So get this. 1998. That was the last time that I bought a car just for me. It was mine. Of course I wasn't married yet so I had free reign... could pick what ever I wanted without consequences.

Fast forward to 6 months ago. I'm starting to think that it's about time to think about another personal car. Something just for me. Something fun... something hot. Something Corvette. But hey, I'm married now with 2 kids. I need to be practical, right? And I couldn't just get a Vette... it'd have to be a Z06... or worse.

Then I began to think about the Camaro. Fun, hot, half the price of the Vette and I can throw the kids in the back. Problem is, summer is here and there's no Camaro. Next best thing? Pontiac G8. But there's yet another problem... two actually. There's clearly going to be a GXP, but it isn't here now. And can I really settle for the GT and get wasted by some Joe in a SRT-8?... not liking that idea. Also, this thing sucks gas. I'm not liking 22mpg hwy for a car that I'd like to drive to the office all summer. Heck, the Vette does much better.

So I have a delima. I have to find a car that meets all of these requirements: Fun, hot, cheap, good gas mileage and have the ability to throw the kids in the back.

In walk Chevy Cobalt SS. It seems to do it all. It's fun, fast, cheap, economical and hey, there's a back seat!

The Problem: It just isn't fair that I would buy a brand new 'just for me' car and leave the wife out. Of course it doesn't count that I bought a brand new Saturn Vue Redline for her to use just two years ago. So here I am, scheduled to sign the papers on my Cobalt SS today (which BTW the car has not arrived at the dealership yet). I'm at work and I get a call... the wife is at the dealership looking at a new vehicle... a family vehicle. Wanna take a guess what she picked?

OK this story is getting too long... but you should all be aware. The purchasing of a brand new Cobalt SS Turbo can lead to this. Currently, at this very moment sitting in my garage is a 2008 fully loaded $55,000 Chevrolet Suburban with all of it's gloriousness and it's 19mpg... but no Cobalt.

Everyone... beware.

So get this. 1998. That was the last time that I bought a car just for me. It was mine. Of course I wasn't married yet so I had free reign... could pick what ever I wanted without consequences.

Fast forward to 6 months ago. I'm starting to think that it's about time to think about another personal car. Something just for me. Something fun... something hot. Something Corvette. But hey, I'm married now with 2 kids. I need to be practical, right? And I couldn't just get a Vette... it'd have to be a Z06... or worse.

Then I began to think about the Camaro. Fun, hot, half the price of the Vette and I can throw the kids in the back. Problem is, summer is here and there's no Camaro. Next best thing? Pontiac G8. But there's yet another problem... two actually. There's clearly going to be a GXP, but it isn't here now. And can I really settle for the GT and get wasted by some Joe in a SRT-8?... not liking that idea. Also, this thing sucks gas. I'm not liking 22mpg hwy for a car that I'd like to drive to the office all summer. Heck, the Vette does much better.

So I have a delima. I have to find a car that meets all of these requirements: Fun, hot, cheap, good gas mileage and have the ability to throw the kids in the back.

In walk Chevy Cobalt SS. It seems to do it all. It's fun, fast, cheap, economical and hey, there's a back seat!

The Problem: It just isn't fair that I would buy a brand new 'just for me' car and leave the wife out. Of course it doesn't count that I bought a brand new Saturn Vue Redline for her to use just two years ago. So here I am, scheduled to sign the papers on my Cobalt SS today (which BTW the car has not arrived at the dealership yet). I'm at work and I get a call... the wife is at the dealership looking at a new vehicle... a family vehicle. Wanna take a guess what she picked?

OK this story is getting too long... but you should all be aware. The purchasing of a brand new Cobalt SS Turbo can lead to this. Currently, at this very moment sitting in my garage is a 2008 fully loaded $55,000 Chevrolet Suburban with all of it's gloriousness and it's 19mpg... but no Cobalt.

Everyone... beware.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK sorry dood, how much was the gas guzzler tax?

wowzers

dammmnnn.... u got burned...

