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Old 06-12-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
if some people in this thread even had a shred of a clue. you would be dangerous.
i wanna be dangerous...
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
if some people in this thread even had a shred of a clue. you would be dangerous.
dude, area...you have no idea how much these posts bug me. You're a good guy, and are generally very helpful, but posts like this are so frustrating. What I post is what I understand, the way I understand it. If something is wrong, it's not helpful at all to say something along the lines of "the stuff in this thread..." but to actually correct the errors so that we can learn is. If you're going to point out a flaw in someones logic or statement, then poin it out, dont just say "you're wrong" and not explain your reasoning. I'd almost rather you not make any comment at all if you're not going to be helpful (although I would hate to believe something works in a way that is incorrect, as I would likely pass that information on, further causing people to believe an incorrect statement).
So please, if there is a argued point on here that is incorrect and is not or has not been addressed, please do so. Again, I say this as nicely as possible, because often in the past you've helped me through various PMed questions. I'm just hoping you stay as helpful as you once were
Old 06-13-2009, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Area47
if some people in this thread even had a shred of a clue. you would be dangerous.
i dont have a clue i just like playing with stuff
Old 06-13-2009, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
dude, area...you have no idea how much these posts bug me. You're a good guy, and are generally very helpful, but posts like this are so frustrating. What I post is what I understand, the way I understand it. If something is wrong, it's not helpful at all to say something along the lines of "the stuff in this thread..." but to actually correct the errors so that we can learn is. If you're going to point out a flaw in someones logic or statement, then poin it out, dont just say "you're wrong" and not explain your reasoning. I'd almost rather you not make any comment at all if you're not going to be helpful (although I would hate to believe something works in a way that is incorrect, as I would likely pass that information on, further causing people to believe an incorrect statement).
So please, if there is a argued point on here that is incorrect and is not or has not been addressed, please do so. Again, I say this as nicely as possible, because often in the past you've helped me through various PMed questions. I'm just hoping you stay as helpful as you once were
i do not have to explain a ******* thing. it already has been explained. most people in THIS thread are to dumb to even remotely catch the bits of information being put out there.

you telling me what to do is NOT a wise idea. i do NOT have to be helpful in this thread because someone else already posted the answer. multiple times. so how about this junior. you go back and read and find the answer that people so valiantly over looked. stop thinking you actually know something before you get yourself into a situation you can't get out of.

hell i don't have to be helpful period. there is not a law, or rule that says I have to help anyone, or be nice.
Old 06-13-2009, 01:52 PM
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^^^^ i like the pic in the sig

i was boosting only 3 psi unless i acelerated faster than my bypass would open up. i disconnected my boost bypass and found where my boost went hahaha i got an appointment to get the car tuned on sat at 9am then i get to go to import wars and see what the car will do... should be a fun day. o and i get to buy meth i havnt had any in soo long i cant wait
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Originally Posted by Area47
i do not have to explain a ******* thing. it already has been explained. most people in THIS thread are to dumb to even remotely catch the bits of information being put out there.

you telling me what to do is NOT a wise idea. i do NOT have to be helpful in this thread because someone else already posted the answer. multiple times. so how about this junior. you go back and read and find the answer that people so valiantly over looked. stop thinking you actually know something before you get yourself into a situation you can't get out of.

hell i don't have to be helpful period. there is not a law, or rule that says I have to help anyone, or be nice.
#1 I dont know which point of mine you asre saying is incorrect
#2 I dont know which argued point in this thread is the correct one (all you're saying is one of the many answers to a question is the correct one...)
#3 What is with the attitude... I tried to sound as respectable as I could, and you come back at me like that? Ridiculously unnecessary....
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you were telling me what i can do on a public forum. this in itself opens the gates.
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Originally Posted by Area47
you were telling me what i can do on a public forum. this in itself opens the gates.
ugh. you totally misinterpreted what i said. All i was saying was it would be nice to hear what exactly im being corrected on instead of just hearing that I am wrong, as that isnt helpful. You can do whatever you like, but I'm always trying to learn, and finding out I am wrong about something when i dont know what the something is isnt helping. I'm definitely not ordering you around..not at all. Just looking for clarification and hoping(not demanding) you give it to me.
Old 06-16-2009, 03:53 PM
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What a **** up thread.
Freakta, I'm just going to PM you the solution I used, and not even bother reading this thread.
Old 06-16-2009, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 06black
what a **** show.

