hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?

I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol

here is setup:

Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)

T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE

40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI

turbo BOV

all the lines and what ever

then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR

along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator

new injecors and clip

Front mount intercooler

now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question? :)

hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?

I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol

here is setup:

Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)

T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE

40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI

turbo BOV

all the lines and what ever

then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR

along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator

new injecors and clip

Front mount intercooler

now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question? :)

Not too sure where to start, but my best guess is get a 2.2-2.4 intake and TB (not sure if they'd fit, just an Idea) or wield up your own custom intake and slap the TB unit onto it.

After that make your turbo fit... find a nice large intercooler to cool the charge, and purchase the stage 1 kit for the reflash... you might notice a happier revving engine with the S/C gone considering it's not robbing power to spin that pulley.

My guess that if you plugged the right plugs, and fitted the right fittings, (AKA maf translator) the Computer wouldn't notice the SC was gone.

sounds good.......I may go this route unless stage 2 is promising, if i decide to go turbo i gotta get all peices together, ill prob just get a loan :twothumbs

sounds good.......I may go this route unless stage 2 is promising, if i decide to go turbo i gotta get all peices together, ill prob just get a loan :twothumbs

No way man think like a shadetree mechanic... you can find a turbo from an 84 T-bird (Super 60) at the junkyard and rebuild it... get your friend to make a custom flange and manifold to fit onto the turbo and you've maybe spent a total of 3-400 beans on just the mount itself.

Don't go cheap on the coolant and oil lines though, get braided lines... safest bet.

You can polish regular exhaust pipe for intercooler piping,(mandrel bent is best) it'll look nice and cost half of what you would buy from a vendor... and buy industrial rad hose to use as connectors... :lol:

All this knowledge brought to you by your former Turbododge owner (Daytonas, LeBarons, Shadows, etc.)

buy-em cheap, build-em cheap, and break them even cheaper!

first off...i would not boost that high consistantly unless you think you stock internals can take it.....if theycant upgrade them before anything. or run low psi.

ide probably run it on 18 psi until some internals are made then up it

Why would you want to turbo the 2.0?

If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.

Why would you want to turbo the 2.0?

If your serious about the turbo, pull out the 2.0 and sell it with the blower attached. Drop in the 2.4 and put on a good turbo setup. You will make more power and it probably won't cost you anything cause your going to make a good bit of money by selling the 2.0.


becasue the 2.0 allready has the internals to handle FI

It would most likely start as long as you reposition the sensors but the fuel maps would be way off. Youwould need more fuel in the middle RPM's when the turbo spools up. You might be able to drive it around as long as you don't give it all the throttle. How are you going to tune it?

hey guys i have a serious question? If i were to take the supercharger off completly
and throw a T4 on there would my computer know?

I would love to make this setup but i dont want my computer to stop my car when i put it in 1st lol

here is setup:

Custom turbo manifold (got a friend)

T4 turbo-Specs
. 50 A/R COMPRESSOR
.63 A/R TURBINE
.57 TRIM
5 BOLT EXHAUST FLANGE

40 MM WASTEGATE,
WITH ADJUSTABLE BOOST CONTROLLED SPRING
10 Psi TO 18 PsI

turbo BOV

all the lines and what ever

then use this
10:1/12:1 FMU FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR

along with a a piggy back from rey and of the maf translator

new injecors and clip

Front mount intercooler

now if i got this all bolted up perfectly and started it up what would happen i guess that is my question? :)


The best way to go about it is to NOT rip out the blower. Instead, rip out the internals of the blower, but keep the blower's pulley intact. Now the blower is turned into an air intake and you don't have to worry about adding an after market FMIC, because you're keeping all your factory cooling system.

I have also debated switching to a turbo as well....

The best way to go about it is to NOT rip out the blower. Instead, rip out the internals of the blower, but keep the blower's pulley intact. Now the blower is turned into an air intake and you don't have to worry about adding an after market FMIC, because you're keeping all your factory cooling system.

Exactly, GTP guys do this to their M90....

I have also debated switching to a turbo as well....



Exactly, GTP guys do this to their M90....

Cobra guys also do it when converting to turbos. Saves a massive load of work and money. You can also port the hell out of the blower to add a bit more flow. I also want to look into porting out the intake manifold that the blower sits on top of. It seems to be a thick chunk of aluminium that could benefit from porting.

i cant wait to see someone do this

You could look into the Sabb tubo setup.
It's based on the same engine.
2.0-LITER 4-CYLINDER TURBOCHARGED 210HP ENGINE