Fortunately, there is no gas guzzler on the Suburban... really strange. Probably because it's a flexfuel. Dealer filled it up for me today, warning me that it cost them $115.

And just so you know, the Cobalt is still on it's way. Just not here now. (I wasn't going to get nothing out of the deal.)

Fortunately, there is no gas guzzler on the Suburban... really strange. Probably because it's a flexfuel. Dealer filled it up for me today, warning me that it cost them $115.

And just so you know, the Cobalt is still on it's way. Just not here now. (I wasn't going to get nothing out of the deal.)

aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh i see! nice

she should have gotten a tahoe, for 2 kids thats more than enought room or even a trailblazer

i just think the new tahoes are tight as hell

i'm jealous and feel bad for you all at the same time

both of you got what you wanted!!:twothumbs

We looked at the Tahoe. They only had white and none had Nav. The Suburban was only $5k more and had an extra bedroom in the back.

have fun with that...its probably the only one theyve sold in months lol (due to gas prices) very nice trucks though

both of you got what you wanted!!:twothumbs

Nah... I still don't get a Vette. But I'm sure the Cobalt will be a blast. And I'll feel less guilty for abusing it.

BTW. I was completely up front with the dealership about my aftermarket intentions wanting to get their reaction. Their response was pretty much 'Cool!' They said that there'd be no problem. The service manager was great. Totally understood that these cars are going to be messed with. He was kind of a big kid himself.

have fun with that...its probably the only one theyve sold in months lol (due to gas prices) very nice trucks though

Actually, this morning they had 8 on the lot. By the end of the day they had 3. Sold a lot of Tahoes and trucks as well. This 72mo. 0% interest is a big kick in the pants. Was really what sealed the deal for us. Managed to get our payments down to $700/mo with GMS and a nice down payment.

Why stick with Vue that should have plenty of room for all, when you can get a big ass suburban to fit the entire neighborhood in? They still charged you $55K even though they can't give them away and the 72 hr sale?

congrats on your new cars. and ya you'll have fun with the cobalt and as you start modding it, you'll only have more fun. and get real buddy buddy with that service manager as he sounds like he could save you alot of money and pain in the future.

yea but that 5K for the burban could have been 5K for mods on the balt....... and i personally like the tahoe but................

NEW AMERICAN CARS FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He said that as long as I always have it serviced there I could just about get away with whatever I wanted... shy of replacing that bottom end.

Oh and a big heads up. If you're thinking about the extended bumper to bumper, you should all know that our dual-scroll turbo is not covered under the 100,000 mi. drivetrain waranty as it is not part of the 'sealed' engine. Apparently they regard it as any other accessory, ie. alternator. Only it's about a $1200 alternator. Apparently this little bugger is some pricey piece of hardware.

I still don't understand why she got a suburban? I mean, were you all in dire need of another car? Couldn't she have waited till the dealer had something smaller? ie. Tahoe?

DAMN...$700/month, $115 to fill ever other day lol, holy shit that sucks, sorry bro.

If I were you bro I would tell wifey to try and take the guzzler back!

I almost left my wife years ago when she used to play the "if you get that, I get this" game.
its bullshit. nip it in the bud before it gets (even more) out of control.

Nah... it's what she's wanted for years. I kind of saw it comming. We're taking it on a 500 mile trip tomorrow. We'll see how bad it really does. Time to whip out the high miling techniques. We use to get 19 on the highway with her parents 04' Suburban. Hoping to see at least 22 during the cruise.

I'm out. Early morning.

Nah... it's what she's wanted for years. I kind of saw it comming. We're taking it on a 500 mile trip tomorrow. We'll see how bad it really does. Time to whip out the high miling techniques. We use to get 19 on the highway with her parents 04' Suburban. Hoping to see at least 22 during the cruise.

