I searched... if its a repost.... my bad.


http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=46868

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/09/chevy-cruze-to-be-built-in-lordstown/

Inside: http://jalopnik.com/398237/2010-chevy-cruze-shows-off-its-interior

40 MPG http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/14/cobalt-replacing-chevy-cruze-to-get-turbod-1-4-liter-and-40-mpg/

LEAKED PICS!!!!
http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/newgmcars/1002793473

I searched... if its a repost.... my bad.


http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewpressreldetail.do?domain=2&docid=46868

I don't like the spy pics Ive seen.... Sorry to see the cobalt name go

Holy gay name Batman...

**sigh**

Holy gay name Batman...

lol For real! Cruze i think was the name used on that POS from Brazil...

Guess I'll just rebadge it "Cobalt mk2"

Guess I'll just rebadge it "Cobalt mk2"

Lol :cssNET:

Blump

sad to see the Cobalt go so soon. I will keep one forever

Cruze?? What kind of gay name is that? -- "Cobalt?? What kind of gay name is that?" that's what I said when the Cobalt first came out and never thought I'd have one. But it'll take a while to get used to the name...

hmm I wonder what the Chevy Cruze SS Turbocharged will be like....

Cruze?? What kind of gay name is that? -- "Cobalt?? What kind of gay name is that?" that's what I said when the Cobalt first came out and never thought I'd have one. But it'll take a while to get used to the name...

hmm I wonder what the Chevy Cruze SS Turbocharged will be like....

lol, I LOVED the name Cobalt! however I do really hate this name. Sounds gay! :cussing:

Whats up with getting rid of the Cobalt so soon, I mean how many years was the Cavelier around for?

Whats up with getting rid of the Cobalt so soon, I mean how many years was the Cavelier around for?

Lol, bad example. The cavalier has to be one of the Most made fun of cars of all time. It was also never updated and is still considered a joke.

The cobalt has been out since 2005 so I guess 05-10 is a nice little run. :cussing: I would have like for it to stay COBALT THO.


This is all because GM wants to keep the same name for the car around the world which i understand. But I still think Cobalt > Cruze!

http://www.tradecarview.com/stock/detail.aspx?sid=1265638

http://www.tradecarview.com/stock/japan_car/11/4109/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFcjFyEb8U

APPERANTLY BEEN IN JAPAN FOR A LONG TIME (2002)

http://www.tradecarview.com/stock/detail.aspx?sid=1265638

http://www.tradecarview.com/stock/japan_car/11/4109/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GFcjFyEb8U

APPERANTLY BEEN IN JAPAN FOR A LONG TIME (2002)

lol, yea the name. The next gen Cobalt that was made Globaly will just have that name with it. It wont look like tho's POS's lol

Boo Hoo. A name is a name and too many associated Cobalt with Cavalier. With the Beat coming out I guess GM wanted to go with a "hipper" name so they chose Cruze.

Well, if GM is ever looking to establish brand/name recognition, they'd better stop with the revolving door of names for their smaller cars, especially with high gas prices making consumers focus on the B and C segment cars more. Dumping the Cavalier name made sense because keeping it would be like carrying on a bad legacy, no matter how good the next generation car was. But the Cobalt is a very competent car, and only having 3-4 years on the market, it is only just beginning to establish itself as a recognizable nameplate. Abandoning that name now only alienates current Cobalt owners and destroying a lot of loyalty buyers like us may or may not have. Completely opposed to the name change. Here's hoping that it's only going to be used for overseas markets.

There's a reason the word Corolla, Impala, and Mustang are so widely recognized around the world.....

I'm guessing that whoever named the Beat, Trax, and Groove came up with this name...

I missed the part where it said the Cobalt is no more, or being replaced by the "Cruze"

They've stated it a few times that Cobalt was gone, and that the car replacing it, this Delta-II global car would get a new name. And it looks like this is going to be it. Built at Lordstown, and from what I've read from other articles around the net, its the exact size of the outgoing Cobalt, so I'm quite sure that this is the car that will be replacing it.

Believe me, I don't like it. It sounds like a name that old executives think would sound cool to a younger generation. Plus, its mono-syllabic, which I hate.

Co-rol-la
Civ-ic
Co-balt
Ma-trix

Honestly, if I buy this car, and am asked, "What do you drive?". Simply replying with, "A Cruze", sounds like some horribly truncated sentence, crying out for another syllable. Maybe Cruz-er, I don't know, I'm griping. At least Cobalt had a ring to it, so did Cavalier for that matter. Rarely ever does a mono-syllabic name sound cool, and this one doesn't cut it, not even close.

