if there is something in particular you guys would like to see made for your car please by all means post up or pm me or jon.if we like the idea we just might put it in production

what about a bigger fuel pump

PFT! How about something that will scramble radar/laser guns the cops use AND do the same to those fucking redlight and speed cameras. Build that and put me down for one.

pm'd

what about a bigger fuel pump

have you been to ottperformance lately??

maybe update the wot box now with a digital read out instead of trying to memorize blinky blinks?

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have you been to ottperformance lately??

no but i will right now.... sorry didnt know there was one yet that fit.

How about something like the Aeroforce interceptor but... affordable!! LOL

How about something that allows those of us who don't have an I-Pod jack in our car to play our I-Pods without having to use an FM modulator or hacking into our factory harnesses....

Or How about a harness that will allow us to swap out the 05-06 radio for the 07-08 with the I-Pod jack and 6 disc CD Changer...

maybe update the wot box now with a digital read out instead of trying to memorize blinky blinks?

what, you cant count?

How about something that allows those of us who don't have an I-Pod jack in our car to play our I-Pods without having to use an FM modulator or hacking into our factory harnesses....

Or How about a harness that will allow us to swap out the 05-06 radio for the 07-08 with the I-Pod jack and 6 disc CD Changer...

X2

I bought an FM modulator and it was the biggest waste of money, I don't even use it anymore cause the quality is so bad. 140 bucks down the drain!

ummm electronics wise... let me think...oh i kno

a proper fan switch kit. all you would have to do is make a relay with the wires built in for the switch. rite now MOST people including myself have some heavy guage wire stuck inside one of the pins on the fan relay.
make it one simple kit. not that hard to do.

PFT! How about something that will scramble radar/laser guns the cops use AND do the same to those fucking redlight and speed cameras. Build that and put me down for one.

Go a step father. I have been saying for years that two a GPS and a Radar detector company should get together. Imagine have a GPS that could give you a visual warning of where the cop is and you could identify hot spots.

what, you cant count?

i can count just fine. it would actually just be faster to have a display for the adjustable two step, and adjustment of the ms of dead time between shifts

How about something that allows those of us who don't have an I-Pod jack in our car to play our I-Pods without having to use an FM modulator or hacking into our factory harnesses....

Or How about a harness that will allow us to swap out the 05-06 radio for the 07-08 with the I-Pod jack and 6 disc CD Changer...

X2

I bought an FM modulator and it was the biggest waste of money, I don't even use it anymore cause the quality is so bad. 140 bucks down the drain!

I really REALLY want the new radio and for it to actually work...

How about something that allows those of us who don't have an I-Pod jack in our car to play our I-Pods without having to use an FM modulator or hacking into our factory harnesses....

Or How about a harness that will allow us to swap out the 05-06 radio for the 07-08 with the I-Pod jack and 6 disc CD Changer...

I have this for my 2006.. works awesome.
http://www.pie.net/pie_store/shopexd.asp?id=656&bc=no

maybe update the wot box now with a digital read out instead of trying to memorize blinky blinks?

I agree, I would like this as well.

make a little kit that allows you to turn the IC pump on whenever we want

make a little kit that allows you to turn the IC pump on whenever we want

I would like one that allows you to turn on the IC pump as well as the two fans and be able to adjust them. (50% or 100%) I have this now but it's more or less just a rigged up rocker switch.. I'd like a more refined solution. Great for the track.

I would like one that allows you to turn on the IC pump as well as the two fans and be able to adjust them. (50% or 100%) I have this now but it's more or less just a rigged up rocker switch.. I'd like a more refined solution. Great for the track.

ditto

ignition controller

I would like one that allows you to turn on the IC pump as well as the two fans and be able to adjust them. (50% or 100%) I have this now but it's more or less just a rigged up rocker switch.. I'd like a more refined solution. Great for the track.

What are these IC pumps and fans you speak of? Do you mean the radiator fan?

anyone have a service manual in pdf?