I'm out. Early morning.

hehe wow...

the night we bought the monte carlo, we drove it chicago for the weekend, we live near detroit... its a 5 hour trip, we did it in 3.5 lmao....... buried the speedo with mom sleeping in the back seat while me and dad laughed our asses off up front. we left detroit at 9:30, were in chicago at 2 even tho we got lost looking for our hotel (no directions FTL) and went to eat

but yea good luck with the gas, new cars are not good but not bad on gas

gee, wonder what the kids would rather ride in?;)

One other thing that sucks is now after you took it home the suburban is now worth half that. Make sure you get gap insurance.

... Currently, at this very moment sitting in my garage is a 2008 fully loaded $55,000 Chevrolet Suburban with all of it's gloriousness and it's 19mpg... but no Cobalt.

Marriage/Family is a life long lesson in sacrifice.

But sorry man, I can't see how a $55,000 Suburban in an age of skyrocketing fuel prices sacrifices much of anything.

There are tons and tons of less expensive vehicles available that could haul around a small family, so you've obviously got the extra $$ to spend.

So why are you :cry: over a 'lil $24k car?

Its why wedding rings feel so tight.. like hands around our neck. They own us.

Moral of the story - Wife wins, all the time. At all costs.

No way in hell she'd do that without discussing it first. Thats like you coming home with a ZR1, without telling her!

Some bend more than others, I'd be laying down the law, pussy or no pussy. LOL

http://nomarriage.com/

oh, and who you told you that the turbo isn't covered by the warranty?

Does your wife go to one of those special schools for adults?

we have 30 full size yukons/denalis on my lot at work and NO ONE is even touching them:nono:

Trucks don't have to pay "gas-guzzler" tax, as they WERE NOT MEANT to be personal vehicles. Thus, a loophole was there before they even became trendy. The law is supposedly going to be changed on this soon, but it hasn't yet.

Regardless, if my wife so much as considered WASTING money on something like a Fully Loaded Suburban (when all she really needed was an HHR), She'd get an earful.

Although, MY wife would NEVER consider such a thing in the first place.

Hope you realize that $55k truck has already depreciated down to $35k. Good luck with that.

Maybe this thread should go in the "Epic Fail" thread :rolleyes:

So get this. 1998. That was the last time that I bought a car just for me. It was mine. Of course I wasn't married yet so I had free reign... could pick what ever I wanted without consequences.

Fast forward to 6 months ago. I'm starting to think that it's about time to think about another personal car. Something just for me. Something fun... something hot. Something Corvette. But hey, I'm married now with 2 kids. I need to be practical, right? And I couldn't just get a Vette... it'd have to be a Z06... or worse.

Then I began to think about the Camaro. Fun, hot, half the price of the Vette and I can throw the kids in the back. Problem is, summer is here and there's no Camaro. Next best thing? Pontiac G8. But there's yet another problem... two actually. There's clearly going to be a GXP, but it isn't here now. And can I really settle for the GT and get wasted by some Joe in a SRT-8?... not liking that idea. Also, this thing sucks gas. I'm not liking 22mpg hwy for a car that I'd like to drive to the office all summer. Heck, the Vette does much better.

So I have a delima. I have to find a car that meets all of these requirements: Fun, hot, cheap, good gas mileage and have the ability to throw the kids in the back.

In walk Chevy Cobalt SS. It seems to do it all. It's fun, fast, cheap, economical and hey, there's a back seat!

The Problem: It just isn't fair that I would buy a brand new 'just for me' car and leave the wife out. Of course it doesn't count that I bought a brand new Saturn Vue Redline for her to use just two years ago. So here I am, scheduled to sign the papers on my Cobalt SS today (which BTW the car has not arrived at the dealership yet). I'm at work and I get a call... the wife is at the dealership looking at a new vehicle... a family vehicle. Wanna take a guess what she picked?

OK this story is getting too long... but you should all be aware. The purchasing of a brand new Cobalt SS Turbo can lead to this. Currently, at this very moment sitting in my garage is a 2008 fully loaded $55,000 Chevrolet Suburban with all of it's gloriousness and it's 19mpg... but no Cobalt.

