I've had an 06 GTO M6 for the past 6 months, love the car and the power.

Have had a few problems with it, dealer related. They have offered to buy back the car so I am looking into either another GTO or possibly a Cobalt TC.

From what I understand, the reason to wait for an 09 is for the radio/bluetooth stuff as well as the RPD. Are there any other real changes I missed? If that is the only differences then I may just try to find an 08.

I am curious about the seat of the pants power feel of each car though. Power wise to the GTO, I know the TC is slower stock, but what about after the Hahn exhaust/tune? After something relatively cheap to perform, is the TC going to feel fast like the GTO? Does throwing on an exhaust and tune void out all of the warranties?

How is the interior quality of the TC?

Car will be a daily driver just as the GTO was.

Reliability?

Thanks for the suggestions.

Edit: What's the furthest you can go with modding and still keeping the warranties intact? The 5 year 100,000 sounds nice on a car like this.

 

Hahn has nailed 13.2@104 on street tires with there tuner and catback. Your warranty will be fine with either part.

The interior goes about as far as sweet seats otherwise the price of the car starts to show, alot of plastic not ugly though.

Reliablity has yet to be seen in the lnf for the cobalts, but i have not heard of anything to crazy with the gxp/redline guys.

 

stick with pontiacs holden homage.

G8 GXP.

game over.

 

it looks like it is going to be one badass little car. Bill Hahn himself laid down a 13.2 with cat-back and tune on STOCK tires. the car has potential. and as you would imagine, you get what you pay for...interior is good for a 22k economy car but the seats are bitchin! i would stick with the gto though

 

The tune will void you warranty.

 

Think gas would be the huge dealmaker here...Ofcourse the balt isnt going to hang w/ a 400 hp ls2 without some work...Though it looks like the new tc wont need much to see 12 second passes.

 

I was kinda in the same boat as you were. I was looking at an 05 GTO with 3,000 miles on it, or the Cobalt SS/TC. I opted for the Cobalt because I wanted to tinker with another Ecotec car and of course, this one comes stock with a turbo. I have an 05 Mustang GT that is just about as fast as an LS2 GTO, so there really wasnt a point in having 2 v8 beasts, LOL. I love the fact that I can tinker with some people on the road with my Cobalt and if some big dog wants to play I can go home and get my Mustang, LOL.

 

No it won't.

 

Please explain this one to me?

If they catch you, which is a toss up, they will void your warranty.

 

My car doesn't have a stock part on it and its under warranty. Matter of fact i got a maf sensor warrantied a month ago. Its all about the dealer.

 

The tune would have to be the culprit to the problem if there is one. That would be the only way it would be found. Read the Magnuson-Moss act.

 

I'll trade you my ss/sc for your GTO haha

 

ill trade u my 08ss tc for ur gto.. just get it across the border tho

 

truth. truth. same here. i got nitrous and i am under warranty.

 

The tune changes the original engineering intent for the whole powertrain. You exceed the 'original intent' & the dealer/GM notices = you pay.

Until you get caught and the dealer says "no soup for you".

 

Thank you Krispy, I knew this was the truth, but I needed some assistance in proving my point.

 

My buddy has an 05 GTO 6spd manual, and loves his car. Stock for Stock, of course the GTO will be quicker than a stock Cobalt SS/TC... Of course once the mods start coming out, and once a turbo upgrade is available on the SS/TC it'll be just as fast as a stock GTO, now GTO, there are plenty of mods that you can do of course that would put shame to even a modded SS/TC...

If you want better gas mileage, of course Cobalt SS/TC > Pontiac GTO

As far as quality goes Cobalt SS/TC < Pontiac GTO x10...

Reliability, that I don't know. My balt has been reliable in the sense that it only broke down on me once... due to a faulty crank sensor that was replaced under warranty... But as far as quality goes the GTO's is much better than the Cobalt...

Again with gas the Cobalt will be a better daily driver, but will it be just as much fun as the GTO? That I can't say...

If I were you I'd stick with the GTO, or try and get a G8 GT, or GXP....

 

I say Gto I love my car i wip my friends ass in his mustang gt but still got to trade cars with him just to fill that v8 can hush!!! sliding around a few corners is kinda fun!

 

If gas cost isn't an issue I say stay w/ GTO.

 

any performance modifications can potentially void your powertrain warranty. now, thats not to say if your rear speaker quits working they wont cover it because you have an exhaust and tune... your exterior and interior non-powertrain related parts are covered.

 

read magnuson moss act again..

i have lowering springs full exhaust tune strut tower bar.. i've had warrenty work done on my suspension, exhaust work on my carback when i just had the header and DP ..

it's all about your relationship with your dealership my dealership told me when i was throwing a code from my high flow cat to put on my stock one so i can pass inspection then put my aftermarket one back on after i passed lol

i told the service guy i was getting tuned to fix it and he said that works too and should give you some nice extra HP just be careful lol

i say get the ss/tc though .. only because of the gas prices and the fact that by spending 1.5k you'll have a low 13 second car that will hang with a gto ....

unless your gonnna go with the g8gt

the ss/tc is pretty sweet and when hptuners unlocks it then i forsee some mid to low 12 second ss tcs for very small amount of mods

 

Ok, I will get around to reading that because I am actually interested in legal speak, but the fact of the matter is you probably can still lose your warranty. Are you really going to hire a lawyer to go after GM's legal dept after they decline warranty coverage because your tuner blew up your motor?

The act only protects those that are represented properly...which costs $$

 

Moss-maggie does not say "you can modify the product how you see fit and expect the OEM to cover it when it breaks due to your modifications."

Here is what chevy.com says about warranty coverage:

WHAT IS NOT COVERED
As the vehicle owner, you are responsible for the performance of the scheduled maintenance listed in your Owner's Manual. In addition to the "What Is Not Covered" section of the Warranty Booklet, this Powertrain Limited Warranty does not cover the following items:
Powertrain wear items, such as clutch linings
Wear items, such as brake pads and shoes
Scheduled maintenance items, such as filters, coolants and fluids
Any damage caused by owner/lessee failure to follow scheduled maintenance may not be covered by warranty
Damage due to accident, misuse, alteration or contaminated or poor quality fuel

 

ti doesn't say that you can expect them to cover it .. but if you have a catback and nothing else and your engine blows.. no way in hell can they void your engine warranty.. the exhaust has nothing to do with the engine popping.
it does say they have to prove the modification caused the damage... if you have an intake and you destroy your engine.. and they can press you managed to hydrolock your engine ... they cant say your intake ruined your struts if one blows

 

Yes, all of that is true. However, in this thread we basically have people going around saying tunes/nitrous won't affect your warranty and thats simply not true. If a dealer founds out about it when you come in with something broken and they don't like it, you can get the related warranties cancelled. Modifications like nitrous or an engine tune run the chance of voiding the whole powertrain warranty.