesome it is is null and void

you would also be better of and money saved by doing a gen3 2.4 then doing the darton sleeves

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Its nice that your system does not heat soak. But mine did. So I fixed my problem.
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the stock system dose not heat soak
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You have to differentiate between the technical definition of heat soak and the generalized accepted meaning.
No, by technical definition, the stock ic does not achieve heat soak. But it can sure come close at times.
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Originally Posted by mrbelvedere
the stock system dose not heat soak
John, explain to them, because this will go back and forth forever.

I know the stock system does not heat soak, but explain, so everyone will better understand.


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Heat soak occurs when a component reaches temperature equilibrium with the gasses flowing through it.

the only time the system heat soaks is when the pump is not running same for the engine

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You have to differentiate between the technical definition of heat soak and the generalized accepted meaning.
No, by technical definition, the stock ic does not achieve heat soak. But it can sure come close at times.
they can generalize all they want they are still wrong

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Old 12-17-2013, 11:19 AM
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Curious, then what would you call it when the component is at a much higher temperature than when it started out, but not at an equilibrium with the gasses flowing through it, but still enough to create diminishing returns at a rate somewhat linear to the amount of use it is seeing over a given amount of time? Just call it somewhere in between I guess.
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"Approaching heat soak"

Idk. That seems te most reasonable.
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if you don't like the definition then become a scientist get published and change the definition lol
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I'm just saying that the entire automotive performance community has adopted heat soak to mean its to the point it's not working very well.

I'd love to see john vs the world but I don't think it would pan out so well
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Originally Posted by armcclure
I'd love to see john vs the world but I don't think it would pan out so well
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Lol I understand what you mean John, but like Alan said it is just kind of the term that has been adopted for what most of us experience. Thats why I said what I did :P
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Originally Posted by armcclure
I'm just saying that the entire automotive performance community has adopted heat soak to mean its to the point it's not working very well.

I'd love to see john vs the world but I don't think it would pan out so well
it wouldn't pan out for the world

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Lol I understand what you mean John, but like Alan said it is just kind of the term that has been adopted for what most of us experience. Thats why I said what I did :P
I was busting your shops pudden
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finally getting this car out from behind the shop?! its become a staple back there lol, waiting for it to grow roots
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So.... My car doesn't heat soak like pretty much everyone else's... Hahaha

When it leaves the shop people will think he moved
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Ok, guys enough with the IAT2 talk and heat soak....

Time to get back on topic with the build thread.
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I was just playing around with the last post. But as of now we are waiting for the block to get back from the machine shop. So prob won't get real pictures till after Christmas
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:37 PM
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got the exact cam specs.

The cams are a blower grind. 252/262 duration with .423/.436 lift with a 113 LSA perfect setup for a blower car

And added a couple pics
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I may be wrong but aren't those the same specs as the zzp stage 3 cams?
Old 12-23-2013, 05:02 PM
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Iirc they are close atleast


Freakta i totally missed your thread. neat build! Lsj ftmfwin!!
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Zzp's are all rated in mm. Difficult to compare. And impossible without knowing the exact lobe profile.
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Originally Posted by freakta
got the exact cam specs.

The cams are a blower grind. 252/262 duration with .423/.436 lift with a 113 LSA perfect setup for a blower car

And added a couple pics
I would not say that there are bigger cams out there for the lsj
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Originally Posted by armcclure
Zzp's are all rated in mm. Difficult to compare. And impossible without knowing the exact lobe profile.
I would say they are zzp but im pretty sure they are using the same lobe for the n/a stuff


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