Everyone... beware.

I did just the opposite... My wife had an '03 Envoy that was coning off lease in 9/06. At the time she was 4 month prego with our second son so we knew we needed something bigger. We wound up with an '07 Tahoe then in 5/07 I could no longer afford to feed my '03 ranger $37 a day in fuel so I broke down and bought a Cobalt SS S/C... Welcome to Chevy extremes club brother. :)

My dad works at a dealership and no one is buying trucks/SUVs or anything that gets under 20mpg but every one is trading them in. Allot of people are getting pissed because they think there 40k vehicle is worth alot more than the dealer will give them. The more of that type of vehicle they have on the lot the less they give you on the trade in regardless of what kbb or any of the other pricing guides say. The more gas sucking options you have the more they take off(bigger tires/wheels, lifts, etc). Last year a guy bought a 40k plus truck and put about 20-30k miles on it and the dealer would only give him 9k for it. He said that they have TONS of 07-08 trucks sitting on there lot for under 13k. My point of all this gibber is to say this shit is just getting out of hand and we need to at least get something stabilized before we can't even afford to drive. For some reason it seems to affect the people in the states more, because the people in canada have been paying these high prices for years and haven't really driven there economy into a recession. Sorry not really trying to thread jack.

I'd be calling a divorce attorney. :cussing:

This thread is awesome lol.

I would have killed her. Is she even aware of how high gas is getting and what MPG those things get?? Forget E85 crap. That doesn't mean shit. Especially now that corn has skyrocketed after Iowa went swimming.

:lol:

And that's the lowest she could talk them down on the price?? She screwed you both my man. I've seen them go for 40k NEW.

:lol: ouch!

But yeah she should've settled on a Trailblazer.

Should have bought a low mileage LS2 GTO 6 Speed. 26+ MPG on the highway.

damn lol at least you got the car keep us updated

:lol: ouch!

But yeah she should've settled on a Trailblazer.
hell yeah....a dime a dozen

hell yeah....a dime a dozen

Hell I'd say the new malibu 4banger would be a better deal, they are really big on the interior and MPG is alot better than a tahoe or trailblazer.

Our Tahoe isn't that bad, it averages about 13mpg with old light to light lead foor driving it every day... When I drive it I average about 19ish

I did just the opposite... My wife had an '03 Envoy that was coning off lease in 9/06. At the time she was 4 month prego with our second son so we knew we needed something bigger.

I hope you don't honestly believe this bullshit. IF you and your wife needed a bigger vehicle, then you should have had at least 4 children at that point. Two adults and two kids fit great in a Cobalt. If you honestly feel otherwise, it's just your ego talking, get over yourself.

Hell I'd say the new malibu 4banger would be a better deal, they are really big on the interior and MPG is alot better than a tahoe or trailblazer.

Exactly.

I hope you don't honestly believe this bullshit. IF you and your wife needed a bigger vehicle, then you should have had at least 4 children at that point. Two adults and two kids fit great in a Cobalt. If you honestly feel otherwise, it's just your ego talking, get over yourself.



Exactly.

100% agreed!

55 G's for a suburban is fucking stupid... at my work we can get New fully loaded dodge durangos for DIRT CHEAP!

I hope you don't honestly believe this bullshit. IF you and your wife needed a bigger vehicle, then you should have had at least 4 children at that point. Two adults and two kids fit great in a Cobalt. If you honestly feel otherwise, it's just your ego talking, get over yourself.


Yeah right, You are talking about my wife... The back of the Tahoe is filled with a dbl stroller, a single stroller, an umbrella stroller, two booster seats, a portable potty and potty seat along with a complete days supply of toys, diapers and clothes for both kids... I will give you $1000 if you can fit all that crap in a cobalt with two adults and two children... BTW, the TV and DVD player alone is worth it... :)

55 G's for a suburban is fucking stupid... at my work we can get New fully loaded dodge durangos for DIRT CHEAP!

Some people have more money than brains these days.