Might want to look into CruzeSS.net, just in case :twothumbs

I missed the part where it said the Cobalt is no more, or being replaced by the "Cruze"

Cobalt and its replacement is GM's only >compact< car . The Aveo is subcompact and the new one coming , slotting below the Aveo is a sub subcompact smaller than a mini . So unless they misquoted compact car , thats spells Cobalt replacement .

GM execs read this site , so make to sure voice your opinion on how freakin stupid this name is . Hey , I got an idea ....its frikin brilliant . Why not just call it a Cobalt :poke:

Cobalt and its replacement is GM's only >compact< car . The Aveo is subcompact and the new one coming , slotting below the Aveo is a sub subcompact smaller than a mini . So unless they misquoted compact car , thats spells Cobalt replacement .

GM execs read this site , so make to sure voice your opinion on how freakin stupid this name is . Hey , I got an idea ....its frikin brilliant . Why not just call it a Cobalt :poke:

See, what would be cool is if GM executives would dedicate to team to consult with the community here. They could float ideas, get useful feedback, and hopefully develop an overall better product. I mean, who better to know what works and what doesn't in a car than the people who have to drive it everyday. You know, little things like how the fabric simply ending at the front edge of the headliner, where it meets the windshield, looks horribly cheap. Stuff like that.

Now, as far as the name goes, we would have shot it down immediately. Therein lays the problem. Us, meaning the membership here, are enthusiasts. We think mostly in terms of what would be cool to us. Though Cruze sounds dumb and out of date to us, maybe it polled well overall in focus groups. Who knows. Fact is, GM has to make something that more people like than hate. Although we are loud and vocal, we are a minority.

And I fear the mass market GM has to appeal to could care less as to what its called, long as it is a solid, class leading car. I'm sure when GM first announced the Cobalt, the Cavalier loyalists were furious, and probably thought the same thing.

Personally, I don't like it...at the moment. Maybe it will grow on me. Maybe it won't. I know GM doesn't name their cars on a whim, so I'm guessing there is some rhyme to their reason.

I just hope GM starts listening to us, taking us seriously. We are a great, untapped resource. And in a time where GM could really use the help in its small car market, they should be using a resource like us, as we are the ones who have had to live with the car, and can tell them what they are doing right, and what they are doing wrong.

But we'll see.

They've stated it a few times that Cobalt was gone, and that the car replacing it, this Delta-II global car would get a new name. And it looks like this is going to be it. Built at Lordstown, and from what I've read from other articles around the net, its the exact size of the outgoing Cobalt, so I'm quite sure that this is the car that will be replacing it.

Believe me, I don't like it. It sounds like a name that old executives think would sound cool to a younger generation. Plus, its mono-syllabic, which I hate.

Co-rol-la
Civ-ic
Co-balt
Ma-trix

Honestly, if I buy this car, and am asked, "What do you drive?". Simply replying with, "A Cruze", sounds like some horribly truncated sentence, crying out for another syllable. Maybe Cruz-er, I don't know, I'm griping. At least Cobalt had a ring to it, so did Cavalier for that matter. Rarely ever does a mono-syllabic name sound cool, and this one doesn't cut it, not even close.

Might want to look into CruzeSS.net, just in case :twothumbs

Maybe Cruze Missle! (for the SS one anyway)

Its still gay, but on the other hand, there are ways to make a one syllabil (SP?) word sound good.
I for instance like Volt.

Ehhh from the looks of it, it looks like a Jetta mixed with some malibu.... and seems very... blahh

Thats what I'm getting from the spy pics anyway...

http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-cobalt-2010.html

Some more pics, I don't know if they are the same...

Anyways yeah, I agree about the name too. Oh well, look at it this way our cars just became classics!!!! Hahahahaha...

Why does this have to be a "replacement" for anything? I think most of you are reading to far into this message, and missing the main point...

...its all-new entry in the compact segment...
The first line indicates that this is an all-new entry into the compact segment. Look at some pictures of the Cruze, it looks almost like an Aveo-minivan...

GM has recently indicated they are cutting Truck/SUV manufacturing and putting more focus on compact cars. It's quite obvious this is just a NEW car we don't have in North America yet.

