Originally Posted by CBodnar

stage2, i picked mine up for $400 brand new on ebay but i think the guy was selling stolen gm stage2 kits so i don't think you could get that anymore. umm save up and just get 42.5 injectors and gm stage3 ecu then it's better than gm stage2. then down the road u can run the 50dry shot + race gas.

Originally Posted by 007Buff

Your retarded you cant tune the stage 3 ecu

Originally Posted by blk ss/sc 1

dont think he said you could

Originally Posted by ridgeracer24

Ok so here is the deal next month i am going to have an extra $500 laying around. What i want to do with it is maybe get a better clutch before i start doing alot of upgrades. I wanted to know what you guys thought i should do.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

1. i am not a retard, i never said you could tune the stage 3 ecu
2. buying 42.5 injectors + the gm stage 3 kit would be 10x better than gm stage2 and be a lot cheaper and way more horsepower and be safe because gm made it. before you make some stupid ar-tard comment like you did above i will explain myself now for the people who are not as smart.

gm stage 3 kit(2.99 inch pulley smaller than gm stage2 pulley, the gm stage 3 ecu, also the ecu has a setup and allows a 50dry shot of nitrous and everything to install, Oh, and also this kit comes with the DUAL-PASS-END-PLATE and the whole kit is only = $625.25 from http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1689C196.aspx
your probably going to say oh but with gm stage 3 you can't have a/c. ohhhh but you can. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/2-0l-lsj-performance-tech-47/gmpp-stage-3-c-76479/

gm stage 2 belt = $42.50 http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-Stage-2-Belt-12597993-P1592C221.aspx

Lucas 42.5 pound/hour Fuel Injectors = $169.99 http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IR&Product_Cod e=LSJ-FIS-425-4&Category_Code=LSJ_Fuel

with that right there your car will be faster than a gm stage 2 cobalt and it will be done for a lot cheaper and will not have to be done at the dealership. a total amount of money spent with the gm stage 2 belt = $837.74

Might i add gm stage 3 ecu has a tune that comes with it for no extra charge to allow running race gas which will add almost an extra 20 horsepower and also the tune is way better and benefits more than gm stage2 setup b/c it does not run as rich and if your using nitrous it adds more fuel so it runs the nitrous safely.

yes i have done my research and yes i do realize i should have chosen this path because with the setup above of brand new parts + down the road you can pick up a 50dry shot brand new from dynotune.com for $289.00 http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idCategory=46

so the total money in BRAND new parts comes to $1126.74 add a airbox mod like i did and buy yourself a $20 dollar filter or if u feel like spending $50 or $60 for a known brand go buy that it is the same as injen cai cause i did tests with my friend who bought one when we were both stock. with the airbox mod and all that's said above and little problems you come into i'd say you spend $1,200 in total.

your close to 300hp to the wheels with all that. actually a member who already did this setup and added a couple other things downpipe and exhaust he hit 306 to the wheels it's inside his signature and he has proof. for sure the cheapest and with the race gas + 50dry shot and the above the car will run great and perform well and for sure you can brag about spending only that much on your car and it would be an animal.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

1. i am not a retard, i never said you could tune the stage 3 ecu
2. buying 42.5 injectors + the gm stage 3 kit would be 10x better than gm stage2 and be a lot cheaper and way more horsepower and be safe because gm made it. before you make some stupid ar-tard comment like you did above i will explain myself now for the people who are not as smart.

gm stage 3 kit(2.99 inch pulley smaller than gm stage2 pulley, the gm stage 3 ecu, also the ecu has a setup and allows a 50dry shot of nitrous and everything to install, Oh, and also this kit comes with the DUAL-PASS-END-PLATE and the whole kit is only = $625.25 from http://www.crateenginedepot.com/stor...P1689C196.aspx
your probably going to say oh but with gm stage 3 you can't have a/c. ohhhh but you can. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76479

gm stage 2 belt = $42.50 http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-Stage-2-Belt-12597993-P1592C221.aspx

Lucas 42.5 pound/hour Fuel Injectors = $169.99 http://intense-racing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=IR&Product_Cod e=LSJ-FIS-425-4&Category_Code=LSJ_Fuel

with that right there your car will be faster than a gm stage 2 cobalt and it will be done for a lot cheaper and will not have to be done at the dealership. a total amount of money spent with the gm stage 2 belt = $837.74

Might i add gm stage 3 ecu has a tune that comes with it for no extra charge to allow running race gas which will add almost an extra 20 horsepower and also the tune is way better and benefits more than gm stage2 setup b/c it does not run as rich and if your using nitrous it adds more fuel so it runs the nitrous safely.

yes i have done my research and yes i do realize i should have chosen this path because with the setup above of brand new parts + down the road you can pick up a 50dry shot brand new from dynotune.com for $289.00 http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idCategory=46

so the total money in BRAND new parts comes to $1126.74 add a airbox mod like i did and buy yourself a $20 dollar filter or if u feel like spending $50 or $60 for a known brand go buy that it is the same as injen cai cause i did tests with my friend who bought one when we were both stock. with the airbox mod and all that's said above and little problems you come into i'd say you spend $1,200 in total.

your close to 300hp to the wheels with all that. actually a member who already did this setup and added a couple other things downpipe and exhaust he hit 306 to the wheels it's inside his signature and he has proof. for sure the cheapest and with the race gas + 50dry shot and the above the car will run great and perform well and for sure you can brag about spending only that much on your car and it would be an animal.

