06blackg85ss

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I'm going to use this thread to document what I do with this setup.
will have the car out actually driving this weekend and some numbers soon after that
I will dyno the car in different stages as I will be needing to upgrade my fuel system a little more over the next week or 2
but anyway on to the good stuff.

First off, this was my first time installing a turbo kit on this car (last 3 setups were home built with random parts I scored deals on) let me tell you how much easier and nicer it came out.

motor:
2.0 lsj 10:1 comp diamond pistons
some kind of sleeves designed for diesel pulling motors
4340 rods stock crank
arp head bolts, stock head gasket
ZZP st 2 s/c cams (originally was doing an m62 nitrous build, but you know)
exedy hyper single clutch
aem 320lph e85 pump
79 lb racetronix injectors (need some 1600's)
e85 is the fuel of choice

s256 turbo (will run it til I run out of fuel for now)
meth injection
and a 100 shot on top since this turbo is a little small

on to the photo's, please I know my car is dirty and looks terrible, I don't care about appearence it's how it performs is what matters

I will be updating more after I get it out and tuned this weekend so keep an eye out

onto the pictures

the tear down




turbo mani is in



oil feed setup is great, much better then the way we used to do it back in the day
nice tial wastegate


the insane intake manifold



charge pipes a goin in, nice to have an actual intake this time, always ran a screen on the old setups


oil return line in and wastegate dump


plenty of clearance around the downpipe


zzp fmic for now (ottp ones weren't in at the time of ordering)


big ol air filter


rest of charge pipes in, very clean setup





and the finished product



and a quick idle vid with open downpipe


any install questions feel free to post up and I'd be happy to answer ya.

06blackg85ss

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some pics of the older setups just to give you and idea


tiny stock lsj brakes

the old motor that I killed


ah my old m2 race head, now on advise's car

old vulcan turbo mani

sc4door

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Looks good but 2 things
1. Are you burning oil? I only ask because of how much smoke I saw in the video.
2. What the hell did you do to the front crash bar?

06blackg85ss

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Was loading up on fuel. Plus motor is newly built so might be the rings not run in yet.

And front crash bar was for this

sc4door

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Having worked at a body shop makes me cringe seeing people run without a crash bar or with one that's hacked up. Just because I've seen how much damage there is from low speed hits on cars when the crash bar is actually there to absorb it. You should run one of the intercooler sprayers on your new setup and see if it makes any difference

Jesse

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I'd be more interested in what you changed in the tune to make your car idle. What RPM is that at? I have the same cams ready to go in a soon as I buy a timing set and head gasket.

06blackg85ss

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idle was at 950 or so car is pretty much untuned for anything at this point, haven't had time. basically just tuned enough to idle lol.

as for the crash bar, eh, I am picking up a new one to replace this, just hasnt come in yet. will be swapped real soon.
and god the amount of money in heat exchangers that just came out of the car made me cringe driving it in nyc
especailly since the first day I drove it in 9 months I got rear ended

06blackg85ss

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oh and I will be running one of the co2 kits on the fmic also.
so much wiring left to do with the meth and nitrous, I'll get to it eventually

sc4door

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I've always been interested to see how much difference one of those makes

double clutch

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Very nice. Josh had a yellow lsj at his place for a while with this kit on it. The owner put it up for sale a few months back. Iirc, made north of like 550hp.

Omiotek

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looks like a nice kit but it looks like a zzp knock off minus the intake manifold.

Slowbalt2000

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... Theres only so many ways you can route the piping lol.

Omiotek

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the piping only has so much to do with it. the exhaust manifold is a exact replica for the most part of the pre cast zzp manifolds and the downpipes similar too. for the log manifold i would do the cast one all day. a lot less failure points. thats why im pretty sure zzp went cast when they started with the lnfs. that sch10 piping couldnt handle the heat.

Snail_SS

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Looks good man

tuned08ss

Seeing builds like this show me how much I'm slacking lol. Nice build man, she should move out.

06blackg85ss

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I have installed zzp turbo kits on a few cars, and the manifold is a bit different.
and I agree cast is the way to go, but cost always factors in I guess.

06blackg85ss

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probably not much, but we will see

yellowsupercharged06

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i need to swap oil pans ... tell me the secrets !

do you have more of the sealant ?

06blackg85ss

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Use the right stuff.
That is what its called btw. And yes i have 2 cans left

06blackg85ss

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And its a 15 20 minute job. Just make sure you get all the bolts before prying. Theres 2 hidden and the bottom ac compressor bolt has to come out too

JapEatr

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nice job Pail

Josh@ottp

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You have a good eye. I was brought a car that already had a ZZP manifold, down pipe, and air intake and asked to make a intake manifold and charge piping for it. When another customer asked for the same setup and I thought about making kits for sale I had 2 choices, start from scratch or use what I already had.

So the turbo manifold has the same mounting points, the flanges are a different design though. My air intake pipe and down pipe are slightly different but using the same turbo manifold makes everything universal. ZZP has a good design manifold in my opinion and a lot of people already have it. This allows me to sell a intake manifold and ic piping kit to someone with ZZP parts.

Even cast manifolds crack with time. The ZZP cast manifold appears to have the mold made from a sch10 tig welded manifold so wall thickness would be the same.

EDIT: I also compared a Vulcan log manifold to the ZZP when I started, mounting point was about 1/4" different.

06blackg85ss

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chasing down a mystery oil leak, but took it out for a few pulls yesterday, and damn didn't realize how much I missed the power of the turbo.
on wastegate (21-22psi) car pulled pretty damn strong, broke the tires in 2nd and 3rd. mind you tune is setup very very conservative right now, but it pulls strong as hell, and ahh missed the scream of an open wastegate, scared the crap out of my neighbors in the process lol

JapEatr

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paul what injectors are you on?

06blackg85ss

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79's right now, no where near enough fuel in the car
gonna add an inline pump and step up to 160lb shortly.
no idea where my afr is as my wideband is being shitty. but was at 124% at 7400 rpm and 21.6 psi. probably was on the rich side judging by the setup in the tune