The "Beat" will be the car under the aveo. The Cobalt name will be dropped.... Its been pretty much said all over the GM world now. They wanted a name that is used all over the world, like Toyota has with the corolla.

They are dropping the Cobalt name... Its tough but true

The "Beat" will be the car under the aveo. The Cobalt name will be dropped.... Its been pretty much said all over the GM world now. They wanted a name that is used all over the world, like Toyota has with the corolla.

They are dropping the Cobalt name... Its tough but true

Now you're missing my point..
I never said Cobalt wouldn't be dropped, it's pretty obvious at this point it will be.
My point, since you didn't catch it the first time, was that your link does not indicate anything at all about it being a "replacement" to anything. It quite clearly states whatever they are talking about is a new entry to the compact market.

But, you're clearly above logic on this one sir, so we'll just wait until October when it hits the car shows.

Now you're missing my point..
I never said Cobalt wouldn't be dropped, it's pretty obvious at this point it will be.
My point, since you didn't catch it the first time, was that your link does not indicate anything at all about it being a "replacement" to anything. It quite clearly states whatever they are talking about is a new entry to the compact market.

But, you're clearly above logic on this one sir, so we'll just wait until October when it hits the car shows.

Oh yea I guess I did miss it... Your right. But from some reading in the GM boards, it seems every1 was thinking it would be the Cobalt replacement.

Believe me, I don't like it. It sounds like a name that old executives think would sound cool to a younger generation. Plus, its mono-syllabic, which I hate.

Co-rol-la
Civ-ic
Co-balt
Ma-trix

Honestly, if I buy this car, and am asked, "What do you drive?". Simply replying with, "A Cruze", sounds like some horribly truncated sentence, crying out for another syllable. Maybe Cruz-er, I don't know, I'm griping. At least Cobalt had a ring to it, so did Cavalier for that matter. Rarely ever does a mono-syllabic name sound cool, and this one doesn't cut it, not even close.

Might want to look into CruzeSS.net, just in case :twothumbs

Continuing on this syllable thing, I think I'm starting to see a trend:

Cav-a-lier (3 syb)
Co-balt (2 syb)
Cruze (1 syb)

Following this, does this mean that the Cruze's replacement will just be a letter? I.e. the Chevy "C" (0 syb?!?).:lol:

I like the Chevy "C" better than Cruze.

Im going toyota until GM establishes it's identity when this balt dies.

...it seems every1 was thinking it would be the Cobalt replacement.

Yeah, that is definitely the case. But, most people see "compact car, GM, new" in the same place and just jump to conclusions. If you really look at all the facts from various sources, it leans more toward this being a brand new car.

I don't know why.. but the world of automotive followers tend to think 'replacement' before 'addition' when it comes to American automaker line-up changes.

Im going toyota until GM establishes it's identity when this balt dies.

Blasphemy! Bite your tongue around these parts, there are GM enthusiasts around....:lol:

You know, Chrysler played the same game with the Caliber. For all intensive purposes, that car "replaced" the Neon. But they're literature never used the word "replacement". They were very careful with that. They wanted people to know it was something completely new, and had no ties to any previous cars they made.

I suspect GM is doing the same thing here. If they don't call it a replacement, it is all-new in the eyes of the public. And by not calling it a replacement, your cutting all ties, and starting fresh. I can see why they're doing it, but for a car that is the same size as the Cobalt, rides on the Delta-II chassis, is going to be built in Lordstown, all signs point to this being the Cobalt "replacement", whether they ever wish to admit to it or not.

Yeah, that is definitely the case. But, most people see "compact car, GM, new" in the same place and just jump to conclusions. If you really look at all the facts from various sources, it leans more toward this being a brand new car.

I don't know why.. but the world of automotive followers tend to think 'replacement' before 'addition' when it comes to American automaker line-up changes.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/09/chevy-cruze-to-be-built-in-lordstown/:twothumbs

"wanna go for a cruze in my cruze"

Yeah, I would also have to debadge it if I bought one. It couldn't get any more gay if they spelled the word Cruze in rainbow lettering...

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/09/chevy-cruze-to-be-built-in-lordstown/:twothumbs

Concider me corrected.

...Though they don't quote a source for the indication it is the replacement. They could quite honestly be doing what everyone else around the internet is doing, and simply assuming.

Either way, I won't argue the fact until we see what the Cruze looks like in some ads, or in October.

