View Full Version : Trifecta Tune (Review)


Spanky's Monkey
07-13-2008, 11:55 AM
Holy shit this is the tune to get. I'm running the injen cai, a straight through 2.5" exhaust and a couple other goodies on an auto. First off the power comes alive at 3/4 throttle and in any gear and I mean any gear and this is at any speed up to the redline. I'm very familiar with my car and I can honestly vouche that the tune does make more power available to you beyond 3k rpm on 93 octane. At 80mph the car would fall on it's face. I could still make the 120mph limit but there was little no umph left. With Trifecta the car pulled hard on the 80-120 run and kept going. She maxed out at 130 and floated right at the 6.5k redline holding the power strong. The shift behavior has changed and the trans seems to be more telepathic in nature whether driving on the edge or running down the street. The car upshifts more quickly then stock and not as punishing as Shift+ stage 2 which allows the car to keep power to the ground and will push your back into the seat 1-2 gear shift much similar to the Shift+ stage 2. The down-shift is delayed and this makes a major difference when you're getting on it as the trans remains in gear ready to pounce. Mind you the car never failed to perform even at normal speeds with a very smooth downshift and instant torque gratifaction. The cam timing has changed slightly and i noticed this in the note change heard in my exhaust. All in all if you race your 2.2L like you have no goddamn sense you need this tune now. If you want great gas mileage you still need it cause the gas mileage is honestly beyond words. On our high speed runs I'd see 16.7mpg and on this last run i was at 21.3. I would say for an engine that stayed pushing 100 to 130 for sustained periods that's damn good.

This is a review and as such should be taken as opinion and not fact. In fact buy the tunr push it hard and make your own opinions. All this was performed on a closed course with proffessional drivers:cool:

P.S. Nitrous was not used to improve the cars performance at any point as honestly I ran out. However given the tunes performance as tested it would be absolutely beastly with the boost juice.

Edit:
After driving the over the weekend on the new tune I noticed a couple of things. First the damn gas guage actually works now. before it would hold at certain points giving the false impression of better gas mileage. Now you watch as the needle falls when you're packing on the miles and I do a lot of long distance highway miles all over the Chicagoland area. Second I'm almost positive the overdrive has been disabled, which in my opinion is a major plus as it has a habit of kicking in when you don't want it to. This is a must have product.


$250 for ECM Tune(5spd) or ECM/TCM Tune(Auto)
There is a Refundable Despoit for the tuner, so be aware when ordering, kiddies.
P.S. Shipping's not included. You choose when you get it.




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ClearImageAuto Dan
07-14-2008, 09:18 PM
Thanks very much for your detailed review. We're glad you like the tune and are having fun with your car!

mkulrey13
07-14-2008, 09:23 PM
ehh, im still waiting like many others to be able to tune ourselfs...i need to fine tune my turbo setup

BlackBoltSS28
07-14-2008, 09:30 PM
How is the tune with the turbo i want to F/I this fall lol but yeah it would be nice to tune your own setup instead of waiting. But i have heard nothing but good things about this tune and hope to toss out the shift+ and buy the tranny tune and the engine tune soon.

Spanky's Monkey
07-14-2008, 10:42 PM
I talked to Vince and he can tune for anything. you just need access to a dyno with wideband or you'll be shooting emails with him to road tune. as of right now he does have a 2.2 turbo tune he's working on with Mrsilent13 and it is an auto tune at that. the car was running but gave out, not sure but i believe it was valvetrain related. anyhow he's got something to work with based on that tune.

a personnal tune would be nice but it's not in the cards for the 2.2 and i doubt it will ever be. Vince and his people already contacted the big tuners and they all replied with a stern no to tuning the L61. they are not and will not tune our cars which is why Vince stepped up with the tune. if you don't believe me talk to Beth at Clear Image they've worked hand in hand with Vince on this tune.

plaxton
07-14-2008, 10:47 PM
just curious. why did the big tuners say no to tunning our cars? wouldn't it mean more bussiness and money for them?