And after that 55K dollar Suburban you ended up with a fucking cobalt. LOL Epic Fail.

Yeah right, You are talking about my wife... The back of the Tahoe is filled with a dbl stroller, a single stroller, an umbrella stroller, two booster seats, a portable potty and potty seat along with a complete days supply of toys, diapers and clothes for both kids... I will give you $1000 if you can fit all that crap in a cobalt with two adults and two children... BTW, the TV and DVD player alone is worth it... :)

Sounds like you need to get your wife in line.

TV and DVD fit into the Cobalt just fine. Hell, I've watched my first movie in a vehicle in a the back of Geo Metro.

But seriously, your wife sounds like a spoiled brat.

Sounds like you need to get your wife in line.

TV and DVD fit into the Cobalt just fine. Hell, I've watched my first movie in a vehicle in a the back of Geo Metro.

But seriously, your wife sounds like a spoiled brat.

I talked her into the Tahoe, she wanted a Toyota Sequoia. I will not put my kids in the back of a roller skate...

I talked her into the Tahoe, she wanted a Toyota Sequoia. I will not put my kids in the back of a roller skate...

Well, I have to give you some credit then. I really feel when can blame a lot of our problems today on the fact that it IS WOMEN who DON'T know anything about cars that are buying these Camrys, Accords, Corollas, etc, etc., and they really do believe all the marketing hype.

Brainwashing FTW!!! UGH!

http://nomarriage.com/



Fantastic site. I just spent two hours reading just about every word. Ammunition for Christmas time.

I'd be calling a divorce attorney. :cussing:

X2 :lol:

Man thats crazy shit! If you have the people mover why not get a Z06 then? Who says you have to take kids in both cars?

http://machetera.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/slap.jpg

^^^^HAHAHA rofl

seriously though, why the hell do all these women love driving these big ass suv's when none of them can drive worth a crap to begin with?

Your story sounds kinda familiar to what I'm going through, except I already own a 2006 SS/SC and a 2007 SS/NA sedan. I mde the mistake of showing my wife the 2009 SS/TC sedan. Now she wants one bad. I think that because she (very likely) will be getting one I want to upgrade too. Fortunately, most of my mods will carry over to the SS/TC if I get one. Ingall's just confirmed that the ETD for the SS/SC will work on the SS/TC.

Fortunately, there is no gas guzzler on the Suburban... really strange. Probably because it's a flexfuel. Dealer filled it up for me today, warning me that it cost them $115.

And just so you know, the Cobalt is still on it's way. Just not here now. (I wasn't going to get nothing out of the deal.)

After reading your first post, I was like PUSSY WHIPPED!!! But since your married we know you can't be pussy whipped...:lol: Now that I see you are still getting a SS/TC, I had to retract all of those thoughts and just say, good job man, your a good husband to your wife. :twothumbs

Why is it that they get the $45,000 SUV and we get the $20,000 compact and we still get ZERO ass? She got the 5.7L Hemi 4x4 Overland Grand Cherokee which cost just $1500 MORE than the SRT-8, I can only assume it is because of the rear entertainment and NAV system. Meanwhile I'm driving a 06 2.4 SS that cost 18,000. I would so be getting a Vette in 3 years after both of these are paid off if I didn't know that gas will be flippin 6 or 7 dollars a gallon by then........

Wtf?!?!?

holy fuck..

congrats on both rides but holy fuck, all that $$$ all at once? eeeep

Oh and a big heads up. If you're thinking about the extended bumper to bumper, you should all know that our dual-scroll turbo is not covered under the 100,000 mi. drivetrain waranty as it is not part of the 'sealed' engine. Apparently they regard it as any other accessory, ie. alternator. Only it's about a $1200 alternator. Apparently this little bugger is some pricey piece of hardware.


I'd love to see that in writing, in some fine print somewhere, because...

