FeArLeSsDeSiRe

so with the 07s u can run turbo with a piggyback????

Halfcent

You can run a turbo on any car with a piggyback. But you will have a difficult time tuning it without some kind of ECM flash to start with.

FeArLeSsDeSiRe

and thats what wre having trouble with??????

Halfcent

Yes. The frustration we all have lies in the fact that there are companies out there that can provide us the tools we need, but they as of yet have chosen to focus on other cars. So we are basically out in the cold at the moment.

FeArLeSsDeSiRe

dang is there anyway to run a turbo on my car now w.o buying a kit???

Halfcent

I don't understand the question.

FacelessKhaos

yes...buy the components separately and piece it all together....like i'm doing :-) but you have to know what to buy there is alot involved...

turbo
manifold
oil lines
coolant lines (if the turbo has coolant ports)
intercooler (optional but recommended)
blow off valve or boost bypass valve
plumbing (down pipe, intercooler/intake)
hardware (nuts, bolts, screws, brackets)
wastegate or wastegate actuator (for internally wastegated turbos)
hoses (for the bov/bbv, wastegate)
tuning (piggyback, ecu reflash, full engine management, etc)
patience...

ideally you also want to include

exhaust (to match the turbo, nothing too big as that will rob the powerband, and nothing too small as that would be too restrictive)
synthetic oil swap (highly recommended)

for high boost applications include

engine rebuild (valvetrain, pistons, connecting rods, etc)
intake manifold
throttle body


so basically the most feasible and viable option is go with a kit...they are designed for the average consumer and lay the ground work for bigger projects. Otherwise don't wing it and just by random stuff in hopes that it will work...do research and buy what you need and what is right...or it won't work like it needs to and you could do more damage than good...

hopefully this answers your question...

moes

correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the alpine kit work with the 07 also? and if so link please.

FacelessKhaos

yeah sure it will...but only with piggyback tuning...the tuning that comes with it won't work...different ecu and platform altogether... the 07 uses a 32 bit ecu where the 05/06 uses the 16bit ecu...

FeArLeSsDeSiRe

yeh i will be piecing the turbo kit together... my question was how can a run a turbo kit now on my car???

Halfcent

But the Garrett "Tuner" kit, which is the hardware. Then you would have to get a piggyback set up to manage it, along with some injectors.

bigalpoulos

so this is saying I can supercharge my ls? 2007. or turbo charge whats the difference?

alex

Halfcent

I'm afraid you will have to do a lot more reading. I'm not sure you realize how big of a question you just asked. It can't be answered simply here in a web board post.

Jn2

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custom turbo kit ftmfw

rycobaltls22

Alright. Since the guy from Trifecta can tune our auto tranny, is it possible to get the Garrett Alpha kit, use the SCT tune for just the engine, and use his tranny tune?

Halfcent

No. If you flash the SCT tune into the engine, it will delete a couple of transmission control items. Just let Trifecta do the complete tune for both parts.

I just updated the first post with the most up to date info that I know of. Let me know if I'm wrong about anything.

wrath

LS2Edit/Carputing guys support the E37 PCM. For a bunch of old GM engineers their licensing model is a bit sketchy.

pacific cobalt

That's similar to what I was going to ask Vince @ Trifecta.
If I get the Garrett Alpha Turbo Kit and re-flash using the supplied SCT Tune will it erase my custom tune that Trifecta made for me?
Vince set my rev Limiter at 7000 rpm's and I would'nt want that to be erased by the SCT Tune if I go turbo

Halfcent

Your car can only have one tune at a time. If you are saying that you currently have a tune from Trifecta, then that's what you've got. If you reflash the ECM again, then whatever you had before is gone. So, yes, if you flash the ECM with the SCT Garrett tune for their turbo, then whatever is there now will be erased.

pacific cobalt

Thanks for clearing that up for me Halfcent. Now I'm in the middle of looking for a trustworthy vendor that has the Garrett Alpha Turbo kit. They don't all ship to canada and some use UPS only. I swore that I'd never use UPS after they molested me out of $89 for a $200 purchase twice. Don't want to know how much UPS wants for a $3600 purchase!
Wish that Turbo Tech Racing would sell these. I know I can trust Aaron with over 3 Grand

tonsoffun7

I am new to the forums, as you can probably tell, but anyway i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get just the SCT tuner and not all of the kit, I am in the process of getting mine custom made by MR2GURU. He is going to get it some how and i was wondering if anyone else has found one for sale. Trying not to get ripped off!!

airpower

hey, i've read this entire thread and what it seems like is everyone has done their homework its just the companies haven't cracked the 07-08 computer.. but, this is what it says on their page. i mean it says 05+

"The Garrett® Chevrolet Cobalt Turbo Kit is for the 2.2L Ecotec engine for LS coupe and sedan model years 2005 and above. A GT2860RS "Disco Potato" ball-bearing turbocharger and all of the necessary components are included to complete the installation in your own garage!"


http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...tm#Garrett2.2L

im sure that if it didnt work they would change the discription. i dont know much about the kit or the ecu, but that is what it says.

Halfcent

To the best of my knowledge, that web page was written before the 07 model came out, and simply wasn't updated when it did. The Garrett kits tune from SCT was written for the E16 ECM. It will not work on the E37.

airpower

i see said the blind man.. damn!

BlackMachine

x 2

lol