I want cobalt to be RWD... how bad ass? sorry for off subject

Concider me corrected.

...Though they don't quote a source for the indication it is the replacement. They could quite honestly be doing what everyone else around the internet is doing, and simply assuming.

Either way, I won't argue the fact until we see what the Cruze looks like in some ads, or in October.

You can see the Euro version , the US version likely wont be shown until next year at some point with different front and rear bumpers , headlights ect .

The deal with a neon .....chrysler had reason to rename it as it went from a compact 4 door sedan to larger 5-door hatch . It was essencially a completely different type of car . With GM , while on a new chassis , the Cobalt is just a evolution of the Cavalier and the Cruz is just a evolution of the Cobalt . And GM wonders why they dont have even an ounce of the brand recognition a name like Corolla , Civic or even Focus has with the general public . Theres still poeple that dont know what Cobalt is .

And GM wonders why they dont have even an ounce of the brand recognition a name like Corolla , Civic or even Focus has with the general public . Theres still poeple that dont know what Cobalt is .

Good call. I don't know how many times people have unknowingly asked me what a Cobalt even is when I tell them what I drive.

Chevrolet has gone down the shitter.

Long gone are the days of great names like Nova, Chevelle, El Camino and others. Now we have a Chevrolet line-up that are trying to imitate the Japanese.

Cruze? Beat? Volt?

COME ONE! GAY! GAY! GAY! GAY!

Chevrolet has identity issues.

If they want to to redesign something, whatever, but there's no need to change the name. Especially to something like that. lol. Honestly. I don't get GM. It's like they did away with the Grand Prix name for the G8.. Grand Prix was the longest running nameplate in America. But no. Let's just randomly change it to something on the table of elements or some bullshit. I'm sorry. That's gay. On a similar note, I did hate the name Cobalt when it came out.. But that doesn't count. lol. Cavalier was even worse.. Honestly. Cavalier.. Laid back, relaxed, easy going.. GAY! Bah. They need to rethink their damn names. They should start renaming cars like they did back in the day.. Names that are badass.. Like Hell Fury or something. lol. I'd rock the fuck out of something called a Hell Fury.

I updated the 1st post... the Inside looks really good!!!

I am on the fence with that interior.
At first it looks good, but the more I stare at it, the uglier it gets.

they ruined it i really dont like this new one renaming it is gay and the interior i really dont like the gauges at all i like mine alot it was one of the points that originally got me looking at cobalts over two years ago

It looks fine for what it is.. But then again they are having no problem selling the current generation Cobalt, so why fuck with the system..? The interior is pretty cool. Similar to everyones newer futuristic style interiors, and the exterior looks like a middle-ground between an Aveo sedan and a Malibu.. Not bad, but why..?

i love the current cobalt and the sales are going up with them i agree why change it its pointless

That interior looks way better than what we have now.... I wonder when the coupe comes out if they will offer a Cruze SS Turbocharged with all the goodies and more than the 08 Cobalt SS/TC has, or if they'll just kill off the SS for a while like they did with the Neon SRT-4...

Well it will have a Turbo'd 1.4L I belive. Est 140hp

But the more I look at the overall car, the more I like it. Like the Cobalt grew up! Compaire the inside of our cars now with the current Civic. We NEED a better/Cooler inside. So the more i look at it, the more I like it!

THe only bad part is the name change. Overall I know this car will be better the the Current cobalt! lol


(If they kept the name the same, 100% of the ppl SHOULD agree this car will have it beat hands down)

If they want to to redesign something, whatever, but there's no need to change the name. Especially to something like that. lol. Honestly. I don't get GM. It's like they did away with the Grand Prix name for the G8.. Grand Prix was the longest running nameplate in America. But no. Let's just randomly change it to something on the table of elements or some bullshit. I'm sorry. That's gay. On a similar note, I did hate the name Cobalt when it came out.. But that doesn't count. lol. Cavalier was even worse.. Honestly. Cavalier.. Laid back, relaxed, easy going.. GAY! Bah. They need to rethink their damn names. They should start renaming cars like they did back in the day.. Names that are badass.. Like Hell Fury or something. lol. I'd rock the fuck out of something called a Hell Fury.