originaladrian
07-14-2008, 10:50 PM
just curious. why did the big tuners say no to tunning our cars? wouldn't it mean more bussiness and money for them?

not worth the price for R&D.

if the l61 on our cars were used in other cars or for more years maybe

yellowltcoupe22
07-14-2008, 10:54 PM
well is this tune set up to fun your nitrous too? im wantin to get a tune but if it has to up the timing for the tune to be worth it then im not gonna get it cuz im not riskin detonation when i spray.

originaladrian
07-14-2008, 10:57 PM
well is this tune set up to fun your nitrous too? im wantin to get a tune but if it has to up the timing for the tune to be worth it then im not gonna get it cuz im not riskin detonation when i spray.

no real need to tune for a wet kit...

yellowltcoupe22
07-14-2008, 11:01 PM
im not wantin a tune for the n2o. just a tune that'll work with the n2o. i wanna get rid of the tc, PE delay better shifts. you know just stuff like that to make the car perform better. but if the timin gets advanced more than a degree or two it wont be as safe to spray cuz the risk of detonation.

Spanky's Monkey
07-14-2008, 11:07 PM
i've sprayed 5 times and through the gears and yes even in first and the tune is godly. anything else you need to know? once the police around here relaxe a bit i'm going to get some good pull vids up i got a couple on you tube one with me spraying.

yellowltcoupe22
07-14-2008, 11:17 PM
so you basically just got a basic tune and your fine sprayin? im runnin a 75shot now and its suppose to be good at factory timin. how much did the tune up the timin? o and what is your vids under on youtube? i'd like to check em out.

Spanky's Monkey
07-14-2008, 11:41 PM
silentoldsoul. yeah a basic tune. you must understand that under duress the ecm is designed to pull timing this is not effected by the trifecta tune as the tune allows the ecm freer reign over the control parameters.

yellowltcoupe22
07-14-2008, 11:44 PM
ahh ok i understand now. was there any specifics you had done on your tune?

Spanky's Monkey
07-14-2008, 11:47 PM
p0420 code delete and i had the nuetral/park rev limit removed(its a ricer thing i hear).

going to do a coupla pulls in a minute.

yellowltcoupe22
07-14-2008, 11:49 PM
man are you catchin second gear in your car that hard with the tune?

Spanky's Monkey
07-15-2008, 12:50 AM
yep, that's pretty damned good without the shift+ and it puts the power done with spinning the wheels which is very bad. got one decent vid outta those runs and it's on the bottle so check it out when you get a minute.

yellowltcoupe22
07-15-2008, 09:53 PM
aight man will do.. i think i'll be orederin a tune in the next couple of weeks..

04Redline
07-15-2008, 11:37 PM
Sounds good they did my tune as well and love it

mkulrey13
07-15-2008, 11:54 PM
eh...jsut release it already and get a 90% boost in sales..:rolleyes: i just dont understand canned tunes are just not that great.

ClearImageAuto Dan
07-16-2008, 10:33 PM
eh...jsut release it already and get a 90% boost in sales..:rolleyes: i just dont understand canned tunes are just not that great.

Release what?

Also, keep in mind Vince prepares the tune for each customer based on the customers modifications and input. The only reason it can be called a "canned tune" is because it is being up-loaded to a piece of hardware for customer convenience. Otherwise the pcm would need to be shipped and the tune up-loaded the old way.

chevyLSchik
07-16-2008, 10:39 PM
im not wantin a tune for the n2o. just a tune that'll work with the n2o. i wanna get rid of the tc, PE delay better shifts. you know just stuff like that to make the car perform better. but if the timin gets advanced more than a degree or two it wont be as safe to spray cuz the risk of detonation.