The intercooler pump and yea the radiator fans. Here's what some of us have done curtesy of wopontour:
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=23151&highlight=pump+switch

I don't particularly like jumping the relays to do this but I'm not smart enough to come up with a better solution.. help? :)

I would like one that allows you to turn on the IC pump as well as the two fans and be able to adjust them. (50% or 100%) I have this now but it's more or less just a rigged up rocker switch.. I'd like a more refined solution. Great for the track.

can't you do this with the interceptor? it has controls for fan high and fan low.

Nope the fan controls in the interceptor don't work, plus this is more for when the car is off. I know you can set the fans in HP tuners for when the car is on..

yea we need fans to be on and pump to be running when the car is in the "on" position but not running, without a shitload of wires running everywhere

ECS technology. We install this in every asian's car and as soon as they try to do some stupid shit like putting the car in reverse on a one way street, basically it comes out with a big black dick and SLAPS them in the face military style. ECS, electronic cock slapping technology...

ECS technology. We install this in every asian's car and as soon as they try to do some stupid shit like putting the car in reverse on a one way street, basically it comes out with a big black dick and SLAPS them in the face military style. ECS, electronic cock slapping technology...

between this and your dirty mexican comment with small rims on a car you are not painting a very nice picture of yourself and tolerance towards others. :lol:

ECS technology. We install this in every asian's car and as soon as they try to do some stupid shit like putting the car in reverse on a one way street, basically it comes out with a big black dick and SLAPS them in the face military style. ECS, electronic cock slapping technology...

what if they have to park;)

o wait y should i worry im not asian.

What are these IC pumps and fans you speak of? Do you mean the radiator fan?

Im pretty sure the IC Pump runs continuously. If it doesnt, where is the temp sensor for the IC coolant?

vtec controller...

vtec controller...

what???

lol.
What ya expect man.
But for the s/c guys that IC pump and fan thing would be great for track days.
I just want a sequential shift light since trying to keep track of rpm on this thing is getting difficult these days.

:lol:How about something that allows those of us who don't have an I-Pod jack in our car to play our I-Pods without having to use an FM modulator or hacking into our factory harnesses....

Or How about a harness that will allow us to swap out the 05-06 radio for the 07-08 with the I-Pod jack and 6 disc CD Changer...

I dont have an fm module or an ipod jack and im still able to play my ipod sucka lol :lol:

also maybe a fuel pump hotwire kit would be nice too.

what???

i own a civic and a cobalt haha

I just want a sequential shift light since trying to keep track of rpm on this thing is getting difficult these days.

Shift light is in the works... What's a sequential shift light?

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=119572

THIS ^^^^ I want to know what is up with this

between this and your dirty mexican comment with small rims on a car you are not painting a very nice picture of yourself and tolerance towards others. :lol:

You have been upgraded from "possibly thinking about catching on" to "starting to catch on".

Go a step father. I have been saying for years that two a GPS and a Radar detector company should get together. Imagine have a GPS that could give you a visual warning of where the cop is and you could identify hot spots.

I had this idea too, combine it with link up between units and it will pin point cops for other users as well. Would be funny to be able to point and wave at a hidden cop

Shift light is in the works... What's a sequential shift light?

F1 Style, usually 4 leds that start flashing in succession closer you get to redline. usually 1 green, 1 yellow, 2 red

Shift light would be awsome!

I back up the whole IC Pump/fans thing... anything to help cool these cars down is something you will sell tons of.

I back up the whole IC Pump/fans thing... anything to help cool these cars down is something you will sell tons of.

It looks like there is currently a solution. Maybe we could improve on that by making it automated, perhaps incorporate a temperature measurement so that the fans will run until the car is cool and then automatically shut off?

It looks like there is currently a solution. Maybe we could improve on that by making it automated, perhaps incorporate a temperature measurement so that the fans will run until the car is cool and then automatically shut off?

i still think we would like to be able to controlly it manually, again the IC PUmp is the main thing

And maybe you could help us with a better way to wire it up instead of jumping the relays in the fuse box?

