http://www.gravanatuning.com/applications/2005_Chevrolet_Cobalt_SS_Coupe_2.0.aspx/2/4069/_Comp_Cams_Ecotec_Camshaft_Set_Stage_3.

did anyone see this? says its for Off Road Use Only and not highway. lol whattttttttt

i see they have them for the 2.2 also, i want to get cams in the future, but i dont want ones where the car dies out at idle

thats sick...is anyone else gonna make cams for the ss?

I know J-Body Performance has mad a stage 1 cam and I'm the prototype car for the Stage 2, both are street legal,
mine will be installed middle of next week.

I know J-Body Performance has mad a stage 1 cam and I'm the prototype car for the Stage 2, both are street legal,
mine will be installed middle of next week.
Keep us updated on how this works out for you. I have till the beginning of March to get parts in order as that is when I tear down my block to start the 300+ build. :)

Nice

Unless this has a diff. lobe sep. then these are the same cams i posted about a long time ago. Why they named it stage 3, i don't know! they are the only blower cam they make. I talk to comp cams months ago about these and they are street legal. Just need a recal. to make it run better. Its designed to work with the stock valvetrain.

We are actually going to try the Turbo cams, Stage 2 and Stage 3 cams in the 2.2 ecotec drag cavalier we have this up coming season and see what actually works best.
We also sell them. Email us for a Cobaltss.net price!

We are actually going to try the Turbo cams, Stage 2 and Stage 3 cams in the 2.2 ecotec drag cavalier we have this up coming season and see what actually works best.
We also sell them. Email us for a Cobaltss.net price!


What valvesprings are you going to use? Specs? Please don't say stock!

i have to give you guys a review on the comp cams. i had a comp cam in my civic and i have to say that the cam was one of the best investments i made. i had a lot of head work that went along with the cam but man it dramatically increased my top end. now my idle was shot to hell. lol. it loped really hard, but i had the race cam and not the street cam. comp cams knows what they are doing!!!

Those are CompCams Part #113250 to be exact.

i think they mean its not legal for use on highway, not it CAN'T be used on the highway.

Come again!?

What valvesprings are you going to use? Specs? Please don't say stock!

We carry a full line of valve train parts. We will be using our dual valve spring with our special swirled stainless steel valves :)

We carry a full line of valve train parts. We will be using our dual valve spring with our special swirled stainless steel valves :)


Any word on when the valve springs/valves will be released to the public? I would be very interested in your Turbo cam set-up...that's a very nice/broad powerband according to your site!

I have the JBP stage 1 cams for ages now. I would consider the stage 2 cams if they didnt release them right after my stage 1 cams! :( the cams made a big difference, but i would let someone install them who knows what their doing.

player_1 keep us up to date as to how your stage 2s come along!

hey spooler, did you notice any differance in the idel?

For our cars would we get the "blower" grind if not can we use Stage 3?

wouldnt it cost us like $1000.00 to get these installed since they have to pull the engine?

you shouldnt have to pull the motor to remove the head

you shouldnt have to pull the motor to remove the head
^ Correct, it is far easier then doing a cam install on the 2.4L cavalier engine

ok how much for an estimated install

aren't these the cams for the 2.2?

i think this topic has been visited, and that the 2.0 has one cam longer than the other, and these won't fit/work properly...

I have no clue what cams do. All I know is that they make more hp and good top end. Could someone tell me what cams will do to the car?? Thanx

Camshafts (or cams) are what control your intake and exhaust valves in each cylinder.

Cams are driven by the timing belt. When the cam turns, it closes the exhaust valve, and opens the intake valve...or vice versa. This is all dependent on the timing and tuning of the car. The cams are ground to certain parameters that determine the length of time that each valve is open and the timing in which they close/open. As you probably know, for combustion in a cylinder, air and fuel are let in through intake valve into the cylinder. Then it closes and the spark plug goes off as the piston pushes the air/fuel up, creating combustion. Then the exhaust valve opens, exhaust gases escape and the piston is pushed down.

Aftermarket cams are designed to allow more air/fuel into each cylinder, usually at higher rpms. The more radical the cam, the better top-end performance you have, because the cams are then designed to be running at 5000+rpm or whatever. This usually results is poor idle quality. For example, when you go to the track and see pro street cars run, the idle sounds like its either going to die, or its real "lumpy." That means they have a very aggressive cam.

I hope that answered your question.

they have a blower cam on the site but how would there grind be any differant....we cant realy make use of a hig rpm cam becasue the redline is low and sence its a blower the boost is almost always on so how would an aftermarkit cam be diff......i kno it is i just dont get it...thanks

any body...?

Camshafts (or cams) are what control your intake and exhaust valves in each cylinder.

