LE5 cam swap into LAP
07-14-2011, 03:56 PM
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I'm trying to remember, but I believe you're correct on all of them. The non-vvt cars for sure have the offset keyway that only lets the cam gear go on in one position. I've done an LNF and one LE5, I thought they had a similar setup but i'm thinking now that I do remember a pin setup on one of them. I sold the LE5 gears/actuators/sensors, or i'd look at the spare set I have. Probably let them go too cheap, had a guy who needed a cam sensor and I gave him everything for $50, both cps, both actuators and both gears.
07-16-2011, 11:58 PM
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LE5 cams do not work. Destroyed the head. Had the timing done from bottom up by the dealer after I put the cams in(vehicle was towed to dealer, was not started. Don't worry Im.not that dumb) and kaboom. Overlap is different. 16 bent valves, destroyed the seats, guides, and seals, and chipped 2 pistons. 3k **** up for a few hopeful hp.
07-17-2011, 02:33 AM
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LE5 cams do not work. Destroyed the head. Had the timing done from bottom up by the dealer after I put the cams in(vehicle was towed to dealer, was not started. Don't worry Im.not that dumb) and kaboom. Overlap is different. 16 bent valves, destroyed the seats, guides, and seals, and chipped 2 pistons. 3k **** up for a few hopeful hp.
07-17-2011, 05:41 AM
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im with joe here, they def should have done a "hand turn" first to ensure correct timing regardless if they knew they were different cams or not.
08-05-2011, 10:25 AM
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Leafy - Both motors use the extact same timing gears and phasers, so I doubt its that.
This sounds like the motor wasn't timed properly, regardless of it being the done by the dealer or not, they can still make mistakes.
There is something weird going on here....
This sounds like the motor wasn't timed properly, regardless of it being the done by the dealer or not, they can still make mistakes.
There is something weird going on here....
08-05-2011, 10:33 AM
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2 the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember ..
and i agree with leafy... something was seriously fucked up... if you destroyed all your valves and fucked up 2 pistons.. i highly doubt it was JUST the cams
08-08-2011, 11:44 AM
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very wheird newt
08-08-2011, 12:34 PM
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1. well stage III cams are going to shift that powerband up, starting at 3500 or so. to maximize the full range you'll have to have of course springs and shafts and a larger set of injectors the lift and duration of the valve puts a massive strain on stock injectors especially running 7500 and higher. you can do it with a 24# set and itll work fine till 7200 but to reach wherever your stage III's end (depending on cam) 7800-9000 your going to want those injectors
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
08-08-2011, 02:53 PM
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1. well stage III cams are going to shift that powerband up, starting at 3500 or so. to maximize the full range you'll have to have of course springs and shafts and a larger set of injectors the lift and duration of the valve puts a massive strain on stock injectors especially running 7500 and higher. you can do it with a 24# set and itll work fine till 7200 but to reach wherever your stage III's end (depending on cam) 7800-9000 your going to want those injectors
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
08-08-2011, 02:58 PM
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1. well stage III cams are going to shift that powerband up, starting at 3500 or so. to maximize the full range you'll have to have of course springs and shafts and a larger set of injectors the lift and duration of the valve puts a massive strain on stock injectors especially running 7500 and higher. you can do it with a 24# set and itll work fine till 7200 but to reach wherever your stage III's end (depending on cam) 7800-9000 your going to want those injectors
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
2. "the valve springs are the same on all models from what i remember .." where did that even come from? i mean im not one to play the "whose d**k is bigger game but when provoked come'on now
if you're using the LE5 cams you will not be revving to 7500 or higher.. i dont know what anything you brought up has to do with this thread.. and you said you need to upgrade your valve springs.. if you're running the le5 cams you dont
apparently i didn't post this previously but yes exactly what leafy said lol
08-08-2011, 03:44 PM
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08-08-2011, 03:50 PM
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Flying low wants BIGGER cams, well since they sell nothing of the sort for our cars maby we could find out if they were the same cam since the head PN was the same....thus if the cams fit then low could use his choice of stage 1,2,3 cams
08-08-2011, 04:00 PM
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and even then the one set of cams that are out there for the le5 you probably wouldn't need new injectors you probably wouldn't be pushing over 200 whp with them you could probably get 180.. which is still in the range of stock injectors. if you're revving over 7200 i'd recommend valve springs 7500 balance shafts
08-10-2011, 09:53 AM
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I believe I had a sensor (either crank or cam) go bad and throw off the reference point. As for right now it runs like absolute garbage. Surges like bucking bronco at a stoplight, hold the rpms steady at 1500-2500 and you hear the thing misfire nonstop, and its down on power. Got my ass handed to me by a stock scion tc. And I have full bolt ons
. I'm about to just give up on this motor, throw a low miles boneyard motor in and sell the thing.
. I'm about to just give up on this motor, throw a low miles boneyard motor in and sell the thing.