Yes... Better wiring solution.

hptuners does all the ic pump and fan stuff. but the sequentail shift light is a great idea

hptuners does all the ic pump and fan stuff. but the sequentail shift light is a great idea

no it doesnt

Shift light is in the works... What's a sequential shift light?

I believe they mean a shift light that signals different rpms by light instead of just lighting when you reach the predetermined rpm; sort of like the shift light in the redline competition package. I guess you'd call it a variable rpm shift light? But as most people know we can't use traditional shift lights with our cars without a "tach adapter", the raptor works as well.

i got tuned with hptuners and my ic pump goes on when i turn the car on and stays on till i shut it off, and my fans come on at the same time. it was all setup in hptuners

i got tuned with hptuners and my ic pump goes on when i turn the car on and stays on till i shut it off, and my fans come on at the same time. it was all setup in hptuners

when the car is running maybe, we are talking car on, engine not

ok if i put my car in the on postition not running both come on. if my car is completly shut off then no nothing happens

what about an interface that would allow us to see the car's different readings through an av input for an in-dash navigation unit? I think that would be a really good idea. No need for interceptors to be able to see everything. Pages of gauges that you could select and browse through.

ok if i put my car in the on postition not running both come on. if my car is completly shut off then no nothing happens

realllllllly.... shit well then that's what i need. I wish HP Tuners wasn't $600.. :( I didn't realize you could have it set up that way. Thanks for clearing that up! :cssNET:

if we could find male and female connectors and pins we could make something pretty easy to install.no matter what you would still need to hook up at least 3 wires but two would be to the battery and you would have to run one wire into the passenger compartment to the switch and ground the switch.

If this is true that this can be done with no wiring at all, then that is preferred. I always thought with the HP Tuners solution the car had to be running. I'm trying to find someone in the area that has it so I can check this out.

unless you have open source to the pcm like the evo there is nothing that you can do that doesnt require no wiring at all.packages like the hptuners,sct and diablo all given you access to the pcm but some are not complete open source.

ok if i put my car in the on postition not running both come on. if my car is completly shut off then no nothing happens

please pm me how you did this, ive tried everything.

you can use VCM controls with the car on and not running to turn them on.

you can use VCM controls with the car on and not running to turn them on.

im retarded then, ive tried and they most def. do not turn on. anyone feel free to PM me. maybe its different on 05's?

hmm I remember it working on my car, but alas no more s/c or IC pump so I can't go out and test it.

hmm I remember it working on my car, but alas no more s/c or IC pump so I can't go out and test it.

any old saved files from the slow days?

I received my copy of HP Tuners this week and verified that it is indeed possible to to set the IC pump and fans to come on with the key on and the engine off. PM if you need details how to do this.

At any rate.. it seems this is a cleaner solution than a wiring kit.

For those VERY few of us running the stage 3 pcm, a wiring kit is the only solution...

But then again, since it is just a few of us, I don't see it as being cost effective :(

something that allows us to put an 07-08 radio in an 05-06

i still like the sequential shift light idea

i still like the sequential shift light idea

Well, we can't easily do a sequential shift light with the WOT Box. It only has support for a single light. We could make a new product that would do it, but I assume there are others on the market already.... Are there not? Are they too expensive? We could do one, if there aren't already good options out there....

me too, car revs too damn fast now to even attempt to watch the tach or the single shift light I have inthe aeroforce, by the time it goes off, it's already too late lol

as far as I know there isn't anything for our cars. but I do have a nice nology one sitting at my job that I haven't had a chance to install yet. But i'm not sure if it will work so far

me too, car revs too damn fast now to even attempt to watch the tach or the single shift light I have inthe aeroforce, by the time it goes off, it's already too late lol

as far as I know there isn't anything for our cars. but I do have a nice nology one sitting at my job that I haven't had a chance to install yet. But i'm not sure if it will work so far

Yeah, that should work... It is expensive for just 4 LEDs... The WOT Box isn't much more $$...

Maybe I should add a sequential shift light to the WOT box... hmmm....

I'm diggin' this idea as well :) It would be nice if you could mount them remotely from the WOT box, like the A pillar as an example. When you have a helmet on it limits where you can actually put it and be able to see it.

