victory_red_SS

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Looking forward to seeing how well they like 26lbs of boost.



I have bought a Holley ls1 EFI mid ram intake manifold along with a 92mm SLP Throttle body.


The significant thing about this choice is that l am moving forward with having the engine built.

Following the advice of many i will run the parts I have and see where it takes me. I'm torn between doing this and wanting to have what I was told that I was paying for. Part of me thinks that coming up short of expectations (after all these years) is to accept failure.

06blackg85ss

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I hear ya there man. but you have the makings of a bad ass damn setup already.
just for motivation, here;s my 6 yr project





haven't even touched it since last summer. but once it gets warm out and the cobalt is finally done shortly. I'll get back to putting it back together.

victory_red_SS

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Sweet setup there Paul, I look forward to more updates as you move forward on your project.


I know you and others are right about putting together and running what I already have and I'm getting more convinced as I put together a plan to finish. Thanks for the motivation.

victory_red_SS

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I have recently received a new intake manifold paired with a 102mm throttle body. The intake is for use with the cathedral port heads I have. I have chosen to use the parts that I have with the exception of connecting rods. I have a meeting on Tuesday morning with Richmond Engines and we will finalize the list of parts needed to get this engine built and running. This plan is for the engine to be done sooner than later.

I have lots of work to do and knowing that a built and running engine are closer than ever makes getting that work done priority # 1. Richmond engines has an engine dyno and the engine will be ran/tested before it comes home. All of the costs in building the engine will dictate whether I will be able to buy the twin turbo setup at the same time.

To dater I have managed to squirrel away $16,000. to spend on this last kick of the can race car project. Here is hoping that I finally get treated right by honest people/companies.

06blackg85ss

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nice man, looking forward to some more progress here. I think it's about time your due an honest person working on your motor

victory_red_SS

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That sure is a novel idea isn't it.

Ok guys, what am I missing in this twin turbo kit for sale on ebay? Something doesn't add up...

CXR twin turbo kit

Sharkey

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cx racing is ebay garbage. off brand parts.

i just built a twin turbo setup for an iroc camaro with a 428 lsx. we used a pair of borg warner s363 turbos and precision 46mm wastegates. we did actually start with a set of universal ls turbo headers from ebay, ive done it before and never had issues. at a guess, turbos are around $1800 each, wastgates are about $400 each, im sure there is $1500-$2k in stainless tubing and elbows, v-bands, flanges, etc. now add in labor. its not cheap to do a custom twin turbo setup.


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victory_red_SS

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That says it all, thanks. Nice setup in that Camaro and no room to spare either.

Sharkey

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there isnt nearly as much room in a 3rd gen f body as there looks. ill have to dig up pics of the downpipes, did dual 3 into single 4 on the passenger side of the engine.

for your setup id consider a single turbo.

victory_red_SS

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I have been thinking that very thought. I have a bit of a steep learning curve to figure out which turbo and housings to buy. Here is one that I am reading up on,

1300HP turbo

Slowbalt2000

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$2600??

I would look into borg warner turbos if i were you. Really nice stuff for an awesome price

Sharkey

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yea id also lean towards a borg warner, they are one of the toughest turbos out there as far as reliability.

give BD turbo a call (they are part of BD diesel). they are local (abbotsford) and thats where we get all our turbo stuff from. talk to bruce, he knows his stuff, he should be able to get you a turbo spec-ed out

double clutch

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This makes me want to twin turbo my gta. Awesome work

victory_red_SS

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I looked at those and the big turbos from Borg are coming in at close to $2600. too

I will talk to him a bit farther down the line as the plan has hit another bump/hiccup but then what's new?

UPDATE
I loaded up all the parts today and dropped them off at Richmond Racing Engines. Once the parts were there we discovered a couple of things. The parts I was given were not the parts that I originally bought through Resnick.

The pictures I have from back then show a 4.125 stroke SCAT crankshaft and 4.125 bore size pistons. The parts now in my possession are a 4" stroke crank and 4" bore size piston. At this point we are using mostly what I already have with a couple of exceptions. We are likely going to beef up the wrist pins for the Mahle pistons. The LSX block still needs some machining done while Resnick had told me it was ready to go. Again this isn't the end of the world.