They did away with the Grand Prix nameplate because they want Pontiac to have all alpha-numeric names for their vehicle lineup (ie: G5, G6, G8, etc...). I understand the logic from that point, but I've never agreed with this style of naming cars. Alpha-numeric names rarely have the emotional impact or lasting effect that real car names do. Why do you think names such as Charger, Impala, and even FJ cruiser keep getting resurrected? Because they stir emotions in people that have fond memories of such cars. So although their strategy is understood, I'm in agreement with you that it's lame.

As for the name Cavalier, it's actually a historical term for royalty: [The word "Cavalier" is chiefly associated with the Royalist supporters of King Charles I in his struggle with Parliament in the English Civil War. Here again it first appears as a term of reproach and contempt, applied by the opponents of the king. Charles in the Answer to the Petition June 13, 1642 speaks of cavaliers as a "word by what mistake soever it seemes much in disfavour." It was soon adopted (as a title of honour) by the king's party, who in return applied Roundhead to their opponents, and at the Restoration the court party preserved the name, which survived till the rise of the term Tory. Both terms have continued to resurface in British politics up to the present day.]

Now too bad the car itself could only live up to such regal expectations... :lol:

It's growing on me, the car that is. I'm still not sold on the name. I wonder if they're going to even offer a coupe variant at all. It would definitely be a shame if this car was a sedan only :(

The interior is definitely a step up from what we currently have. I especially like the use of colour and fabrics on the dash and door panels. The whole design has a much better flow to it. The centre stack is a little much, maybe a little too cluttered, but overall a nice effort on GM's part.

I think I'm going to projectile vomit.
Cruze!? I was waiting for GM to come out with a replacement for my Cobalt and now they think I'm going to buy a Chevy Cruze!? Who in Gods name came out with that idiotic, moronic, witless name? I didnt think they should change the name at all but I would have had no problem if they changed it to Nova, Chevelle, Monza, even Optra.
To make matters worse they are waiting until 2010 in their weakest market to sell the replacement while not improving the current Cobalt at all! What do they think the resale value will be on current Cobalts? What about all the Cobalt fansites that exist now?
Cruze? Oh man, I think I am going to have to jump ship this time. Its just not worth an ulcer trying to prop up a company as clueless as GM. The next Focus may be my next purchase or the Mazda 3.

I think I'm going to projectile vomit.
Cruze!? I was waiting for GM to come out with a replacement for my Cobalt and now they think I'm going to buy a Chevy Cruze!? Who in Gods name came out with that idiotic, moronic, witless name? I didnt think they should change the name at all but I would have had no problem if they changed it to Nova, Chevelle, Monza, even Optra.
To make matters worse they are waiting until 2010 in their weakest market to sell the replacement while not improving the current Cobalt at all! What do they think the resale value will be on current Cobalts? What about all the Cobalt fansites that exist now?
Cruze? Oh man, I think I am going to have to jump ship this time. Its just not worth an ulcer trying to prop up a company as clueless as GM. The next Focus may be my next purchase or the Mazda 3.

Buy the Mazda 3. I just did 3 days ago and love it!!! Better everything except acceleration :(
I do like getting 21 in the city now instead of my measly 18.6 in my 2.2 Balt!!!

I don't get it. Cobalts are some of the best selling compact cars today! I literally see at least 10-15 different Cobalts when I go out driving a day, maybe more. They're like.. bees, they're everywhere. I don't get why GM would dramatically do away with it and bring in something thats uglier than an Aveo and the size of 75% of a Chevrolet Malibu. GM did amazing designing the Cobalt and new Corvette - everything else I've seen go shitty, except for those and the NEW Malibu.. which is one of Car and Driver's 10 best cars. I'll keep this Cobalt as long as I can and buy a used Cobalt TC in years to come. I love these cars, but the CRUZE? Gay. Hell even if I bought a Cruze, I'd slap Cobalt on it - because that's practically what it SHOULD be.

Oh god why?!?!?!?!?!?!? It's a horrible name!!!!!

I don't get it. Cobalts are some of the best selling compact cars today! I literally see at least 10-15 different Cobalts when I go out driving a day, maybe more. They're like.. bees, they're everywhere. I don't get why GM would dramatically do away with it and bring in something thats uglier than an Aveo and the size of 75% of a Chevrolet Malibu. GM did amazing designing the Cobalt and new Corvette - everything else I've seen go shitty, except for those and the NEW Malibu.. which is one of Car and Driver's 10 best cars. I'll keep this Cobalt as long as I can and buy a used Cobalt TC in years to come. I love these cars, but the CRUZE? Gay. Hell even if I bought a Cruze, I'd slap Cobalt on it - because that's practically what it SHOULD be.

