heres some pics and a video of a 3 gear pull and a wot shift into 4th

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/turbo-cobalt_175241.htm

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=41247&catid=newimages
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/showimage.php?i=41245&catid=newimages

damn thats a pretty fast 3rd gear pull!!

damn thats a pretty fast 3rd gear pull!!

He didn't even take it to redline man...

Stock block or built?

IIRC, stock with a spare motor on the side incase of failure

still stock motor and not fully dialed in yet. we were having an issue with the turbo mounting bolts backing out, but that's all fixed now. I'll be up there the 17th finishing tuning the car on a full 22 psi.
I'll also have my new clutch in and my new meth kit installed the day before (going to put a lot of miles on it that day lol) and I'll be hitting the dyno too and trying to dial my car back in since it's been months since I last tuned it. also shooting for 23-24 psi on meth and should hit @430-440whp if all goes well

Is it me or are you missing your fogs?

Who installed your front mount? Way crooked and why did you cut your fogs out? What turbo are you using? Other then that, niCe

Shoot, I'm wondering how much you turbo guys have wrapped up in the set-up.

not alot of money i got a gt30/71r and the front mount isnt messed up its my bumper and that pull was from 40 to 100 so i dont know

thats it. im going turbo. what kit shoul di go with? : )

build your own man its not to bad me and my buddy did mine

as long as you know what to get and spend the money in the right places, building your own kit really isn't that hard. My first setup I did for the cheap and only spent @$1300 and made 365whp. My new setup cost money though lol.
As for the foglights, I had to get rid of mine too to fit the charge piping and the massive FMIC I have in the car. And turbo is the way to go on these cars. My first setup just about completely untuned put down 326whp 297wtq @18psi. Tuned at 21psi it made 365whp and now with the new turbo it should be up @430-440whp @23psi.

that thing looks nice and clean..im sure it runs real nice too

Does that $1300 include the fuel system upgrades too? I remember you having a walbro, with or without converting to return-style?

Nice.

But take those blue couplers off and replace them with some black or red ones!

i will i bought it as a kit for now to see if the motor holds up and runs good

i will i bought it as a kit for now to see if the motor holds up and runs good

Word. Thats what I figured, I was just throwing some insight out there.

Does that $1300 include the fuel system upgrades too? I remember you having a walbro, with or without converting to return-style?

no that was on 60's and stock fuel pump.
not running a return line even still on the car, switched to a walbro high pressure and 79lb/hr injectors... no probs.
He's running the same fuel system

Paul, why aren't you using the extra 4 injectors for the hahn manifold? Wouldn't that

1. Make it possible to leave the flow rate modifier alone

2. Lower your maf calibration numbers

?

dammit man, i get off the phone with you telling you how im jealous of hte turbo guys and then you make me watch this. thanks.

car sounds freaking awesome and scoots man. hey paul or bigolred you guys mind sending me a PM with your budget turbo build information or directing me to a thread you have already made on it?

that car sounds awesome. Congarts on an awesome build.

dammit man, i get off the phone with you telling you how im jealous of hte turbo guys and then you make me watch this. thanks.

car sounds freaking awesome and scoots man. hey paul or bigolred you guys mind sending me a PM with your budget turbo build information or directing me to a thread you have already made on it?

I"m pretty sure I have a list somewhere. but here it is off the top of my head:
Ebay turbo (cx racing or something) @$250
ebay intercooler @$60
Ebay piping kit usually comes with t-bolts and couplers (cut and make it fit lol) $125 (need 2 one 2.5" one 3")
Some 3" ss mandrel bends for the exhaust @$65
Vulcan turbo mani $325 or sp
79lb/hr injectors $315 shipped
Tial 38mm wastegate $229
greddy type rs bov $85 or so
Turbosmart MBC $120
ebay oil line kit @$80
fiitting for oil feed you can get from hahn or turbotech
and that's pretty much it.

