I have gotten a couple requests for a 304 stainless header. I am waiting for a quote for laser cut header flanges and 304 stainless tubing. If there is eough interest we can plan a production run of 304 stainless headers. The only part that would not be stainless would be the 3" ball/socket flange simply because no company makes them in 304 stainless. We would have the flanges ceramic coated.

Anyways, let me know who and how many are interested in a stainless header.
Thanks everyone.

deff if price is right

What he said. ^

yes sir

Looks like we can come in pretty competitively with everyone else.

Preliminary retail price for a 304 stainless header, stainless 3" down-pipe with 2 1/2" welded flange and no cat converter - $555.00. With a hi-flow converter, $670.00. Keep in mind our converters are a full metallic core converter, not the ceramic core like Magnaflow, Catco, etc.

I'll know more tomorrow...

Thanks again.

so $555 for a stainless header. Is this gonna be 1 3/4 header tube diameter? And will it be a full 3 inch downpipe or a 3 inch that goes into 2 1/2?

Yeah it would be 1 3/4 primaries, with a 3" DP that goes into a 2 1/2 outlet.

I believe he's waiting on pricing on the 3" flanges, since that's what ZZP was hung up on as well.

We can do the down-pipe anyway you need it; 3" outlet with ball/socket is what we prefer. Or we can do the taper to 2 1/2" with welded factory flange. I am just waiting for a final; quote on stainless 1 3/4" tubing. Next would be forming the collectors to make sure we can without issue. On longer 4-way collectors 16 gage collapses every time. I'm hoping we can form the short collector for the Cobalt. Otherwise we will need to special oprder 14 gage 304 stainless 3": very expensive... I'll keep everyone posted.

Beth is off today so the office is pretty much shut down. Todd and I are in the shop working on Cobalt headers and the 3" exhaust install.

Talk to everyone later.

Also, feel free to direct others to this thread. So far there isn't enough interest to justify purchasing stainless material. I have a minimum flange count I have to order. I'd like to see at least 10 interested.

Thanks again.

Unfortunately I brought this up after ZZP just had their massive exhaust purchase group buy. Depending on final price quote, you know you have my interest.

im def interested

I was really hoping for at least 10 customers but I figured what the heck, this will give us an opportunity to show-off our stainless steel fabrication. :) Stainless headers are a go. I ordered enough material to do a batch of 10 headers. I'll have final pricing soon.

Thanks again guys.

I am interested if price is right. Also Dan if this is to much for my wallet how about a regular header and dp? Let me know some info ok.

Interested!!!! Subscribed.

ZZP just announced that they hit a big snag in their production of the stainless headers. I don't know the details but from the sounds of it you may have some extra customers if yours come out first.

i hope it looks like the CTI header. those are long tube and sell for 500. best header out there IMO.... unless you guys offer something better of course

The only snag we would experience is forming the stainless collectors. I special ordered 20 feet of 14 gage (.083 wall) 304 stainless 3" tubing today. It is 2 weeks out for delivery.

Stainless flanges should be ready for pick-up Thursday and we'll be bending 304 stainless tubing tomorrow for the primary tubes.

As far as the design, the stainless headers will look identical to our current mid-length design. Mild steel header and DP preeices are current.

Thanks again everyone.

I have a question for you guys at CIA, Im looking for a header/dp combo with out a cat. BUT I have a Megan racing catback and I know once I go with a catless dp that my exhaust is gonna be loud. So I have been looking on the Vendors sites to see if anyone makes a catless dp but with a resenator welded in. Do you guys have anything like that or could you make something like that along with the header as a combo?
Thanks.

I have a question for you guys at CIA, Im looking for a header/dp combo with out a cat. BUT I have a Megan racing catback and I know once I go with a catless dp that my exhaust is gonna be loud. So I have been looking on the Vendors sites to see if anyone makes a catless dp but with a resenator welded in. Do you guys have anything like that or could you make something like that along with the header as a combo?
Thanks.

Hmmm? Interesting suggestion. We haven't done it before but I will try to find a small resonator to fit.

Maybe I'm underestimating the cat, but wouldn't putting a resonator where the cat would normally be restrict air almost as much as actually having a cat on there?

I'm anxious to see how your headers turn out, the others look nice on the site.

Maybe I'm underestimating the cat, but wouldn't putting a resonator where the cat would normally be restrict air almost as much as actually having a cat on there?

I'm anxious to see how your headers turn out, the others look nice on the site.

The converters we use are extremely high flowing so there wouldn't be much of a difference. However, a resonator will definitely quiet the exhaust and flow well where the converter wont quiet things much at all. Also, a resonator would be less expensive.

Thanks for your comments.

The converters we use are extremely high flowing so there wouldn't be much of a difference. However, a resonator will definitely quiet the exhaust and flow well where the converter wont quiet things much at all. Also, a resonator would be less expensive.

Thanks for your comments.

Now Im talking a str8 thru resonator about 14" in lenght. Could you come up with some numbers as to how much it would cost and pm me or post here? I know the stock cat quiets things alot, When I took the cats off my 04 GTO and had the SLP LM1 catback it was crazy loud, so I had to install the LM2 mufflers.
The megan catback that I have on the Balt now I feel is loud enough and thats with the 24" resonator under the car and muffler out back. Add a 14" str8 thru resornator on the DP should help.

