cchalo

Well Thursday I saw the chance to try one of these intake optiosn for myself and not spend alot of money.

http://www.amazon.com/K-69-4516TS-Ty.../dp/B000E5WD42

$90 shipped or $95 w/trial "prime" account and "saturday" shipping. It arrived late Friday. The intake I recieved is the powdercoated silver version

http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=69-4516TS

If you check the install directions it's shaped like the diagram in it, not like the color pics.

It was also a massive pain in the ass to install. Nothing fit right if somethign else was lined up properly and finally after screwign with it for an hour or so yesterday and 2 hrs or so today I found that if you shove the filter on an extra inch or so you can JUST get it twisted around to mount and still get the plastic back in place.

While not a fan of the high pitched whine these cars make with a new intake (I'm used to and love the sounds of 350s/454s), the extra low rpm boost does seem to make a little difference.

I guess what I like best is the "clean" look. Not alot of non matching colors and "bling"

I've driven ~80 miles so far with it in city/highway/to the floor driving styles so far no CEL so overall I'm happy.

JeromesCobalt23

Hey i just bought my 06 cobalt ss/sc yesterday, and wanted to know whats the best intake to get for the money.....?

Edubs

Everyone has their own opinion, but I would recommend doing your own research. This thread has lots of valid points and opinions in here. When all is said and done, there are different intakes for different set-ups. If you're not looking to go big, and are not looking for best CFM, then just do an airbox mod. Cheapest intake out there and works almost as well. It's all about flow:

Stock intake = Least flow
Airbox mod = Second least flow
AEM = Average because it uses top half of stock intake
Full 2.5" intake = Second most flow
Full 3" intake = Most flow

lewisb13

someone should search through all the dyno threads and put stock HP gains for each one

Edubs

Not all of the intakes have been tested for gain over stock. Most people that modify their car with an intake already have something else done, get more than one thing at once, or don't want to pony up the cash just to see how much power the intake makes.

I'll save you the trouble, all intakes are going to make around the same amount just slapped on. The larger the intake (up to 3" cause TB=3"), the greater the CFM. More flow = more power if the vehicle is tuned for it.

JeromesCobalt23

Well im thinking about getting the Stage 2 put on from the dealer. So i just wanted to know which one would be better. I was thinking about the Fujita or the Injen. Or if you guys think they are too over priced for the money then just let me know. Dont want to get off the topic... but if you guys do have the stage 2. How much did it cost?

Laser_SS

I just bought an Injen CAI. How big of chance do I have of scooping up water next time it rains if I don't get a hydro shield or a prefilter?

I work at a Chevy dealer and I paid just over $600 for the stage 1 and stage 2 parts together.

firemanfrank

Chances of hydrolocking with a CAI is small. The filter element must be immersed.

But the fact is this: It CAN happen.

Your chances are NOT zero.

I installed one on my '06 Focus ST and had regretted put it on. Made me too nervous when driving after heavy rainstorms.

I'll never put a CAI on a car ever again. When I ran it at the track, it only took a 1/10 of a sec. off my 1/4 mile time.

Totally NOT worth the chance of blowing an engine ... even if it's only a remote chance.

Edubs

Stop being such a wuss Frank! I would strongly encourage making your intake into a short air intake (SAI) if you live somewhere that has terrential rain falls every week and a terrible drainage system. If you don't live where I described, you'd be like every other tuner that uses a CAI successfully all year long.

TurboTechRacing

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If you are worried about damp water getting on your filter, we keep in stock the Injen Hydro sheilds which fir on the Injen intakes, which we also keep in stock. Many many choose this setup.

firemanfrank

Heh dubs, well, there are people out there who can tell you horror stories about needing new engines from such a mod.

It's happened - that's a fact man. And for what bro, a 1/10 of a second in the 1/4?

The chances of me hydrolocking my car with the stock intake are ZERO.

I like those odds ...

Edubs

What are the chances of you breaking your car at the track? Zero? I think not! Don't use this stats crap w/ me! You've been to the track, and you're going back. Odds are you'll eventually break the car, how do you like those odds?

firemanfrank

Heh dubs,

If I break my car at the track, two things remain that separate it from hydrolocking my car:

1) I won't experience a blown engine simply from racing a completely stock vehicle
2) Even if I did, my vehicle will still be warrantied

I've already proven the above to be the case when that happened to me on a previous new car that I owned. A timing belt slipped on a car that had only 2,000 miles on it and it destroyed the engine (interference engine).

But I had a new engine installed by the dealer at absolutely no cost to me whatsoever.

Try that with a hydrolocked engine with an after market CAI in place ... your screwed man.

Plan on paying $5,000-$6,000 out of pocket for a new engine.

Calm down man ...

Edubs

Calm down? When wasn't I calm? The odds of breaking a car at the track are much higher than the odds of hydrolocking the engine. You keep your odds, and the guy with the CAI will keep edging you out by a fender at the track every pass. I don't really care if anyone gets an intake, but c'mon, any modification has potentially disasterious consequences. Either your dealership was really cool, or they didn't know you had the car on the track. If they were a typical dealer, they wouldn't have covered you under warranty had they have known...

firemanfrank

Good grief, this can go on forever.

point/counterpoint ...
point/counterpoint ...

I'm done with this topic.

Lata ...

Edubs

But this is so much fun Frank! C'mon, you gotta loosen up a little bit. Where were you Wednesday? You going this coming Wednesday? Weather should be nice...I think...

JeromesCobalt23

is an injen a really good intake to get if i want to get a stage 2 in a month or soo...

wombat

I got the injen, and I love it...it's EXTREMELY easy to install, and it sounds great.

chris88z24

The only way you are going to hydrolock it is if the end of the intake is fully submerged in water.. try submerging the stock intake in a pond and see what happens. Just don't drive your car underwater and you won't have any problems.

JeromesCobalt23

Did you have trouble with the cel when you put it on? Or did everything work out perfect?

*GateCrasheR*

I just order and recieved the fujita cai from thmotorsports and its an awesome looking and sounding intake and the power gain is great, i would say atleast 10hp, but alas its doesnt fit for sh*t. The 2007 brakeline hub is taller then the 05's so the nomex/silicon coupler is sitting on the lines pretty hard and im sure it will wear thew in no time if i dont figure somthing out. just a heads up and a rant. thmoto did great im sure i'll buy somthing from them again. and i say to everyone not to hesitate about ordering anything you want or need from these guys.

Edubs

That's where intakes like the K&N and RD Fabs really shine. They fit perfect. RD Fabs is the only 3" Stainless Steel intake that doesn't rub, at the moment, but I know Rebel is releasing theirs soon...

JeromesCobalt23

So you were having problesm with the Fujita? It didnt fit properly?

Edubs

That's not a surprise. The Fujita and JBP intakes do not fit properly. Only the RD Fabs and Rebel intakes fit and are one-piece 3" tubing...

JeromesCobalt23

Well how is the injens? Would i be better of getting that?