Cams are driven by the timing belt. When the cam turns, it closes the exhaust valve, and opens the intake valve...or vice versa. This is all dependent on the timing and tuning of the car. The cams are ground to certain parameters that determine the length of time that each valve is open and the timing in which they close/open. As you probably know, for combustion in a cylinder, air and fuel are let in through intake valve into the cylinder. Then it closes and the spark plug goes off as the piston pushes the air/fuel up, creating combustion. Then the exhaust valve opens, exhaust gases escape and the piston is pushed down.

Aftermarket cams are designed to allow more air/fuel into each cylinder, usually at higher rpms. The more radical the cam, the better top-end performance you have, because the cams are then designed to be running at 5000+rpm or whatever. This usually results is poor idle quality. For example, when you go to the track and see pro street cars run, the idle sounds like its either going to die, or its real "lumpy." That means they have a very aggressive cam.

I hope that answered your question.

Thank you. That cleared it up for me. I understood every word you said belive it or not. Website's such as these are very useful to me. If it wasn't for this site and all of its members, I wouldn't know what was out for the cobalt or what different parts do to the engine.

Thank you. That cleared it up for me. I understood every word you said belive it or not. Website's such as these are very useful to me. If it wasn't for this site and all of its members, I wouldn't know what was out for the cobalt or what different parts do to the engine.

agreed. When I owned my talon, I learned EVERYTHING about them from my fellow DSMers and NJDSM and DSMTuner websites. I spent maybe $300 on all the mods I got because I bought used parts from other people. That's why I joined up on CSS.net when I got the cobalt. Lots of useful information, and not as many used parts available...but you get them every now and again.

back to the cams...
Deciding on what cams to get is very tricky. Cams are a pain in the dick to install and affect the daily driveability of the car. Usually stage 1 or stage 2 cams are streetable with little difference in driveability. It's when you get to the aggressive stage 3+ cams that you have problems driving everyday. It is at this point where you need to figure out exactly what the car is going to be used for and what you hope to attain by installing the cams.

I have a 2.2L eco at my other house... i took most of it apart, the one side wasn't that hard at all to take off, and u don't have to remove the head to doit, the other side however, i still can't get off cuz of sum kinda pump or sumin holding it in. my $.02

back from the dead! :) any update testers? would like to UPGRADE from stage 1s to stage 2s please.

What would be a nice set of stage 1 or 2 cams for a daily driver? I just want get more hp out of my car.

Whats the part number for the blower cam?

Ok as some of you know I am usually on the rl forums but I have a 2.0 spare block and I am doing a perf build. I am working with sms and I have been doing alot of research over the last two months.


1. The stock valve train is having some prob's now, I am in pretty good with my dealers service manager. The prob's they are seeing are valve floating with stock cars and binding valves due to excessive carbon deposites. Solution use a oil catch can between valve cover vent and the intake. But be sure to hook it up so there is a line going from the vc to the catch and the vent of the catch to the intake. This is to evacuate any fuel vapor from the crankcase in order to avoid a crankcase explosion. This is why not to just put a filter there instead. IT NEEDS VACUME...

2. Jessel makes a killer setup for the ecotec but oh baby its $$$ try $2500 just for the rockers and lifters. For what we need this is way overkill these setups are used on the pro cars not daily drivers.

3. The question about the larger ratio rockers, No nobody makes any for us and probably wont due to the very small window of operation for these valves. But on the other aplications that they are made for they work very well ( I have used them on several v8's). BTW are stock ratio is 1.75 which is fairly large already.

4. The only valve springs that I can find are from ferrea I talked to their engineer and they have what we need including titanium retainers . The jbperf stuff I have no idea what they are using but by the price doesnt sound like ferrea because they are like 300 for springs and 300 for retainers and 150 for seats. These prices are just list so they may be cheaper with some haggling (yes I'm on it).
I am worried about the jbperfs because its well known that some socall perf guys will add shims under the stock spring to increase seat pressure. This only ok to a point but our factory stuff isnt rated for this and could be a very bad ending with coil bind and fatigue vs the ferrea stuff that is engineered for it. Personally I'm not going to chance it.

Also to add somebody said something about the overlap. Our cams DO NOT HAVE THE OVERLAP in the grind due to its a dual cam. You control the overlap with adj cam gears (for those who dont know overlap is the time the intake and exhuast valves are open at the same time). Now thinking about it if you where using non adj gears the overlap could be put in the grind but why would you want to instead buck up and get the gears.

Heres our factory specs from my spare engine. only pay attention to the top table of each measurement and the overlap is wrong you must measure this with the cams in the block and a degree wheel.

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/4/3/8/cam.jpg

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/2/4/3/8/cam1.jpg