I"m pretty sure I have a list somewhere. but here it is off the top of my head:
Ebay turbo (cx racing or something) @$250
ebay intercooler @$60
Ebay piping kit usually comes with t-bolts and couplers (cut and make it fit lol) $125 (need 2 one 2.5" one 3")
Some 3" ss mandrel bends for the exhaust @$65
Vulcan turbo mani $325 or sp
79lb/hr injectors $315 shipped
Tial 38mm wastegate $229
greddy type rs bov $85 or so
Turbosmart MBC $120
ebay oil line kit @$80
fiitting for oil feed you can get from hahn or turbotech
and that's pretty much it.

what did you use for the intake manifold?

Paul, why aren't you using the extra 4 injectors for the hahn manifold? Wouldn't that

1. Make it possible to leave the flow rate modifier alone

2. Lower your maf calibration numbers

?

no money at the moment to run a complete seperate fuel system and buy the computer, plus I have it running perfectly for my power levels at the moment on the 79's and the walbro pump
as for the maf I'm only hitting 10400 right now at redline and 22 psi. so I still have some room to play. Once the built motor is finally done (god knows when) I'll be hooking up that other rail and run a set of 60's in there for top end fueling.
But the car idle's and drives like stock with the 79lb/hr injectors, so why mess with it now.

what did you use for the intake manifold?

some 3" stainless piping, basically a long 3" bend and had some flanges cut to match the tb and the s/c base

umm chris you didn't tell me paul would be at the dyno day lol nice vid man .. i like the fog lights cut out .. and front mounts make balts look realll mean lol looking forward to seeing how much power that fmic can actually take before it starts being a big restriction :)

no money at the moment to run a complete seperate fuel system and buy the computer, plus I have it running perfectly for my power levels at the moment on the 79's and the walbro pump
as for the maf I'm only hitting 10400 right now at redline and 22 psi. so I still have some room to play. Once the built motor is finally done (god knows when) I'll be hooking up that other rail and run a set of 60's in there for top end fueling.
But the car idle's and drives like stock with the 79lb/hr injectors, so why mess with it now.



some 3" stainless piping, basically a long 3" bend and had some flanges cut to match the tb and the s/c base

Makes sense...I think I may be going with the hahn and the extra fuel injectors..but i'm going to jump right into using the extra injectors hoping that it will make tuning a tad bit easier....

Yo I still have a text message from you I believe from like 2 years ago haha saying you were wasted on new years eve...i was just looking through my old phone for phone numbers and saw it haha good times

lol damn I did send you that . When you getting your ass out to another meet man, we should have the dyno the 17th if you want to come down, just gotta let me or chris know asap

umm chris you didn't tell me paul would be at the dyno day lol nice vid man .. i like the fog lights cut out .. and front mounts make balts look realll mean lol looking forward to seeing how much power that fmic can actually take before it starts being a big restriction :)

of course man, who'd you think is tuning his car lol.
I'll be back up there the 16t and the 17th (dyno on the 17th) and if all goes well with my clutch install saturday, I'm gonna put some miles on the bitch and hit the dyno the 17th too with meth and 24 psi of goodness

Makes sense...I think I may be going with the hahn and the extra fuel injectors..but i'm going to jump right into using the extra injectors hoping that it will make tuning a tad bit easier....

Yo I still have a text message from you I believe from like 2 years ago haha saying you were wasted on new years eve...i was just looking through my old phone for phone numbers and saw it haha good times

as for the extra injectors, it should be cool, not exactly sure on how the tuning works for it, but I'd assume just zero out the PE table and leave all power enrichment fuelin to the 2nd set of injectors and just use the pcm for part throttle and idle

lol damn I did send you that . When you getting your ass out to another meet man, we should have the dyno the 17th if you want to come down, just gotta let me or chris know asap



of course man, who'd you think is tuning his car lol.
I'll be back up there the 16t and the 17th (dyno on the 17th) and if all goes well with my clutch install saturday, I'm gonna put some miles on the bitch and hit the dyno the 17th too with meth and 24 psi of goodness



as for the extra injectors, it should be cool, not exactly sure on how the tuning works for it, but I'd assume just zero out the PE table and leave all power enrichment fuelin to the 2nd set of injectors and just use the pcm for part throttle and idle

oh i knew you were tuning it but i didnt know you were gong to the dyno day .. / didn't know your weren't finished tuning his car

maybe i'll make a stop in CT on my way home from indiana MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA that'd be an exhausting day lol ... how's the house hunting going?

