Yea, sometimes I don't understand GM. I am contemplating between the Cobalt and the Dodge SRT-4. I dunno, the SRT-4 has so much more power and options for the same price as the Chevy. I wish Chevy would bring their prices down. They are getting expensive.

As for Saturn, I wish that they or Buick disappeared before Olds did. I liked Olds a lot.

The SRT-4 has more bang-for-the-buck performance wise, but I've driven one and it doesn't have great options at all... the Cobalt SS has a lot more options and looks like a higher class car. I imagine if Dodge made an SRT-4 with all of the Cobalts options it would cost more.

I agree about Saturn, I really don't like them. I had a lady come in to trade an '02 SL, and black book values showed the worst depreciation I've seen on anything. J cars hold up much better, which is scary given that Saturn has no haggle pricing.

yeah i agree, the interior of the cobalt looks so much cleaner and has more options. I believe the SRT-4 is basically the same interior as a neon just has a lot more umph to it. The cobalts interior is Be-yoo-ti-full

Well I would get a SRT-4 but i cant, and wont. , Period

Reason one, my parents both are GM employees, ie i never get a car made by non union, foreign or by a competitor.

Reason two, Have you ever seen a 2 door SRT-4?
who wants a 4 door tuner? it just does not look appealing to me.

Reason three, The Wing on the thing suxs, where does dodge come up with their designs, did someone look at the super market and see a shopping cart and go, wow i think the neon needs a a spoiler so people can push em when they break down/fall apart.

Reason four, The Cobalt. :D

Reason two, Have you ever seen a 2 door SRT-4?
who wants a 4 door tuner?

You nailed it so good!
I was just thinking about that the other day. The Cobalt SS is gonna be so much more stylish. :)

Reason two, Have you ever seen a 2 door SRT-4?
who wants a 4 door tuner? it just does not look appealing to me.



Well, there is the WRX. I understand your point but i think that is the only car that can pass as a good looking 4 door tuner and last for a LONG time and keep its value up. EVO blows, SRT-4 blows. Their engines give up and crap out around 60,000 miles.
dont get me wrong, i see where you are comming from. My parents have never bought anything outside of GM other than a Ford van which cought on fire due to electrical follys and my brothers and my frod probe(same car) which had the tranny go about 3 times. I just think GM can do a little better. Other than that, i rahter put a little more money down on a WRX than i would a RedLine or Cobalt SS.

I like the WRX and everything, but i like the EVOs body style 100x more. The SRT-4 IMO is just crap. I like that comment about being able to push it like a grocery cart though lol

evo gag me

I used to really like Evo's, but now that they've been out for a while growing reliability issues (clutch for example) make it less and less appealing. Not to mention the fact that Mitsu is falling closer and closer to going out of business and the recent defect cover up scandals they've had. I like the WRX, it's a pretty well made car but I'm starting to see quite a bit around now. I only like the car in blue, and it seems like everyone else has the same opinion, it's the only colour I ever see.

Anyways, back to Saturn's revisions... I see that GM wants to spread developement cost over two divisions with the Redline and Cobalt SS S/C, but seriously... SATURN??? I know GM's habit of rebadging everything sucks, and they are gettting away from that by using two completely different bodies that aren't even sold by the same dealers, but in my opinion Saturn sucks and the Redline is a$$ ugly. Plastic panels, center speedo... ugh!! Oh well, the Cobalt will at least be the volume seller so maybe GM will allow Chevy to throw in goodies like an LSD, higher power, 6-speed etc. after a couple of years.

actually mitsu already filed now we just wait and see if they stay alive after this

actually mitsu already filed now we just wait and see if they stay alive after this

You're right, time to stock up on Lancers.

But getting back to GM. I could have really seen more power in the Redline and the Cobalt SS. When i heard of S/C Eco engine i thought of the cavalier tunner that was stolen. I forgot the name but it was that orange coupe. That thing was so awsome. But i saw the numbers those cars were putting out, 263 SC Sedan was the nicest one they had in number of power gains. I was looking foward to something like that. Then i hear all it is is a 205hp, 5 speed ion with a small body kit and a goofie looking wing. Im sure the cobalt will look bigger but we will have to wait and see how they perform when they come out.

Im sure the cobalt will look bigger but we will have to wait and see how they perform when they come out.

That's why I like it here, rather than the .org. Some people there actually seem like they are trying to discourage everyone from buying a GM product... when the product hasn't even hit the ground.

Lunchbox wrote:
Im sure the cobalt will look bigger


what do u mean look bigger, it was not that big, like a cavy - half a foot

and it was Michigan international Speedway June 18th 2004 or 20th dont remember (Cobalt SS s/c Rally yellow spotted) {posted in wrong reply is all}

whoa paladine where you been

what was that, i dont understand that last one red cavy, also paladine? is that like an insult >?

i ment where have you been havent seen you much

nice call

wth is going on? Why cant I view the first 8 posts???

wth is going on? Why cant I view the first 8 posts???

Because they're older than dirt?

Because they're older than dirt?


O.... Thats weird...

O.... Thats weird...

I actually have no clue, but this has to be the oldest thread I've ever seen.

Nice revival dumbass.

wtf? 4 year old post.,,,

Wow, I think this is the oldest one !

lolzorz. I saw it on the main page. Someone revived it lolz.

man this thread is old

nice call

Dumbass.

http://carsmedia.ign.com/cars/image/article/784/784938/buick-riviera-coupe-concept-20070501052735791.jpg
nothing more to see here

Quoting first post. NOTHING! hahahah

nice call

your a fucking epic fail.
why the hell would you bump this.

GO DIE! :lol:

your a fucking epic fail.
why the hell would you bump this.

GO DIE! :lol:

cause he believes in change
"Yes we can"
....bring back old threads

cause he believes in change
"Yes we can"
....bring back old threads

would like a cookie?

would like a cookie?

not so much.....maybe.....not so much....if it is macadamia nut then I will have half.

Zombie Thread!!!!!!!! Run.....dear God Run!!