At Richmond Engines they measured the combustion chamber and a piston for volume and the combustion chamber measured 74cc and the piston measured 28cc. Not bad news there. Next they are going to flow test the heads to see how much air they will move.

Considering everything, the choice was made to build the engine and get it all done with the goal of adding a power adder. They have an engine dyno so we can run the engine and see where we are at, with an eye to where I want to be in the end.

I have waited this long and only come this far so it's time to do what I can as I squirrel away some more $$. I have lots of things to do on the car itself and knowing a running engine is close at hand gives me motivation to get my part done. The wife hasn't asked yet why I am spending so much time sorting out my garage and my shop. Hopefully she will be happy just to see less stuff laying around.

Deej

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It's time to use the parts you have and settle on a 600 hp powerplant for the first season using the excuse "getting the chassis set up before moving on to the real engine"

I'm happy to see it back on track Rod. You're finally at the point you're not waiting on a deadbeat to make progress.

victory_red_SS

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Hi Deej, how is the house doing?

I am in fact at that stage of this project. We will buy what I need to assemble this engine and set it all up as naturally aspirated and see where we get to. While it will not be where I was supposed to get to it will still be a long way from where I started.

I will be down at Richmond Racing Engines of Friday and we are going to decide which camshaft we are going to use. There are several other parts being ordered and we are looking to get the rotating assembly balanced within the next 2-3 weeks. I'm not pushing to get this done simply because its race season and the guys who are racing take priority. Having said that I do look forward to when I can finally post up a video of my engine running and being put through the paces on Richmond's engine dyno.

Deej

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It's not much different than when I started. I was sick for a long time. Undiagnosed diabetic. Missed a lot of work, spent a lot of money foolishly, bought a new motorcycle and rode it coast to coast and back.
The workshop and garage are weatherproof and secure now. I'll finish replacing the roof on the house before fall.
Next though is to gut the spare bedroom to get a Roomate in for the income I need.

07MetallicSC

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i need your job. you managed to squirel away 16k.... lol you make it sound easy haha. need an assistant? I can make a mean grilled cheese and tasty ramen noodle....

Snail_SS

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Grilled cheese and Ramen noodles sure sounds good about now lol

victory_red_SS

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While it may read as 'squirreled away' it wasn't totally easy and it includes some 'creative book keeping' which lengthens the term of some of this projects outstanding debt.
Having said that perhaps I should start eating ramen noodles to save on my food budget.

07MetallicSC

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lol.

06blackg85ss

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I'd go large single, start with a T6 s48x for now, good reliable turbo's that won't kill the pockets, can get a real good one for about 1200-1500$
twin wastgates (one on each crossover pipe) should control the boost real well, or one large one right on the turbine housing

and don't knock the china stuff, not a bad start on a budget, the newer turbo's seem to hold up well and we'll see how my china 88 does eventually will be switching to a single 106mm once I put a better motor in the car

06blackg85ss

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oh btw had the cobalt at the track 2 weeks ago, and it's still in one piece lol

victory_red_SS

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I don't know how I missed this post Paul. How were the rest of your trips to the track? Did you get that China turbo installed and if so how did it hold up???


Small update

The engine builder recently built an engine that is very similar (parts wise) to my engine. My heads flow a bit better and my cam will be a bit more aggressive but other than that the block/pistons/rods/stroke are the same. That engine was on the engine dyno last week and it made 564 bhp NA. Not a bad number for a starting point. We are looking at finalizing some final parts so the engine gets built soon.

I am also half way, as far as saving goes, to buying the turbo kit. I am also going to sell the bigstuff3 and buy a Holley Dominator EFI ECU. Everything I have read about the Holley ECU makes this a no brainer.

06blackg85ss

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car has actually been holding up well, ran it at pocono a few weeks back and was trapping 147mph off nitrous (another roll event)
ta is finally out of the garage after a year of sitting and starting to finish it up...... hopefully lol

good to see some progress as always, and good decision with the holley, that's what I"m using in my trans am to control, well everything. it's awesome