Or just a MKII badge signifying the 2nd comming of the Cobalt! lol

gay, i'll keep mine

We just have to wait until the car comes out to wait to see how it looks. Sure now we don't like the name Cruze, but it'll take time... Then once the Cruze coupe debuts, it'll get better... And then once word (hopefully of a Cruze (SS...maybe?) Turbocharged come out... if it does... then they hype will get back up and we'll be looking back at this going... "Remember when we all thought how gay the name Cruze was??" haha maybe not. As for me, I'm trying to get myself a Solstice GXP coupe next summer, when I turn this in so I won't be having any more Cobalts, or Cruze for a long time.

Buy the Mazda 3. I just did 3 days ago and love it!!! Better everything except acceleration :(
I do like getting 21 in the city now instead of my measly 18.6 in my 2.2 Balt!!!

How is the ride quality? I find my Cobalt LT with 16 inch wheels kinda harsh.

We need to let GM know how we feel about the name change. Theres still time to change their minds.
Go to the Fastlane blog, email them, post a poll here then send it to them, etc.

How is the ride quality? I find my Cobalt LT with 16 inch wheels kinda harsh.

We need to let GM know how we feel about the name change. Theres still time to change their minds.
Go to the Fastlane blog, email them, post a poll here then send it to them, etc.

Lol, there not gunna change the name. Even with a bunch of E-mails. There changing the name so its like the same car all around the world. And pretty much everywhere else likes Cruze... So where stuck.

Lutz isn't gunna change the name if the fastlane blog get 25K e-mails....


The Car looks good so far, and I'm sure the coup will be sick. + There is now word that a wagon is coming.

Cavalier is also what you call a male ballet dancer. At least since the birth of the Nutcracker. I should know...I married an artist. But she's only been dancing since she was 2.

Chevy does have a handful of legacy names. And with history much more exciting than the Accord or Corolla. But I guess Silverado and Suburban are under the gun if things continue the way they are. Only folks with boats or own their own construction company would own something like that at $8/gal. Pretty sure it won't get that bad though seeing that airline companies are stepping up to Congress about restricting trade b/t speculators.

As for replacing, folks need to remember the Camaro replaced the Corvair. There is nothing similar about those cars except they were made for speed. Well the Monza Corvair anyway.

And I'm going to shoot someone if they make a performance model of the Cruze. It'll need to try harder than the Cobalt to earn an SS. The only other thing I can think of is if they go even farther to say its new, and call it the "N". Cruze N.

Cavalier is also what you call a male ballet dancer. At least since the birth of the Nutcracker. I should know...I married an artist. But she's only been dancing since she was 2.

Chevy does have a handful of legacy names. And with history much more exciting than the Accord or Corolla. But I guess Silverado and Suburban are under the gun if things continue the way they are. Only folks with boats or own their own construction company would own something like that at $8/gal. Pretty sure it won't get that bad though seeing that airline companies are stepping up to Congress about restricting trade b/t speculators.

As for replacing, folks need to remember the Camaro replaced the Corvair. There is nothing similar about those cars except they were made for speed. Well the Monza Corvair anyway.

And I'm going to shoot someone if they make a performance model of the Cruze. It'll need to try harder than the Cobalt to earn an SS. The only other thing I can think of is if they go even farther to say its new, and call it the "N". Cruze N.

I wont mind a Cruze SS. Afterall, the current SS's are faster then almost every SS pre 1993. :twothumbs

I wont mind a Cruze SS. Afterall, the current SS's are faster then almost every SS pre 1993. :twothumbs

Just out of curiosity sake, I looked into what you said, and you're pretty much right. The only SS I could find that would beat a Cobalt SS (SC or TC) is the 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6. The Car and Driver issue from February 1970 rated the 0-60 time for this Chevelle to be 5.4 seconds, where our SC's and TC's run anywhere from 5.7 to 6 seconds (stock), depending on who is doing the testing.

That's some good useless information right there. :twothumbs

Its actually a little sad. When we have cars today that are up to par with a car that was made almost 40 years ago, its like we've gotten nowhere performance wise. I mentioned it'd have to try harder for the SS badge just since it just doesn't look like a Chevy. I even disagreed with the commercials saying the Cobalt had Corvette blood...the taillights are clearly from an Impala of that year with the reverse light on the inside.