Vince can tune for n20 like he did his camaro...he puts two table in your car and it only runs when you push a button or something. [call Vince and he can explain that part, i dont know the particulars]

DebadgedBALT77
07-16-2008, 10:45 PM
what was the cost? Id like to get rid of PE, and a few other things, just mainly get a few more ponies and have it shift a little better. But i wouldnt want to comprimise fuel mileage at all

chevyLSchik
07-16-2008, 10:51 PM
you get better gas mileage with the tune [unless you drive hard all the time!]...it definatly shifts alot better :D

04Redline
07-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Yeah i noticed after the tune my cars powerband was WAY smoother. Before it felt like it would studder which is a very little amount.... but made the ride alot better... Watch the MPH! lol

Spanky's Monkey
07-16-2008, 11:23 PM
yeah it's easy to give her too much throttle because of the way you get used to having to push the balt to get a response. with the tune you see better mileage and the damn gas gauge gives you an honest to god readout instead or the speratic gm tuned guessing game.

price is stated in original post check it out.

$250 for the tune then theres shipping and the deposit.

RedBaseBolt
07-17-2008, 02:20 PM
I spoke with Vince about this on the phone. I'm very excited to order mine! I am right in the middle of getting a new job so if all goes through I'll be putting my order in within the next month. :D

SushiCheffff
07-21-2008, 04:02 PM
just got off the phone with vince about the product. from whate everyones been saying in the threas sounds like a damn good product. putting in an order for one aug 15th.

2007 cobalt lt- 18''wheels and intake within the week, manymore mods to come in near future

Spanky's Monkey
07-21-2008, 06:18 PM
i'd say get a full exhaust pre-tune or tuen for the exhaust and just add it later. the intake alone won't produce much power but coupled with a free flowing exhaust and you'll be in 2.2 heaven.

SushiCheffff
07-21-2008, 06:29 PM
my intake should arrive by thursday and ill get my wheels tomorrow. My exhaust work i've pushed back till nov because i need to replace my stock hoood. The damn paint is ruff in one area and if i don't get it fixed or replace ittl be hella ugly by early next year. So i plan on just replacing the whole damn thing with the spyder cf hood. After that then my exhaust will be next. I would love to get my car to sound clean, but the hood is priority. Wheels and a fu*ked up hood just wouldn't make sense

Spanky's Monkey
07-21-2008, 06:32 PM
a full exhaust with the tune builds better power has little to do with sound. why are you tuning again?

SushiCheffff
07-21-2008, 07:08 PM
oh no, i haven't tuned yet, i will be getting that done aug 15th. sorry gave the wrong impression

Spanky's Monkey
07-21-2008, 09:00 PM
i'm asking why are you tuning your car in the first place? i should have realized the wording was off. if you don't know that a full exhaust helps build power are you sure of what exactly you are trying to accomplish with the tune? i'm not trying to be a dick but you don't seem very educated as to the benefits of modding.

04Redline
07-22-2008, 01:39 AM
full exhaust will help any car.... stock ones really rob the motor of life.

SushiCheffff
07-22-2008, 11:35 AM
:lol:okay let me restate. I know that a full exhaust builds power, and so will headers, and all the other bolt ons. What im saying is, is that i am not getting my exhaust done till around nov 1st or the 15. My tune i am going to get done on aug 15. But MOST of the reason for me getting my exhaust work done is to just get my car to sound clean, the hp gain is nice but again im not shootin for a pefomance cobalt otherwise i would have got the ss/sc. I could just go with a muffler but i might as well go all the way. The only performance mods i plan on doing for the cobalt will be CAI, tune, exhaust, and header. Im going for mostly just a cosmetic change for my cobalt. And again the reason why i pushed the exhaust back to NOV was because i need to replace my hood. Its priority at the moment. i hope that clears it up. mah bad

04Redline
07-22-2008, 10:38 PM
You wouldn't see more than 2-3hp after exhaust with another tune anyway... if your just doing it for kicks. But 2-3hp to me is free power i'd love to see for free. Just my advice hope you like it! exhaust then tune FTW

yellowltcoupe22
07-22-2008, 10:59 PM
Vince can tune for n20 like he did his camaro...he puts two table in your car and it only runs when you push a button or something. [call Vince and he can explain that part, i dont know the particulars]

thanks, i'll give him a call to see what he can do for me. i'd love to have it setup like that anyways.

