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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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quick question....

people on this forum have said before, that in a race, a stock cobalt(SS super) and a stock SRT-4 would be a tie, depending on both drivers....my question is, how would it be close if the 05 cobalt has 205 hp and the 05 SRT-4 has 230 hp....anyone know?
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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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alot of people have beaten srt's with their balts, its a drivers race... a good driver in the srt should be the cobalt.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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uhhh, lot of things really.

first of all, i don't htink it would be that close... every time i've seen these cars square off, one always seems to romp the other.

also, most stock SS/SC's seem to put down a little more than advertised.
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Old May 18, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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stock for stock the srt4 should win, but they are tricky to drive so a good balt driver could win, but i would bet on the dodge with equal drivers
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Old May 19, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ChopCity88
how would it be close if the 05 cobalt has 205 hp and the 05 SRT-4 has 230 hp....anyone know?
All things being equal, a stock SRT-4 should beat a stock SC every time.

Yes, the 205hp in the SC is underrated. Problem is though, the 230hp in the SRT is also underrated.

So basically you've got two cars that weigh the same, with flywheel hp being around 220hp in the SC and about 250hp in the SRT.

But a Stage 2 SC evens things up (plus Stage 2 is still warrantied, whereas no Stage kits for the SRT are covered under the Manufacturer's Basic Warranty).

A way to end the controversy would be to match these cars on the same dyno, on the same day.

Has anyone done this?

Does anyone know someone who has a stock SRT-4 who'd be willing to do some friendly dyno testing against a stock or stock + stage 2 SC?


I'd love to see it!
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Old May 19, 2008 | 11:09 AM
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near bone stock i ran a 14.9 on a horrible one run b4 the track closed...then again you get the stock s/c balts that are dyno puttin down less than the 205 rated...so i think it depends on the balt from factory....tho either way the SRT is puttin more down from factory
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Old May 19, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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.... either way the SRT is puttin more down from factory
I agree, though I'd like to see exactly how much difference there is ...
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Old May 19, 2008 | 11:18 AM
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the SRT4 should beat the cobalt stock for stock w/ equal drivers. but what should happen hardly ever does a stock ss/sc can beat a stock srt4
the coblat put down like 210-215 whp stock and the srt is like what 240 whp i think.
i raced an str4 w/ an intake last night. from 20-110 i had about 2 1/2 cars on him. my mods intake full 2.5" exhaust highflow cat and a tune
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Just because it is putting down a number doesnt mean anything, I am putting down 145 net, my buddy's v6 tiburon is putting out 220(with mods) and I have beat him about 6 times now...
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tru2nrtt777
Just because it is putting down a number doesnt mean anything, I am putting down 145 net, my buddy's v6 tiburon is putting out 220(with mods) and I have beat him about 6 times now...
hmmmmm...
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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i beat a v6 tiburon with my stock LS
the tiburon's are the fastest looking slow cars ever!
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Old May 19, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
All things being equal, a stock SRT-4 should beat a stock SC every time.

Yes, the 205hp in the SC is underrated. Problem is though, the 230hp in the SRT is also underrated.

So basically you've got two cars that weigh the same, with flywheel hp being around 220hp in the SC and about 250hp in the SRT.

But a Stage 2 SC evens things up (plus Stage 2 is still warrantied, whereas no Stage kits for the SRT are covered under the Manufacturer's Basic Warranty).

A way to end the controversy would be to match these cars on the same dyno, on the same day.

Has anyone done this?

Does anyone know someone who has a stock SRT-4 who'd be willing to do some friendly dyno testing against a stock or stock + stage 2 SC?


I'd love to see it!


Thats more like at the wheels.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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i'll race a stg 2 cobalt. it wont be pretty
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
i'll race a stg 2 cobalt. it wont be pretty
well, of course not... i've never seen a pretty neon.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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lmao^^^^^^^^^^
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Old May 19, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by joeworkstoohard
well, of course not... i've never seen a pretty neon.

HaHaHaHaHa!
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Old May 19, 2008 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
i'll race a stg 2 cobalt. it wont be pretty
you aren't stock. go race a turbo or tvs cobalt.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 10:22 PM
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oh sick burn, sick burn.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 12:14 AM
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oh sick burn, sick burn.
Look!

<<<<<Dodge forgot to paint the hood of his car.

Or was that an option?
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Old May 20, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
Look!

<<<<<Dodge forgot to paint the hood of his car.

Or was that an option?
u dont have to worrie bout the hood..it will be infront of u,so you wont see it as much..the trunk is black as well,so they might have forgot that as well
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Old May 20, 2008 | 02:19 AM
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Super_SS
u dont have to worrie bout the hood..it will be infront of u
^Only if we're racing in reverse!

Don't come to a 'Balt Forum and bust chops and not expect to get thoroughly trashed.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanfrank
^Only if we're racing in reverse!

Don't come to a 'Balt Forum and bust chops and not expect to get thoroughly trashed.
ive been on here longer than you have,and have owned a balt,but had to many problems with it so i let it go and went to the dark side
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ecotecon18s
hmmmmm...
What? I have timeslips.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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A stock SS/SC is about 245~250chp. A stock SRT4 is about 260~270chp.

SS/SC has a power curve advantage and gearing advantage (other than 1st). SRT4 is setup for straight line, and though it doesn't have as broad a power curve, it has a lot higher torque through it's peak range (partially offset by gearing though).

All things being equal, stock to stock, the SRT4 will win. But the drivers will never be equal, so which ever is the better driver will win most of the time, with an advantage going to the SRT4.
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