WHAT IS COVERED
Engine
Cylinder head and block
All internally lubricated parts
Manifolds
Timing gears and timing cover
Timing belt (until the first scheduled maintenance interval)
Flywheel
Oil pump/oil pump housing, water pump and fuel pump
Harmonic balancer
OHC carriers
Valve covers
Oil pan
Engine mount
Seals and gaskets
Turbocharger or supercharger
Fuel systems

I dont get why people are still buying these big ass trucks?

wow, all I can say is wow. I have to admit that I"m actually shopping for a 3/4 ton diesel, or a big 8 4x4. I need this truck for what I do, my 1/2 ton 4x4 just doesn't cut it. People will still need trucks for what they were intended for, but the days of using them as a sports car are gone.

Well our big ass truck has never been farther than about 20 miles from the house and her work commute is less than 5 miles round trip, so gas mileage isn't really an issue, because there isn't any mileage, 4000 miles in 8 months is like 500 a month @ 14 miles to the gallon is 35.7 gallons @ 4.30 a gallon = $153 in gas a month. I do about 1130 in the cobalt a month so that comes out to about $195 a month with 24 avg mpg.

holy fuck..

congrats on both rides but holy fuck, all that $$$ all at once? eeeep

Thats why people make payments.

wow i would have shot wifey and buried her in the desert.

He said that as long as I always have it serviced there I could just about get away with whatever I wanted... shy of replacing that bottom end.

Oh and a big heads up. If you're thinking about the extended bumper to bumper, you should all know that our dual-scroll turbo is not covered under the 100,000 mi. drivetrain waranty as it is not part of the 'sealed' engine. Apparently they regard it as any other accessory, ie. alternator. Only it's about a $1200 alternator. Apparently this little bugger is some pricey piece of hardware.

it's says on the GMPP paperwork that the turbos are part of the 'fuel system' only covered for 36K, so you need the multi year warranty either at purchase or within 36K/36 months.

If you need a good deal on the GMPP try Fichtner chevy at gmpp@fichtnerchevrolet.com

thanks for the headsup, regardless it's not /drive train/ warranty :-)

i see this car as a five year sponsorship from GM to go to track days and weekends :-)

thanks GM - I needed a sponsor, now find me a good deal on tires and brake pads :-)

JK

put this in another thread:

What does the The Chevy 100,000-Mile Warranty include?
In general, the powertrain warranty covers the engine, transmission, transfer case and axle assemblies on light duty vehicles as indicated below:

* Engine
Cylinder head, block, timing gears, timing chain, timing cover, oil pump/oil pump housing, OHC carriers, valve covers, oil pan, seals, gaskets, turbocharger, supercharger and all internal lubricated parts as well as manifolds, flywheel, water pump, harmonic balancer and engine mount. Diesel engine coverage includes the timing belts until the first scheduled maintenance interval.


http://www.chevrolet.com/warranty/fr...ked-questions/

55K dood??? F-that....Trailblazer SS FTW!!! more fun than a burban, and plenty of room, and gobs of HP...

wow...all i can say is: WHAT A BITCH!

put this in another thread:

What does the The Chevy 100,000-Mile Warranty include?
In general, the powertrain warranty covers the engine, transmission, transfer case and axle assemblies on light duty vehicles as indicated below:

* Engine
Cylinder head, block, timing gears, timing chain, timing cover, oil pump/oil pump housing, OHC carriers, valve covers, oil pan, seals, gaskets, turbocharger, supercharger and all internal lubricated parts as well as manifolds, flywheel, water pump, harmonic balancer and engine mount. Diesel engine coverage includes the timing belts until the first scheduled maintenance interval.


http://www.chevrolet.com/warranty/fr...ked-questions/

yup, redirecting folks to that - sorry for the hijacked thread :-)

GMPP/Turbo charger discussion
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2531039

JK

OK. So I'm 4 days in and I have to say that I love the vehicle. It really is about the nicest thing, short of an Escalade, that GM makes. Ours has the FlexFuel and the Displacement on Demand which shuts 4 cylinders off. The whole trip I spent searching for a sweet spot. At 70mph the truck averages around 19-20, but will not run in V4 mode on level pavement. Drop down to 60-65 and it's a whole different world. At 65 mph is 22mpg and at 60mph the gas jumped to about 24mpg. For the whole trip we averaged about 21mpg.

