ZZP's Neutral Balance Shafts..
01-16-2010, 06:05 PM
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Well there is another false claim. SMG Motoring is building a sleeved GM race block with everything this week. Just because you post about the most doesn't mean your the only ones trying new things and building fast cars.
01-17-2010, 04:57 PM
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while ZZP isnt the only one developing race ecotecs, i think they have contributed the most to our engines..more so than SMG (and dont get me wrong, i love SMG). But ZZP makes a LOT of products, many of which are unique for this platform (though not in the car world).
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01-19-2010, 12:41 PM
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I did not mean to imply that no one is putting together ecotec motors, clearly they are. I just meant ZZP is doing things they are not and we're on the forefront of product development for this platform. In terms of building fast cars, the times people have run using our parts speak for themselves and I haven't seen anyone do anything close. Maybe I missed it??
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01-19-2010, 12:54 PM
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01-19-2010, 01:19 PM
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You cannot give a HP gain. You really need to read the product page and the article about balance shafts.
Asking how much power is a simple question with an extremely complex answer. It's like asking how much HP 5# of boost gives. Too many variables. Similarly the neutral shafts mainly give power because you can spin the motor to higher rpm.
But adding these solid shafts others are selling that weigh almost 5# each means you have to spin ~9 pounds to 16,000+ rpm which requires a decent amount of HP. The ZZP shafts are 1.75# each. Better yet would be removing them altogether but that requires the electric water pump kit which we haven't released yet. We are working on it though and it's working great in the test cars.
Unfortunately those watching ZZP know, we can take a long time to develop, test and release products. Sometimes years. We're working on ways to speed this up but past failures have taught us that slower is sometimes better.
Asking how much power is a simple question with an extremely complex answer. It's like asking how much HP 5# of boost gives. Too many variables. Similarly the neutral shafts mainly give power because you can spin the motor to higher rpm.
But adding these solid shafts others are selling that weigh almost 5# each means you have to spin ~9 pounds to 16,000+ rpm which requires a decent amount of HP. The ZZP shafts are 1.75# each. Better yet would be removing them altogether but that requires the electric water pump kit which we haven't released yet. We are working on it though and it's working great in the test cars.
Unfortunately those watching ZZP know, we can take a long time to develop, test and release products. Sometimes years. We're working on ways to speed this up but past failures have taught us that slower is sometimes better.
Originally Posted by Zooomer
On the answers to the balance shafts and many other questions, it can be pointless to go over. If vendors not going to be accurate and honest about the products and customers don't care, why bother to respond at all?
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01-19-2010, 04:11 PM
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06-24-2010, 10:01 AM
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I traded in my 06 I would try emailing zzp and ask them if they have a write up on it, or just bring it to a performance shop and ask them
If they've every done something like this, it would'nt hurt
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