I'm diggin' this idea as well :) It would be nice if you could mount them remotely from the WOT box, like the A pillar as an example. When you have a helmet on it limits where you can actually put it and be able to see it.

Yeah, I think I would just do individual LEDs that you can mount wherever you want:

http://parts.digikey.com/images/6/41/56/2.jpg

very nice, I'd be one of the first to snag that up.
as for the nology one, I got it for free for doing work for someone that didn't have any cash lol. Still just sitting in a box for about 1.5 years now

ya gtech makes a huge tach with a sequential shift light. it costs over 500 bucks then you have to buy the extras too

PFT! How about something that will scramble radar/laser guns the cops use AND do the same to those fucking redlight and speed cameras. Build that and put me down for one.

i second this

oooo what about a nice heads up display with spped tach directionals radio channel. the ones that were on the corvette and gtps. and when you turn the car on it could show css.net and the company logo. ha ha that would be sooo cool to have and simple to make. it could be a data logger too and check codes

simple to make??? wha?

oooo what about a nice heads up display with spped tach directionals radio channel. the ones that were on the corvette and gtps. and when you turn the car on it could show css.net and the company logo. ha ha that would be sooo cool to have and simple to make. it could be a data logger too and check codes

sounds expensive LOL

lingenfelter used to make one sold it for 200 bucks for the lt1's. but its made already for the gtps and vettes since they are both gm and both obd2's i dont see why it couldnt be ported over to these cars, everyone likes them and they are just really really cool to have. its just telling you whats on your sensors in the motor already. and its not hard to read those codes and log everything going on with a small very small amount of memory on the products

So, we've been talking about the idea of making our own sequential shift light product. I just realized that we have a product already that might fit the bill.

Take a look at this product:
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/toybox_2_0_no_hom_small.jpg http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/toybox_2_0_hom_small.jpg
http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/toybox_2_0_angle_small.jpg http://www.npcompleteperformance.com/toybox_2_0_package_small.jpg

I could reprogram that product to make a sequential shift light. While they are all blue LEDs, I could set it to blink one LED of the 7 and add one LED at a time around the circle until it reaches the shift point where all the LEDs will be blinking and it will be really bright....

It can also drive an external LED that will flash as well when it hits the target, or it can flash the extra built in LED on the top of the box.

The numeric display will make it easy to program the shift point using the button and no computer.

It seems like you might want other colors than blue for the sequential shift light, but from my experiments, I found the blue light to be the best for daylight visibility. Also, if you think about it, you don't see colors in your peripheral vision, so maybe the colors aren't that important?

Let me know what you think. The good thing about using the existing product we have and just changing the software is that it is ready right now and is pretty inexpensive.

I can try it out on my car and see how well it works.

Also, if you're not a fan of the mounting tabs, we can substitute a plain back cover like this:
http://www.hammondmfg.com/jpeg/1551PTBUR_B.jpg
http://www.hammondmfg.com/jpeg/1551PTBUI_B.jpg

Then you could just use velcro to hold it in place on your dash...

That sounds pretty good.

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That sounds pretty good.

What do you think it is worth? ;)

Also, tabs or no tabs?

Ha I hate when people ask me that question lol.
I do know I've seen other ones over $100, but those are usually the multi-colored LED ones' .

What do you think it is worth? ;)

Also, tabs or no tabs?

tabs would be good for those that want to flush mount them into the pillar ( I would)

Ha I hate when people ask me that question lol.
I do know I've seen other ones over $100, but those are usually the multi-colored LED ones' .



tabs would be good for those that want to flush mount them into the pillar ( I would)

Ok, cool. Tabs would be the default option. No tabs would be an upgrade. For uh, $1.

Hmm... We could probably sell it for $89. How does that sound?

I think it would make more sense to make the LED's come on solid sequentially until the desired shift point then blink them all in unison. Thoughts?

I think it would make more sense to make the LED's come on solid sequentially until the desired shift point then blink them all in unison. Thoughts?

Sounds good. I can do that...