Originally Posted by domin8_gt

another thing I'd like to mention is that the GM s3 allows you to change your rev limiter up to 8k in 250 increments. I would not do this route because you would have to do some work to the head of the engine such as valves and springs if you want to get your higher reving and 300hp. That will up the bill some more before it is fully usable. For more info go to CED and read the entire FAQ.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

yeah, i messed up if i actually researched more about the car my goal is 300 to the wheels and that's it because we all know for daily driving and all that having more than that and trying to use it as a daily driver/race car just doesn't work out. so i figure i hit my 300 mark and i call it a day i hope ( probably not because we all end up wanting more power).

all the stuff is pretty basic i don't know how to install much but you got to learn some day and if you have a friend at a garage or anyone that knows anything about cars or even if your smart you read the manual it comes with. end plate + the pulley is basic as hell + the belt switch + how to guides on the net and video's these days. it really isn't that difficult and if you want to save the hundred or two hundred dollars it's best you do it yourself and learn and make it a small hobbie.

i am gm stage2 + 2.80 + airbox mod $20 dollar filter. i spent so far $400 on gm stage 2 + 2.80 pulley nates $50 + airbox mod time + $20 dollar filter. total of $470 spent + $225 for install. a total money spent under $700 bucks haha. all i want to do is add a 50wet shot and be done and i will be close to my bench mark i think.

Originally Posted by lsjwannabe

wheelhop makes axles no move



or just not go with the stg3 at all becuase it is worthless

Originally Posted by CBodnar

what route would be better if you didn't want to spend a lot of money and he saved up that $500 bucks and lets say he can't get money that fast and doesn't feel like dumping more than 2k into his car and he doesn't want over 300hp and doesn't want to break stuff and then end up fixing it and his car not being able to work? you tell me what would be better and then i'll go do that myself.

like i said right now i am gm stage 2 + 2.80 + airbox mod and i just want to add a 50wet shot like italianjoe1 who has been running 2.80 on gm stage 2 tune for over 40k miles and has been using the 50wet shot for a while now and all he has done now is get hp tuners and raised his limiter to 7,250 i think he told me in a pm.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

what route would be better if you didn't want to spend a lot of money and he saved up that $500 bucks and lets say he can't get money that fast and doesn't feel like dumping more than 2k into his car and he doesn't want over 300hp and doesn't want to break stuff and then end up fixing it and his car not being able to work? you tell me what would be better and then i'll go do that myself.

like i said right now i am gm stage 2 + 2.80 + airbox mod and i just want to add a 50wet shot like italianjoe1 who has been running 2.80 on gm stage 2 tune for over 40k miles and has been using the 50wet shot for a while now and all he has done now is get hp tuners and raised his limiter to 7,250 i think he told me in a pm.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

if your not an idiot and learn how to drive your car which most people don't that i have met. they just floor it through 1st burnout wheel hop and go no where hear the noise of the engine and think there moving all fast and i half throttle it and beat them. if you learn how to drive your car or any high powered car you learn to feather the clutch or the gas and you will learn to keep it on the ground. otherwise you can always go off hopes and dreams and just pray it doesn't spin into outer space.

Originally Posted by lsjwannabe

or just not go with the stg3 at all becuase it is worthless

Originally Posted by CBodnar

wrong. with the setup i listed + the 50shot you can raise it 250 so your redline is 7,250 and the car works fine and is strong. other members have done it and dyno'd there car's and ran it it works fine. if you raise it to 8k rpm's then yes sir you will need to do some engine work

Originally Posted by CBodnar

maybe i am

no he does not run stage3 ecu that's why i said he used hp tuners and raised his limiter recently to 7,250 or something higher. blah he has hit over 300 to the wheels and hasn't really spent that much money or if u were to duplicate what he did you can ask him and he will guide you with a way to hit 300 hp w/o spending much. otherwise we can just follow you and go blow our money like you did on stage2 or like i did lol. i spent only $400 for a brand new kit so i can't bash myself that bad.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

maybe i am

no he does not run stage3 ecu that's why i said he used hp tuners and raised his limiter recently to 7,250 or something higher. blah he has hit over 300 to the wheels and hasn't really spent that much money or if u were to duplicate what he did you can ask him and he will guide you with a way to hit 300 hp w/o spending much. otherwise we can just follow you and go blow our money like you did on stage2 or like i did lol. i spent only $400 for a brand new kit so i can't bash myself that bad.

Originally Posted by CBodnar

then i know i spent over $2k in parts. even if i overnighted them from japan

only other way that can happen is if you had some crazy ass weird tires that made that happen hahahah idk man lol. too much power. how much power can the balt really get on the street and still get traction?

Originally Posted by CBodnar

then i know i spent over $2k in parts. even if i overnighted them from japan

only other way that can happen is if you had some crazy ass weird tires that made that happen hahahah idk man lol. too much power. how much power can the balt really get on the street and still get traction?

Originally Posted by domin8_gt

i think the correct question ask in this situation is how do you mod so that you can get your power to the ground without hopping. amount of power is not the issue if you have done everything else the right way.