dyno's in NY (florida I think).
found a house I want in warwick just waiting to get my money out of a c/d so I can use it

and what you doin in indy?

I can't wait to actually put some boost to my car. 17-18 lbs is just keeping me at around 300.

What kind of power are you looking for with 24psi? and whats the EBay turbo supposed to be? 50 trim?

ebay turbo I ran before was a .57 trim, but you can run a .50 or .60
with 24psi and meth injection I'm hoping to break the 440whp record that hahn made ( on a built motor). and 400wtq. Once the meth is finally in I can get a little more aggressive with my timing,
just a little example:
car made 369whp on 19.50 psi, 411whp at 22.35 psi so a litte boost goes a long way on this turbo, that and I'm still not running it full out (28psi)

dyno's in NY (florida I think).
found a house I want in warwick just waiting to get my money out of a c/d so I can use it

and what you doin in indy?

visiting my brother.. possibly paying a visit to hahn and we're going out to colorado for a week lol so i'll be visiting both the guys helping me out with my setup if everything goes as planned

yea i was talking to chris and sent him the link to .sickspeed performance.com and he said he thinks thats the place.. those rates are pretty good considering it's 4 runs with a/f i figure when we have my car getting worked on we can hit there and do a before and afterrun :twothumbs

yea i gotta start looking for apartments again lol i found one place that was good but who knows if it's still on the market

well I'll be living up there and probably about 5 minutes from that dyno so I'll be there a lot plus we can probably rent it out to tune your car

well I'll be living up there and probably about 5 minutes from that dyno so I'll be there a lot plus we can probably rent it out to tune your car

muhahahah that'll be another expense but ya gotta do what you gotta do sometimes lol

ebay turbo I ran before was a .57 trim, but you can run a .50 or .60
with 24psi and meth injection I'm hoping to break the 440whp record that hahn made ( on a built motor). and 400wtq. Once the meth is finally in I can get a little more aggressive with my timing,
just a little example:
car made 369whp on 19.50 psi, 411whp at 22.35 psi so a litte boost goes a long way on this turbo, that and I'm still not running it full out (28psi)

With a couple of psi I'm not going to make another 70 horses. You are doing something right that I'm not getting thats for sure. I'm hoping for 325-340 at 22 psi.

I hope you get the power your looking for. If you do I'll have to take my car to NY so you can work some majic.

it's an easy formula big turbo- big air flow. For every psi I gain @35whp or so. since it's moving @1000 cfm or something rediculous around that boost level.
Throw on a bigger turbo, ball bearing, and 22 psi (and still fast spool) you'll be hitting some nive numbers.
With chris's car we're aiming for 22 psi and 385whp or so

I did go to a bigger turbo LoL. Now I'm on brand name turbo a t3t4 50trim.

I should have listened and tried harder to fit the 60-1 in their.

60-1 is a bit laggy. the gt3071 & gt3076 are where it's at. 60-1 does make rediculous mid and top end power though. Gt3071 spools basically like the stock s/c

So the GT3071R (.50 compressor and .63 turbine) can spool quick and hold it through the powerband, should be good for a mild turbo build of say 375hp? I'm compiling a list. Damn Paul, maybe I should go to DPA again so we can talk, but that 6hr drive sucks............

well soon "Ill be a bit closer man. I'm moving about an hour upstate. gt3071 should be fine for that level, jannetty is making 400/406 on one

I doubt you'll ever that close to me, lol. Unless you want to live 29 miles from Canada. I'm guessing how much it will cost to piece together a turbo kit, so far I'm at $3900. I'm wondering now if it's worth piecing it together or just buying the Hahn kit. My biggest thing is trying to keep the daily driver reliability on a stock block (stock internals, head, etc). That's why I figure a GT3071R with about 16-18psi with a conservative tune.

nice bro... im lookin to get rid of some turbo parts... turbo, wastegate, fmic

damn all4 what you from potsdam or watertown or something?