My question stands, why did they go from a Astra based car to a Lacetti based one after Saturn recovered with Opel based models? Its like still looking for your keys when you have them in your hand.

If people buy cars by name though, then it makes me wonder how successful the VW Rabbit is. Or if thats too aggressive, just call it the VW Bunny. Maybe there should be a Chevy Cub. I see a Civic killer there.

This blows, looks like if i don't get an ss/tc in time i will just look to another manufacturer for a fun DD.

wow...it looks like a gd scion tc

Just out of curiosity sake, I looked into what you said, and you're pretty much right. The only SS I could find that would beat a Cobalt SS (SC or TC) is the 1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS6. The Car and Driver issue from February 1970 rated the 0-60 time for this Chevelle to be 5.4 seconds, where our SC's and TC's run anywhere from 5.7 to 6 seconds (stock), depending on who is doing the testing.

That's some good useless information right there. :twothumbs

:twothumbs

I missed the part where it said the Cobalt is no more, or being replaced by the "Cruze"

The Chevy Cruze will replace the Cobalt, which recently had a third shift added to its production, and will make its initial debut at the Paris Motor Show in October. Europeans will get the first shot at the new car with sales beginning in April of 2009. The U.S. won't get the car until the following year, as the Lordstown plant begins phasing out the Cobalt and ramping up production of the Cruze in June of 2010.


This Sucks Ass!!

The "cruze" will be on the Delta II, as will the Astra, and every other car in this class. It is not "Lacetti" based (which I think that's same as an Aveo basically anyway, and one step below the Cobalt/Cruze class).

Regardless, I know that my next new car, if I get one, won't be the Cruze. I'll wait on the Astra Redline. Or say screw it, and build it myself. I can stuff an LNF into a Triumph Spitfire. And add a .303 machine gun to it, for traffic.

Grand Prix name for the G8.. Grand Prix was the longest running nameplate in America.


How about the Sububan... same name since 1935
How about the Corvette.. same name since 1953

I've mentioned Suburban, Silverado, Corvette, Impala before...but then guess there is also the Malibu, and the Camaro will be returning. Is the Bonneville still made? I mean, sure, all sorts of names went away, but GM doesn't get rid of all the nameplates. The fact that they have so many more models than Toyota or Honda have ever made just tends to make the statement a bit exagerrated. I think its funny how the HHR looks like it tried to be a retro Suburban though.

I thought for sure they would bring back a retro name to make it complete:
Nova
Malibu
Impala
Or:
Chevelle
Malibu
Impala

Cruze? Ugh. Even Prizm or Cavalier would have been better.

Is the Bonneville still made?

No the Bonneville has been gone for a few years. It was an ok car. I liked the last Bonneville GXP, although it would have been a much better car if it had been RWD instead of FWD.

GM seems to be very selective about what names they keep around, kill, bring back... While some of the classic names seem to be in hibernation, with the Monte Carlo being killed off I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out of it's slumber sometime in the future...

We all know about the Buick Riviera... How many times did that come out, get killed, and come back out? It's supposedly coming back again... So who knows..

If they want to to redesign something, whatever, but there's no need to change the name. Especially to something like that. lol. Honestly. I don't get GM. It's like they did away with the Grand Prix name for the G8.. Grand Prix was the longest running nameplate in America. But no. Let's just randomly change it to something on the table of elements or some bullshit. I'm sorry. That's gay. On a similar note, I did hate the name Cobalt when it came out.. But that doesn't count. lol. Cavalier was even worse.. Honestly. Cavalier.. Laid back, relaxed, easy going.. GAY! Bah. They need to rethink their damn names. They should start renaming cars like they did back in the day.. Names that are badass.. Like Hell Fury or something. lol. I'd rock the fuck out of something called a Hell Fury.

That would be because they still make the Grand Prix...

The Cobalt nameplate is being dropped for a global name. Perhaps Cobalt has some terribly negative meaning in languages spoken in markets that this vehicle will be sold in.

I thought for sure they would bring back a retro name to make it complete:
Nova
Malibu
Impala
Or:
Chevelle
Malibu
Impala

Cruze? Ugh. Even Prizm or Cavalier would have been better.

No. Cavalier would not have been better! :thumbsdow:nono:

No. Cavalier would not have been better! :thumbsdow:nono:

cavyqueer:lol:

worst then slowbalt

Bump Update on MPG!

That would be because they still make the Grand Prix...