Spanky's Monkey
07-22-2008, 11:02 PM
:lol:......... My tune i am going to get done on aug 15......... the hp gain is nice but again im not shootin for a pefomance cobalt otherwise i would have got the ss/sc.

so with a post containing such nonsense i'll ask again why tune your 2.2? the tune is designed with performance in mind. wow, you figured out the ss/sc is better for a performance platform and that's not what you seek yet you come into the clear image forum looking to purchase the trifecta performance tune :wtf: then you are enlightened you respond with a silly statement about exhausts and you back track that with an even more bizarre remark about not wanting performance but still wanting the tune..........:rolleyes:..........to each his own i suppose.

SushiCheffff
07-23-2008, 03:58 PM
You wouldn't see more than 2-3hp after exhaust with another tune anyway... if your just doing it for kicks. But 2-3hp to me is free power i'd love to see for free. Just my advice hope you like it! exhaust then tune FTW

thats pretty much the only reason for me getting the tune. just to say i have it, and besides the tune isn't strictly for hp/torque gain. It also calibrates you fuel needle, and helps with gas mileage. And i don't understand why you cant grasp the fact that just because its not going to be a performance build you shouldn't still do a few mods internally. For shits and giggles pretty much it.

Spanky's Monkey
07-23-2008, 05:57 PM
so why not just get the ss/sc just because you can say you brought one? yep, that makes just about the same amount of sense. i quit. you fail, but you still win, oh well. i'm throwing in the towel on this one.

Circa2000
07-24-2008, 10:43 PM
So i want to get this tune asap. But i think an exhaust is needed. I need input on a exhaust easy on the wallet and good on airflow. I dont want loud and i dont want a huge ricer look.

chevyLSchik
07-24-2008, 10:52 PM
You can talk to ClearImageDan about a custom exhaust :D They are really cheap on the wallet and you can choose how you want your exhaust to look.

Circa2000
07-24-2008, 10:58 PM
Will do. Shipping is going to kill.

Bobalt921
08-04-2008, 04:22 PM
everybody is getting this tune im going to have to look into getting it for myself

Grich171
08-05-2008, 12:11 AM
$250 for ECM Tune(5spd) or ECM/TCM Tune(Auto)
There is a Refundable Despoit for the tuner, so be aware when ordering, kiddies.
P.S. Shipping's not included. You choose when you get it.




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so its 250 plus another deposit fee?

Spanky's Monkey
08-05-2008, 09:58 AM
yes at the time of my purchase that fee was $200.

Grich171
08-05-2008, 03:34 PM
damnnnn

Spanky's Monkey
08-05-2008, 05:55 PM
what's the big deal? it's only a credit hold and you get it back when they get the tuner back. i feel it's well worth it given you never really lose the money anyway and they need some reassurance you're going to ship the tuner back.

philupondes
08-20-2008, 10:16 PM
what's the big deal? it's only a credit hold and you get it back when they get the tuner back. i feel it's well worth it given you never really lose the money anyway and they need some reassurance you're going to ship the tuner back.

sorry if I'm dumb:confused:, but you pay $250 that you dont keep, then another $200 deposit, that you get back, when you send it back, so you tune your car then mail it back but the tune is still there? sorry but I'm a newbie:lol:

Spanky's Monkey
08-20-2008, 11:26 PM
exactly.

philupondes
08-21-2008, 02:06 PM
exactly.

so if you wanted to un-tune, say for warranty issues you must pat that all aging?

springerdesigner
01-28-2009, 10:48 PM
just placed my order :twothumbs

hope I like this.

ClearImageAuto Dan
02-02-2009, 02:27 AM
just placed my order :twothumbs

hope I like this.

Thanks very much.

CARLYLE
03-27-2009, 08:41 PM
i ordered this tune but no one has got back to me yet? how long does it usually take for them to contact you?

Spanky's Monkey
03-27-2009, 09:34 PM
took a couple of days for me.

CARLYLE
03-30-2009, 05:49 PM
just got off the phone with beth so hopefully mine will be here next week so excited:twothumbs