Watertown.................

Watertown.................

LOL not to happy about that?

my bro went to clarkson university in potsdam we went to water town a few times for the mall since that was the only one that was worth going to in the area lol

There really isn't much in the area, and the only show (for our cars) within a decent drive is SCTB in Oswego. Plus the cops up here kind of hate the military so we get screwed often on BS tickets.

Hey Paul I know you just tuned my car not long ago, but you're right, i'm used to it now lol. My buddy just went turbo and It seems to be the way to go. I could only trust you as my mentor since you're everyone elses. Where should I go for a good starting kit and what are some prices I should be looking at? How did you do it?

well my car was done by me and Kenny at C/A originally, then worked with Hahn for the newer parts.
If you have the skill and a competant welding/fab shop you can make it yourself using some basic parts. Or just buy one of the Hahn kits and not have to worry about custom fitting anything.

lol and I told you you'd get used to it.

lol yep you were right. What I might do is buy a garrett gt30 turbo and work around that. I just dont know where to make the money count most. What's a good turbo mani/intake mani?

well my car was done by me and Kenny at C/A originally, then worked with Hahn for the newer parts.
If you have the skill and a competant welding/fab shop you can make it yourself using some basic parts. Or just buy one of the Hahn kits and not have to worry about custom fitting anything.

lol and I told you you'd get used to it.

good turbo mani is www.vulcanturbo.com They have a nice log style or equal length setup.
Intake mani, well, Hahn is the only way to go man. Great piece.
or for starters you can get the ATP turbo s/c delete kit and use the stock base intake manifold.

very nice

update
just pulled off the dyno, fixed the meth issue
395/353 corrected whp/wtq on a mustang dyno on a pretty safe tune.

/thread lol

update
just pulled off the dyno, fixed the meth issue
395/353 corrected whp/wtq on a mustang dyno on a pretty safe tune.

/thread lol

DAMN!!!!!!! and thats off a 50trim ?!

gt3071r
update just pulled my car off the dyno
414/378 corrected mustang'd dyno'd whp/wtq

Where in New York are all these balts at lol? I am up visiting from Halifax and I havent seen one driving around.

New clutch in the balt?

u guys and ur turbo's make me sick to my stomache with all that power u guys are making that im not :lol:

paul lives in the city i live 1 hour from i made good #s today little scared but next time 400wheel easy fix couple little things and good to go

pauls not home yet he went back now he does have the new clutch in

dam man if you only didn't turn the MBC down one cick before the last pull you woulda definitely broke 400whp. I gotta say man. you're car is sick on the streets.
and yes I finally have a fully functional clutch in my car, stock one didn't even look that bad

i know whatever you know the deal 2 400wheel cobalts in the same town oh no

yeah man, we;re gonna be putting a hurtin on people

ALL we need now is the same power in a RL. I take donations.................

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/NEW-DYNO-VIDEO-turbo-up_177771.htm?ref=cdd1225e-e015-459a-9db3-98fb016f4a9a

And of course there you are either datalogging or tuning in the passenger seat.

lol of course.. need to keep an eye on what my baby was doing.... plus my leg was tired from that clutch, migt as make someone else gets some exercise lol

Did you go with the Exedy hyper single?

yeah man, shit is a beast of a clutch

I never heard a bad review of it. I hope the one GM gave me will hold when I put 23psi to her get the 2step going. So far so good, I hope they release it soon.