novel idea, massively nasty execution.

take the flow rate @ the PR you want to run and match that up with pipe sizing, my initial numbers come out to about ~1.68in of cross section with the SC at max eff% flow/pr.

this is not a turbo, thus its flow rate is no where in that neighborhood. no need for 2.5in piping, so dropping pipe size will help control the MUCH larger PD your getting across that rats nest of pipe and couplers.

the internal flow area of your system is HUGE, 7* of bend = 1ft

its times like these you need to look at the well done street-minded turbo set ups of the world, notice how short and direct they run the charge pipe, notice how the IC is just the size needed for the flow rate.

things like this will take this idea from its current disaster and turn it into something worthwhile.
Originally Posted by 06black
Ok, I see some people going all wanna-be engineer here.

Stop it, and read what a real one has to say.

Your matching area's here, that is not the solution.

You need to match max flow areas, take the max flow rate from the TVS comp map, along with it's PR at that flow, and play the math game.

U find the flow rates of pipe sizes, make sure u note what pressure it was tested at, then u can dirive the the needed cross section.


It will be far shy of the ~3.5in number u have now, it's even less then 2.0in.


God the pressure drop alone on a 3.5in should make you want to find the answer.
Run the math, the answers rite there.
Hunterkiller HERE is your answers.......do i win prize??
Old 06-16-2009, 07:31 PM
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sat afternoon i will post dyno results and hptuner logs of what the car does sat morning is the dyno and sat afternoon is the drag strip
Old 06-16-2009, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennyspec
Hunterkiller HERE is your answers.......do i win prize??
somebody finally picked up on it.
Old 06-16-2009, 11:45 PM
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when will people learn.......their too busy thinking how baller 4" charge piping would look to see the answers are right in front of them.
Old 06-19-2009, 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennyspec
Hunterkiller HERE is your answers.......do i win prize??




Originally Posted by HunterKiller89

BTW, I just want to say thanks for keeping this an educated discussion. It seems these are rare these days. And thanks 06black for clearing up our charge piping diameter. 3.5" seemed way too large, but I wasn't quite sure which method to be using to determine ideal diameter sizing.
Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
So please, if there is a argued point on here that is incorrect and is not or has not been addressed, please do so.

nope...sorry
area was commenting on a point that was already clarified, but since he wasnt specific in his post, I thought he was referring to a different error, which is why i got frustrated. thanks tho
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What a **** up thread.
lol. Welcome back to the short bus!
Old 06-20-2009, 04:24 PM
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initial dyno pull
6400 rpm
intake temp 95
it2 108
Old 06-20-2009, 04:26 PM
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holy ****.

numbers kthx.

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Old 06-20-2009, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by freakta
initial dyno pull
6400 rpm
intake temp 95
it2 108
Awaiting back to back pulls.
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hp and tq? got to be more to tell
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back to back pulls 108 and 109
from 95 and 96 respectivly

we pulled 5 degrees just to be safe and the car isnt running meth yet but it looks promising

need smaller pulley, only makes 15psi

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Old 06-20-2009, 04:43 PM
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:47 PM
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loking for suggestions on pulley size.

stock makes 15psi on the tvs

60#injectors are at 85%dc at 7k rpms

not running meth yet but will be next time we dyno

looking for a good pulley size to buy before i go back to fred
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Do you have the make and size IC your running?
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youd have to ask jerome that one. not sure but its about the same size as the one on freds cav


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