The around town stuff is killing me... about 15-16. But then I really wasn't doing any better in our Saturn Vue.

Now I'm searching for a programmer that will let me edit the V4-V8 mode algorithim. I'm thinking that I can push this thing up to a consistant 25 on the hwy.

Hmm.... cake AND eat it too.

More later... the features are amazing.

um i would have slapped a ..... "life is too short to be driving around in cars that wont provide enjoyment"

slap the bitch from east to west with your left hand, and slap her again going to other way. then punch her in the nose, wait until you can see blood coming out her nose, then CUNT PUNT THE BIATCH.

OK... as an update. My Cobalt was build on the week of June 9th. As of today, my car still has not arrived yet. The same day that the dealer ordered my car, they ordered another one... same options minus the Limited Slip...(of course).

Guess which one showed up today?

They're trying to talk me into taking the one that they have in stock. Who in their right mind would want one of these cars WITHOUT a limited slip?

Anyway, I'm gonna go test drive this thing and drive the hell out of it. Call it my warm up. Then I'm gonna tell them NO and demand that they tint my windows and install the carbon fiber trim kit for my patience.

man, shit happens, I wouldn't go around demanding this and that, its really not the dealerships fault the car isn't here, they are used to a few weeks for a car to arrive, not months

be patient or find a car that you want thats there now, don't go abusing something that someone on the board might end up buying, its just immature

OK... as an update. My Cobalt was build on the week of June 9th. As of today, my car still has not arrived yet. The same day that the dealer ordered my car, they ordered another one... same options minus the Limited Slip...(of course).

Guess which one showed up today?

They're trying to talk me into taking the one that they have in stock. Who in their right mind would want one of these cars WITHOUT a limited slip?

Anyway, I'm gonna go test drive this thing and drive the hell out of it. Call it my warm up. Then I'm gonna tell them NO and demand that they tint my windows and install the carbon fiber trim kit for my patience.

I wouldn't go an fuck with someone else's brand new car just because you're pissed.

The other stuff...sure...but no need to abuse a car someone else will buy.

That's not the point. He's already begun hassling me about how unimportant that limited slip is. And I know that no amount of talking is going to convince him.

take the shit back...who pays for it? you or her?

That's not the point. He's already begun hassling me about how unimportant that limited slip is. And I know that no amount of talking is going to convince him.

well then ignore him til your car comes in

take the shit back...who pays for it? you or her?

Too late for that man. Already a done deal. we've got close to 2k miles on it at this point. BTW, if anyone else ever gets a 5.3L Burb or Tahoe, get the HPTuners VCM suite. I found out last week that the Active Fuel Management will only engage below 6% TPS but with HPTuners you can adjust this to what ever variable you want. At 10% we're averaging almost 24mpg hwy. Not bad for a 5700lb beast.

well then ignore him til your car comes in

Ask him for a solid explanation on why? Then call him out on being an idiot.

Well, I went to the dealership yesterday and they actually had two in... a black one without the LSD and a Yellow one with it. I took the Yellow one out for about 15-20 minutes then came back and picked up my salesman to go for a ride. Then we came back and took the black one for a drive.

First impression. By far the most noticeable aspect of the car is the handling. It is very tight. I love the no-lift shift but am a bit concerned as there was severe bang into the next gear. I'm sure that some of this is simply getting a feel for the system and determining the best shift point. I was shifting just before hitting the rev-limiter. It was very fast. Not smooth, but fast.

Launch control was neat, but useless. I couldn't figure out a way to use launch control while disabling traction control. And with traction control engaged, dumping the clutch on launch control immediately results in excessive wheelspin which shuts the system down. The first time I did it I thought the car had stalled.