Engine specifications–2.0T
Type–Inline 4-cylinder turbo
Displacement–121 cu. in. (1988 cc)
SAE horsepower rating–210 hp @ 5500 rpm
SAE peak torque–221 lb. ft. @ 2000 rpm

id use the saab intake it is about 200.00 for it

gutting the blower sound pretty easy route! :) :) :)

sounds good.......I may go this route unless stage 2 is promising, if i decide to go turbo i gotta get all peices together, ill prob just get a loan :twothumbs

ok, i think someone needs to calm down. you only have an ion rl... if you want to put that much money into a car why dont you just by a older cobra or camaro and dump all your cash into that. Im not trying to sound like a dick. My idea is after gm's stage 2, save up for a car thats really worth going crazywith. You know?

i hate when people shoot other peoples ideas down just becuase the car isnt an expensive car, we need to support each other in our ideas

i hate when people shoot other peoples ideas down just becuase the car isnt an expensive car, we need to support each other in our ideas


yea because if he did end up turbo-ing his car it would be somthing different... theres a lot to be said for originality imo.

You need to convert the pulley system to a Saab 2.0t to eliminate the blower pulley. Next get the Hahn intake manifold. Next I suggest a 3071 turbo or a gt30r. Use a SMT6 with 4 extra injectors. You are set.

ok, i think someone needs to calm down. you only have an ion rl... if you want to put that much money into a car why dont you just by a older cobra or camaro and dump all your cash into that. Im not trying to sound like a dick. My idea is after gm's stage 2, save up for a car thats really worth going crazywith. You know?

I like this car thats why i dont liek cobras i like or fors in general

Im a honda boy at heart But i love Gm
i love cavaliers, i love cobalts, i love My REDLINE and i love having a sleeper that if i did indeed turbo it i would beat a cobra ;)

You need to convert the pulley system to a Saab 2.0t to eliminate the blower pulley. Next get the Hahn intake manifold. Next I suggest a 3071 turbo or a gt30r. Use a SMT6 with 4 extra injectors. You are set.


thank you bro ill look into this !

ok, i think someone needs to calm down. you only have an ion rl... if you want to put that much money into a car why dont you just by a older cobra or camaro and dump all your cash into that. Im not trying to sound like a dick. My idea is after gm's stage 2, save up for a car thats really worth going crazywith. You know?


too late?

2003 + saab 2.0 setup.
get everything......intake manifodl turbo manifold and turbo. be sure to get the tdo4 version everything i mean everything shoudl cost you about a grand. no real need for injectors as your injectors are the same used on the saabs.

bam your done

^^^ Where are we going to find these parts? I do not know of any salvage yard around here that would have an 03+ Saab 9-3 Aero....

I like this car thats why i dont liek cobras i like or fors in general

Im a honda boy at heart But i love Gm
i love cavaliers, i love cobalts, i love My REDLINE and i love having a sleeper that if i did indeed turbo it i would beat a cobra ;)

Why don't you just buy a Citation and give it 50 psi of NOS... They won't know what hit em!
http://proactivedesign.net/eric/transportation/art/1984-chevy-citation.jpg

I'd go with the Hahn intake and maybe even the whole Hahn turbo set up for the 2.2 cobalt. I think the T4 turbo would be a little big for the 2.0 engine also, might get slightly more power top end but there would be a lot of lag. I'd go with a T3/T4 hybrid, or the Hahn super 20G.

hahn Super 16G would be perfect...

Why don't you just buy a Citation and give it 50 psi of NOS... They won't know what hit em!
http://proactivedesign.net/eric/transportation/art/1984-chevy-citation.jpg
I love your thinking!!! :lol:

Gutting the blower sounds cool although I have never heard of it before. But I have really never heard of a cobra guy doing it ever. I know plenty of guys with cobras and a few with TT setups and they havent heard of it either. not calling BS just looking for more info thats all.

To the orginal poster...

Are you sure that's a T4 or a T3/T4. Those specs don't sound like the specs of a T40E.

If it is a real T4, they are out of your efficiency range and just plainly are too big for what you need. If you're not pushing 400+ HP, you don't need a T4.

As far as your wastegate, I would stick with something like a 38 MM instead of 40 MM and get a smaller PSI spring and use a boost controller to adjust higher. Aiming for 10 PSI and running 10 PSI all the time might not be in your interest, atleast with the boost controller, you have the option of going higher than your wastegate spring or just staying at the limit of your wastegate spring.

What size injectors are you going to use? What style or brand?

Make sure your friend (the one that's making the manifold) knows exactly what flange style turbo you're getting...whether it is a true T40E or a T3/T40E turbo...they do use 2 different style flanges (T4s have the split style flanges).

What brand FMU are you getting?

I think there is alot more you need to learn about before you jump into this and start buying parts. PLEASE read this...

How To: Build your own ECOTEC turbo kit (http://www.ecotecforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35)

this is the same concept just different motor. just an idea!!!
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/LeoGSVT/fordgt-resize.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/LeoGSVT/gtpic2-resize.jpg
832rwhp and 703trq on 18lbs pump gas!!!!!!
http://www.torquenstein.net/movies/i...n_Turbo_GT.wmv