Any news with regards to my question (above post)?

I ordered an Aero brand resonator today. It's 14" long and 6" diameter. It should be here tomorrow. We also have a Redline coming in for some O2 bung placement. We will see how this Aero resonator works. I'll have my cost for it tomorrow.

Thanks again.

OK cool, thanks CIA. Never thought with my 4yrs in the service Id be thanking the CIA. HAHA!!! Maybe a sound clip if possable?

OK cool, thanks CIA. Never thought with my 4yrs in the service Id be thanking the CIA. HAHA!!! Maybe a sound clip if possable?

LOL.


The Aero resonator would completely change the way the exhaust system hangs under the car. It would lower it by an inch and require us to change the way the exhaust is fabricated and the hangers welded on. Sorry guys, I'm sending the Aero resonator back. We have already done the R&D for an exhaust which works well, sounds good and performs great. We're not starting over. We gave it a try and I'm sorry it didn't work out. We do have another option we will be trying which would achive the same thing, quiet the exhaust without physical changes to the exhaust.

I'll keep you all posted.

Thanks again CIA. Thats something I to dont want since my Megan cat back sits and hangs perfect. If your next option is too a no go that is fine too. I guess I will have to live with my balt being a little louder with a header and catless dp. Or take a closer look up under the car and try to find a location I can install an other resanator if need be. There dosnt seem to be to many vids on utube with catless dp balts and a after market catback. So Im still trying to get an idea of the sound and volume.

yall should make a race header

yall should make a race header

What exactly makes it a "race header"??

look at all the header for the balt and then go look at the weapon r race header and see

What exactly makes it a "race header"??

getting head while your race.

hahahahahahahahahaha dam lol

look at all the header for the balt and then go look at the weapon r race header and see

Post pics. Or tell me whats different :lol:

http://cobalt-addiction.com/performance.htm
here is the link
4-2-1-design

http://cobalt-addiction.com/performance.htm
here is the link
4-2-1-design

They offer a Tri-Y or 4-2-1 header, for less than that IIRC.

4-2-1 is mainly for an N/A app, it promotes a better scavange than a straight 4-1 collector, but that is not necessary on a boosted car. Biggest issue I have with that design is the smallish collector, but for most people it would be fine. My car is not normal though.

We could build a header like that "Weapon R", (maybe we could call it our "Type S" header). :lol: Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity to make fun of the name.

Anyways, it would be sort of pointless to offer another header. Our current header makes roughly 15 HP and 15 ft./lbs. of torque to the wheels as it is. I honestly don't see much of an improvement, if any, going with a little bit longer primary tubes. Even if there was a difference, it wouldn't justify a new design. Unless 10 plus customers were willing to pre-order and make a deposit. We need to focus on what we can build now and get current orders out.

Will your current 4>1 header and catless dp mate up to a aftermarket catback? I was just looking on your site. And is the O2 extention needed for the dp or header.

Bump my above post ^^^^

just a suggestion: use 3 bolt flanges from header to DP if you dont intend to already

Ok I was thinking of buying a set but if no one can answer posts and question then I might have to look else where. Im planing on picking up a header/catless dp combo in the next few weeks.

On your question about if it will bolt up to an after market cat back....yes it will :). This is how it was designed to work, with a stock cat back or aftermarket.

Also our header to dp connection is a ball & socket design, no gasket needed for those who did not catch some of the earlier post's.
The cat back connection can be the factory 2 bolt, or we can make provisions for the gasket-less ball socket connection, any combination is possible.

i want to be able to bolt my stock downpipe up when it comes time for inspection. any help?

Ok I was thinking of buying a set but if no one can answer posts and question then I might have to look else where. Im planing on picking up a header/catless dp combo in the next few weeks.

Please keep in mind, your first post was made on Saturday, your next on Sunday. We are closed on weekends. Yesterday I took the day off to visit with family. But, Todd did answer your questions MOnday when he had a chance.

Thanks.

i want to be able to bolt my stock downpipe up when it comes time for inspection. any help?

The stock down-pipe will not bolt to our header. You will need to go with a shorty header, stick with the stock manifold/down-pipe or swap the stock manifold/DP for our header/DP.

With any of your headers/dp, are O2 extentions needed? Also if ordered can an extra O2 bung be welded into the dp, so a wideband can then be installed?

With any of your headers/dp, are O2 extentions needed? Also if ordered can an extra O2 bung be welded into the dp, so a wideband can then be installed?

No extentions are needed. There is plenty of length in the factory harness but you will need to pop the plastic push through style clip out. Pretty simple with a small pry bar or large flat head screw driver.

Yes, an extra O2 bung can be welded in. $20.00 for stainless bung, $15.00 for steel bung and $10.00 for a zinc plated O2 plug.

Ok great CIA. Will be placing an order in a few weeks. Still trying to decide on which set up I want. I know NO CAT, but which header. Hmmmm?

First 304 stainless steel header is complete. I will post prices as soon as I get them figured out and start a "Stainless Steel header" thread.

Here's the link to the sale:

http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=124358

And the pictures:

http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/P1010026.JPG

http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/P1010025.JPG

Thanks again everyone.

Do you guys have any plans to build a turbo manifold?

Do you guys have any plans to build a turbo manifold?

We hadn't. What interest is there in such a product?