Using launch control in the car without the LSD was very much the same but, as expected, there was some noticeable torque steer.

I made a huge mistake before driving this car. I let my brother, who just purchased an EVO X, take me for a ride. I didn't think that it would have been that big of an issue, but he has already installed a cat back which was supposedly good for 30+hp. That car pulls hard. Amazingly so. The Cobalt doesn't feel nearly as fast, but I'm going to chalk it up to vehicle dynamics.

What I love about this car: Driving the Evo is much the standard fare. You learn the car, get a feel for its nuances and come to understand its characteristics... much as you would with any other car. Certainly it's fast and handles extremely well. But as with any other sports car you have a sense that you are piloting a vehicle. The Cobalt is much different. It weighs so much less. The first thing I realized when driving the Cobalt was that it didn't really feel like I was driving, but more like I had put on a suit. It really felt like I was wearing it and it became an extension of my body. I wasn't along for the ride, I was the ride. Big props to GM for this... they did an amazing job with the feel of this car.

BTW... the sales guy now has a clear understanding as to why the LSD is so important. He was the one who placed the order for these and he said that from here on out all of their cars would have the LSD.

If anyone is in the Kansas City area and is in the market for a SS/TC, Heartland Chevrolet in Liberty has a loaded Yellow one on the lot right now.

You're in the KC area? What part man? Hopefully things unfold nicely in the next couple of months so my SS/TC will be in my driveway before long. School is kicking my ass currently, but after things settle down, SS/TC it will be! I hate driving my shitty explorer around compared to my old SS lol

Well, I went to the dealership yesterday and they actually had two in... a black one without the LSD and a Yellow one with it. I took the Yellow one out for about 15-20 minutes then came back and picked up my salesman to go for a ride. Then we came back and took the black one for a drive.

First impression. By far the most noticeable aspect of the car is the handling. It is very tight. I love the no-lift shift but am a bit concerned as there was severe bang into the next gear. I'm sure that some of this is simply getting a feel for the system and determining the best shift point. I was shifting just before hitting the rev-limiter. It was very fast. Not smooth, but fast.

Launch control was neat, but useless. I couldn't figure out a way to use launch control while disabling traction control. And with traction control engaged, dumping the clutch on launch control immediately results in excessive wheelspin which shuts the system down. The first time I did it I thought the car had stalled.

Using launch control in the car without the LSD was very much the same but, as expected, there was some noticeable torque steer.

I made a huge mistake before driving this car. I let my brother, who just purchased an EVO X, take me for a ride. I didn't think that it would have been that big of an issue, but he has already installed a cat back which was supposedly good for 30+hp. That car pulls hard. Amazingly so. The Cobalt doesn't feel nearly as fast, but I'm going to chalk it up to vehicle dynamics.

What I love about this car: Driving the Evo is much the standard fare. You learn the car, get a feel for its nuances and come to understand its characteristics... much as you would with any other car. Certainly it's fast and handles extremely well. But as with any other sports car you have a sense that you are piloting a vehicle. The Cobalt is much different. It weighs so much less. The first thing I realized when driving the Cobalt was that it didn't really feel like I was driving, but more like I had put on a suit. It really felt like I was wearing it and it became an extension of my body. I wasn't along for the ride, I was the ride. Big props to GM for this... they did an amazing job with the feel of this car.

BTW... the sales guy now has a clear understanding as to why the LSD is so important. He was the one who placed the order for these and he said that from here on out all of their cars would have the LSD.

If anyone is in the Kansas City area and is in the market for a SS/TC, Heartland Chevrolet in Liberty has a loaded Yellow one on the lot right now.


You were complaining because your car wasnt hear yet, but when 2 came in and one had LSD, why didnt you take the one with LSD? What color are you looking for?

24 MPG in a suburban? Wow!

I still would have made her get a Subaru Outback instead.

You can't just DUMP the clutch. You need to feather it a bit. This isn't a damn Ferrari! :lol:

At least you have that GN...