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Old 05-28-2016, 11:26 AM
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It's from a suburban or something. Mid to late 90s Chevy trucks all use it.
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Fram FF648 and bend the brackets to fit it.
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Originally Posted by blueLNFftw
Fram FF648 and bend the brackets to fit it.

That's what a search gave me on here.
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^^^ You sir are correct. Nowhere had it. There's an AC delco which does the job as well that I ended up going with. Now if I could just get the fuel rail to stop leaking and the care to start, this would be great. I prime it, start it, it surges, then dies. Can't keep it running by giving it gas. Also smells pig rich.
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Any thoughts guys? Air getting into the fuel system through the leak in the return setup?

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maf connected? or primary o2? those 2 will usually cause that to happen.
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I know that the maf is. I've checked that one multiple times, as it didn't want to go into the pipe very well. Primary O2 on the other hand I'll have to recheck. This could be the culprit, as I mistakenly installed that after the wideband sensor and had one hell of a time getting the connector to make it that far. The wife works retail, so she's sleeping till 11 today (I hate having different schedules) so I'll get to it a bit lter in the day.
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You do have a turbo tune flashed onto the PCM right?
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I thought that the base would be the tune file from the supercharged settup, then tune for ve, and finally maf. Is that not the case?
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Originally Posted by WVU_SS
I thought that the base would be the tune file from the supercharged settup, then tune for ve, and finally maf. Is that not the case?
Should at least start and run on that as long as the injectors and fuel type is the same. Idle trims are gonna be off but pcm should still make it work. Dead rich is usually a primary o2 not reading.
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
Should at least start and run on that as long as the injectors and fuel type is the same. Idle trims are gonna be off but pcm should still make it work. Dead rich is usually a primary o2 not reading.
That's what I was thinking as well. Trims would be terrible throughout, but it should still run. From the sounds of it, I'd venture to say that you're right black. That connection will be the first on my list to check
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So just ran through it all and everything's hooked up correctly. I'm back to the leak at the regulator connection in the fuel line. I've loaded the MAF table up with fuel, and with giving it gas, it wants to run. So my theory is that at idle, the pump can't maintain fuel pressure, however forcing gas through keeps enough pressure in the rail to keep it running, albeit very unhappily. And for the life of me, I can't get the leak to stop lol. Any know the size of the o-ring that goes at the end of the rail?

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do you have a fuel pressure gauge on the rail?
You should.
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^^^ yessir I do. Right now rail pressure is 50#. Now that I looked at the spec, it's a bit high, so it'll be going down when I work on it again. I cleaned up most of the fuel leaks to get it to about a drip every 30 secs or so. Good enough to hold pressure with constant flow.

Played around with the tune a bit and increased demand by 30%. Got it to start and run on it's own, but damn it wasn't happy, still real lean. So I'll have to keep adding. Glad I turned it off after about 30 seconds. Have a pretty decent oil leak I've gotta track down. After that I may be in the clear.

Now I'm curious about this one, and I hope one of yall have a bit more info. Why do I need to command so much more fuel at idle (still e85) than I used to? I get that it's now blow through as opposed to suck through, but it should need the same amount of air to idle, should it not? Is it now more efficient that it's moving that much more air at startup?
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How much did the size of the maf tube change
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Originally Posted by Slowbalt2000
How much did the size of the maf tube change
It appears to be the same size. I was running the airbox mod originally, so it was a 3" pipe, however it had that terrible restriction in it. The new pipe starts at 2.5" and then tapers up to 3". I guess that the restriction really choked the blower settup down.
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^^^ yessir I do. Right now rail pressure is 50#. Now that I looked at the spec, it's a bit high, so it'll be going down when I work on it again. I cleaned up most of the fuel leaks to get it to about a drip every 30 secs or so. Good enough to hold pressure with constant flow.

Played around with the tune a bit and increased demand by 30%. Got it to start and run on it's own, but damn it wasn't happy, still real lean. So I'll have to keep adding. Glad I turned it off after about 30 seconds. Have a pretty decent oil leak I've gotta track down. After that I may be in the clear.

Now I'm curious about this one, and I hope one of yall have a bit more info. Why do I need to command so much more fuel at idle (still e85) than I used to? I get that it's now blow through as opposed to suck through, but it should need the same amount of air to idle, should it not? Is it now more efficient that it's moving that much more air at startup?
I have one of those gauges left still. It has all the fittings to run it from the test port.
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That's actually a real sweet gauge. I've just got the boring one that Josh sends with the return settup. It does the job. Got the last of the leaks taken care of with the fuel rail yesterday. On to figure out the oil leak tonight. I know it's coming from the oil feed tap in the block. I'm thinking the sealant I used on the threads is the issue. Gonna head to advance and see if a different sealant will solve the problem.
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I use the brush on permatex thread sealer.
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Is that stuff thicker? I used the permatex that I had to apply with my finger, and apparently got terrible results. ZZP recommends the GM grey sealant which is a silicone sealer, so I may be picking up a silicone based thread sealant.
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its pretty much like brush on ptfe tape
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Sooooooo. Not much to say about this.....
On a scale of 1 to physically assault a toddler can anyone guess my level of current rage???
Also, can anyone guess where the other half of this oil feed fitting is?!?!?!!? :cuss ing:

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I hate the brass oil fittings.

Good news is that the brass is softer than the block. I hammered a flat head into the fittings and undid it with a pair of vice grips.

I only buy stainless fittings now.
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I currently do as well. I'm not a happy camper right now.

My first thought is to try an extractor tool on it, since it's a decently soft metal, I'm hoping that it'll grab nice, and back right out. If that doesn't work, how'd you do the screwdriver trick? Just hammer 2 screwdrivers in opposite sides of the fitting, grab it with the vice grips in the middle and turn? I guess you could also go from the top down with the same approach. But any worries about screwing the threads up doing it that way?

I'm heading to Jegs tomorrow to grab a good stainless fitting.

But got it nice and snug yesterday. Went to take one last little turn to make sure it was in there good, and it started spinning much easier. I was originally afraid I stripped the threads. I guess this is the better alternate.


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