The Cobalt nameplate is being dropped for a global name. Perhaps Cobalt has some terribly negative meaning in languages spoken in markets that this vehicle will be sold in.

If Cobalt, an element on the periodic table is considered negative, I get the idea that there are some out there that would want the Honda Element gone just from name alone.

Bump, Added Leaked pics of the cruze

bump for pics...

looks pretty badass.. especially the wheels.. too bad the image is in low-res:

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/newgmcars/1002793473

Those are comparable to the concept Camaro's wheels. But I still don't like it.

How is the ride quality? I find my Cobalt LT with 16 inch wheels kinda harsh.

We need to let GM know how we feel about the name change. Theres still time to change their minds.
Go to the Fastlane blog, email them, post a poll here then send it to them, etc.

I had the LT with 16" before the mazda3. It was way too soft for me. My mazda3 has 17" with low profile tires. It is still a little too soft for my driving. I drove a mazda3 a base model with the 16" wheels and it rode a little firmer than my old Balt did. I think it is a matter of preference on the firmness of the springs/dampers. Mazda. Mazda. Mazda.

Mazda. Mazda. Mazda.

Blasphemy!!! :lol:

Blasphemy!!! :lol:

U r jealous of my new car that is way better than the cobalt!!!!

Cobalt:
bought for: 16000
sold for: 9200
dealer selling for: 11990
Mazda3 i touring value: 17100Mazda quality: priceless

U r jealous of my new car that is way better than the cobalt!!!!

Cobalt:
bought for: 16000
sold for: 9200
dealer selling for: 11990
Mazda3 i touring value: 17100Mazda quality: priceless

Nah, I'm just teasin'. I actually owned a 2004 Mazda6 GT for a while and it was a great car. I really like what Mazda has done with their lineup of cars over the past 5 years or so. The 3 is a great car too, seeing as how my decision to buy came down to a choice between a Cobalt SS/SC and a Mazda3 GT. But ulitmately the speed freak in me won out. And I do feel a sense of pride knowing that I bought something to support our own. But enjoy your ride! :twothumbs

U r jealous of my new car that is way better than the cobalt!!!!


Maybe if it was a Mazdaspeed 3, if it's anything less then it's not anything better then a SS/SC or SS/TC... I'm glad you are happy with your purchase though... I like Mazda's too... Was thinking of getting a RX8 after my SS/SC's lease ends, but I'm not sure if I want that rotary in it...

Just call it a cobalt with a different anding then SS or LT...

Rotaries aren't that great unless they are turbo'd. Its cool having a motor that will rev that high but thats b/c thats where all the power is. And I bet the RX-8 still eats oil like the 7 did.

Rotaries aren't that great unless they are turbo'd. Its cool having a motor that will rev that high but thats b/c thats where all the power is. And I bet the RX-8 still eats oil like the 7 did.

I was talking to someone here at work with a RX-7 and he says Rotary engines are wasteful and that the gas mileage sucks horribly.

Rotaries aren't that great unless they are turbo'd. Its cool having a motor that will rev that high but thats b/c thats where all the power is. And I bet the RX-8 still eats oil like the 7 did.

friend as an rx-8 and it eats oil and gas like no tomorrow.

The deal with a neon .....chrysler had reason to rename it as it went from a compact 4 door sedan to larger 5-door hatch . It was essencially a completely different type of car . With GM , while on a new chassis , the Cobalt is just a evolution of the Cavalier and the Cruz is just a evolution of the Cobalt . And GM wonders why they dont have even an ounce of the brand recognition a name like Corolla , Civic or even Focus has with the general public . Theres still poeple that dont know what Cobalt is .

GM is trying to get you to call the car a "Chevrolet" instead of "Cobalt". Its especially noticable with the Pontiac division where they're changing all the cars to the alphanumeric system to force you to say that "I drive a Pontiac" instead of "I drive a Grand Am" or something to that extent. It ticks me off since the only car people recognize is the G6 and everyone tries to think I'm talking about the G6 when I mention the G5. I even fight dealerships on this when I am trying to order parts... :thumbsdow "No... its a G FIVE... not SIX... You know what... fuck it... look up the part under the Cobalt LT".

20 bucks to the first one with a license plate that says "tom"

.....I like it overall (Bowtie looks a lil big). If they make a 2 door with a LNF I will own one.

still tho...the name..really chevy?

Meh atleast we all own a piece of history now. Never selling my baby <3