We have full dimming control over the LEDs, so you can think about ideas with dim / bright or fade in / fade out. Although, fading is probably not good for grabbing your attention.

Also, we can make a lot of these things options that you can set through the menus. Then you can customize how yours works... Along with the set point and the sequential shift LED spacing. I.e. Shift at 6200 rpm, but start bringing on the LEDs in 100 RPM increments below that point. You could adjust the shift point and the increment...

Question. I have a MSD digital shift light already and it allows me to set different rpm's for different gears. For example, I can set it to blink at 5000 rpm when i'm in 1st gear then have it blink at 6500 rpm when i'm in 2nd gear, etc..

Would you be able to include that functionality as well?

Question. I have a MSD digital shift light already and it allows me to set different rpm's for different gears. For example, I can set it to blink at 5000 rpm when i'm in 1st gear then have it blink at 6500 rpm when i'm in 2nd gear, etc..

Would you be able to include that functionality as well?

Interesting. How does it do that? Do you have it connected to your vehicle speed sensor as well? We do have code to do that, but it requires MPH and RPM...

this is a pretty cool product

Interesting. How does it do that? Do you have it connected to your vehicle speed sensor as well? We do have code to do that, but it requires MPH and RPM...

I'm not sure exactly how it works. I would guess that it just counts the rpms and guesses what gear it's in? It's very accurate though. Here's the link:
http://www.shopatron.com/moredetail/tp=spec/product_id=8963/424.0.15573.0.0.0.0

It uses the signal from the coil packs on cyl 1.

I'm not sure exactly how it works. I would guess that it just counts the rpms and guesses what gear it's in? It's very accurate though. Here's the link:
http://www.shopatron.com/moredetail/tp=spec/product_id=8963/424.0.15573.0.0.0.0

It uses the signal from the coil packs on cyl 1.

Interesting. I saw that one, but didn't see that feature mentioned in the user's guide. Well, I could try it.

But, I am curious. Why would you want to shift at a different RPM in each gear? Doesn't it usually make sense to pick the same shift point for all gears?

Interesting. I saw that one, but didn't see that feature mentioned in the user's guide. Well, I could try it.

But, I am curious. Why would you want to shift at a different RPM in each gear? Doesn't it usually make sense to pick the same shift point for all gears?

Only if you are geared the same in all gears, I would think. We certainly have some short and some long gears....

Only if you are geared the same in all gears, I would think. We certainly have some short and some long gears....

Good point.

Well, we could certainly figure out the gear during a hard acceleration from a stop, but I would imagine that it might be difficult to stay accurate during highway driving with slow shifts.... hmm....

i was thinking it would be pretty easy for you to make a little product that would limit the car to 30mph or so like a vallet key.... it would be sweet when you dont trust a shop or a friend

i was thinking it would be pretty easy for you to make a little product that would limit the car to 30mph or so like a vallet key.... it would be sweet when you dont trust a shop or a friend

That would be pretty cool.

ive got all kinds of ideas

This sounds promising, cant wait till its done.

i was thinking it would be pretty easy for you to make a little product that would limit the car to 30mph or so like a vallet key.... it would be sweet when you dont trust a shop or a friend

I was thinking about this some more. Can it be a hard ignition cut? Or does it need to be something smooth?

We could do the hard ignition cut in the WOT Box, but it will be pretty aggressive. When it kicks in, you'll feel it hard.

Or, we could do a really smooth limiter where it clamps the drive by wire signal and prevents the car from accelerating above 30 mph, no matter how hard you push on the pedal. But, that would have to be a new, separate product...

well if it was hard it would be funy to fuck with the manager of a store cause the kid was messing around in your car... ha ha ha ha. im not sure, how violent are we talking, like break stuff violent?

Well, I guess as hard as hitting the rev limiter... Not fun, but gets the point across... It probably wouldn't be that violent if you weren't in WOT, but if you are... It's not fun.

try setting it at 2k rpms and see what happens with the car. i know i can get anywhere i want to be under 2k rpms and not have the car be bogging out the whole time.