csementuh

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Wow good progress ZZP!

Holy **** though... Polymer trans mount? That thing seems like it would shatter or at least tear in a frontal collision.

Seems like there are many bottlenecks in the intake and exhaust. Hopefully lots of good gains to be had. I'm dropping my SS/SC to buy a Mercedes C300 4MATIC or I'd be real interested in these mods.

csa1982

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sub'd

Matt M

We will likely run 2.25".

elecblue06

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ahhh i was wondering. i just dont know how long the tubing is currently or anything to know if there was anyway to make 2.25 effective

cool good to know..

you guys plan on a 2.5" dp? to go with the 2.5" elbow? i notice it tapers inn by the dp

hows the IC look? is that something you wil be looking into? or exhaust/ intake boost tubing first

Matt M

2" diameter tubing would be enough, but I don't feel that 2.25 is going to hurt anything. It is thick wall, so the ID is 2.08". It will be big enough to use with turbo swaps as well.

We will make more exhaust components as well.

The IC is only 1-3/16" thick. It's tall, but very thin, sanwiched between the condensor and radiator.

Kyle4236

so is modding this worth it so far?

Matt M

Considering that it comes from the factory lacking power, I would say that modding it is a good idea. Gains are where they should be so far. We experimented a little and hit 153whp already. Once we have a few bolt-ons and a tune, it should be over 180 at the wheels. My Corvette came from the factory making a lot less than that.

Kyle4236

out of curiosity what did it make?

Matt M

I didn't own it until '96, but it was a base model 350ci motor rated at 175hp at the flywheel. Through an old school automatic and IRS, I bet it was good for about 130 at the wheels.

elecblue06

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ahhh i thought you were talking about inner diameter thats what i was thinking but yes

i forgot about the fmic being sammiched in there is there any place to move it ? go make it so you can use a better one?

Matt M

Yes, our FMIC will actually be front mount. There's plenty of room.

elecblue06

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cool i figured there would be enough space.. i'm willing to bet your CP that goes with it will be better those are some pretty tight radii on the one you took a picture of at the ends

07SuperchargedSS

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Super excited to dump my pos cobalt for the cruze Now if only GM would throw some incentives out next month, I'll be golden

koch1ar

ill be getting a cruze in 3 years or sooner if my car gets totalled

ebristol

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Wow.

What do you guys plan on doing about that?

rallycobalt06

looking good ZZP

at the beginning i was guessing 200whp with complete bolt-ons and a sweet tune, looks like that is a possibility depending on the tuning. good luck guys.

Kildore

Congrats on the progress!

elecblue06

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vince has gotten some great gains on just a tune.. and he said it falls off at the top .. however the turbo isn't falling off up top so it could just need flow mods..

do i think flow mods are going to get 40 whp+ whp to hit 200 whp probably not .. but 180-190 should be possible definitely

rallycobalt06

that's still very good for a economy car that wasn't built for performance. talk about a fun daily driver

elecblue06

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yea it'll have more hp then a bolt on 2.4 and even more torquie then hp lol it'll be fun for sure

Matt M

It's not as bad as it looks. Turbo 1.4s don't need much for TB size. If it does prove to be a restriction, there will most likely be a larger TB available to replace it with. I'd expect the 1.8 TB to be larger.

rallycobalt06

Matt M........... so what are ZZP's thoughts for a turbo swap? in other words, what size turbo do you think you guys would use?

ok so just throwing this out there for a final number with full turbo back exhaust, intake, IC & piping, and a really good tune..... 185whp/210wtq..... that would be a spunky little bastard that would be enough to LOL at some eBay turbo Civics.

Matt M

Something like a stock LNF turbo would be nice. For more power than that, I would compound. Something in the 54-60mm range should work well.

jonnymerk

Are you gonna mod any suspension stuff?

elecblue06

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i keep telling vince to do a turbo swap on his hhr and use that turbo on the cruze lol .. i think that would be mighty nice

what kind of numbers you think you could put down with the ss/tc turbo ? think 250 whp or so would be a possibility