View Full Version : 1/4 Mile Times for 2.2L yet? ***EDIT*** I found some #'s!(See my last post)
Phatnucca 02-26-2005, 11:28 PM Have not seen any posted anywhere just yet except for the SS Version. I test drove my 05 Cobalt Sedan today in the 5-Speed. They only had 3 5-Speeds on the whole lot out of about 50 Cobalts :lol: . It felt like it had alot of balls for what it is... at least in the 5-Speed. I didn't drive the auto so I don't know about that. My guess is that the 5-Speed is a tad bit faster than the Auto though. I mean, I used to have a 1994 Ford Probe SE which had a 2.0L DOHC 16V motor but it only put out about 118Hp and about 98WHP. I put ALOT of money and parts into it and could only run a 15.7 @ 86.5Mph when it was finished. It was still all motor though but had ALL the bolt-on's and a set of custom Crower Cams.
Lets put it this way... the stock Sedan 2.2L Cobalt in the 5-Speed felt faster than that car... and the Probe went a 15.7 :) .
All I want to do to the Cobalt is just a Cold Air Intake for now....I heard the 2.2 Ecotech's like an aftermarket intake :) .
Any thoughts?
-Joe
rm25x 02-26-2005, 11:43 PM Not sure what quarter mile times are yet, but I know mine feels pretty quick. :D
Phatnucca 02-26-2005, 11:56 PM Right on man! Do you have any mods to yours yet? I heard that AEM has an intake out for it but I'm not sure. I'm guessing that the header from RKSport will work on the Cobalt 2.2 and also the CAI?
Thanks for the reply
-Joe
Phatnucca 02-27-2005, 01:08 AM Ok.. I have found a 1/4 Mile time and Mph for the 2.2L Ecotec cobalts.
It is as follows:
0-60Mph= 8.17s
1/4 Mile time= 16.37s
1/4 Mile Speed= 87.60mph
I don't know about the rest of you.... But those #'s seem a bit off. I mean, look at the Trap Speed... 87.60. That should be good for a Mid 15 second pass. Also.... that 0-60 Time is worse than my 94 Probe 2.0 5-Speed was stock but the Cobalts 1/4 mile time is better by .5 second and the Trap Speed doesn't match the 1/4 Mile ET. Only thing I can think of is that those are the #'s for the Automatic version and the 5-Speed is a tad quicker.... maybe a 15.9-16.0? Maybe the test driver had a bad 60 Foot... :lol: :lol:
Any thoughts.....
-Joe
HotSauce 02-27-2005, 01:19 AM 16.37s.. :( ....Im happy I went with the SS/SC :D , 16's is just way too slow for me
CoolCobalt_NY 02-27-2005, 03:47 AM I think with the CAI and/or Exhust Or just the CAI.. It might help it out...
Again, dont forget.. It's not AN SS/SC So for it's class it's not that bad!!!!
Eddie 02-27-2005, 04:17 PM on the cavaliers 2.5" catback on the ecotec showed a damn good gain. intake from what i heard didnt do much unless its matched with a larger t/b.
rm25x 02-27-2005, 08:34 PM are those numbers with the 5 speed or a auto?
And no, mines stock.
Phatnucca 02-27-2005, 09:11 PM Yeah... that is what I was wondering as well. It didn't say... but I'm assuming it's for that auto. Because I thought the Cav's with the 2.2L Ecotec went faster than a 16.3??
-Joe
MikeSS 02-28-2005, 09:31 AM Yeah... that is what I was wondering as well. It didn't say... but I'm assuming it's for that auto. Because I thought the Cav's with the 2.2L Ecotec went faster than a 16.3??
-Joe
A Coblat will be way faster then that. I did 15.21 in my ecotec alero with just a CAI and catback, the engine loves getting free breathing. Hell, a guy in my car club did a 15.77 in a 4dr Rented automatic Chevy Cavalier last year.
rm25x 02-28-2005, 11:16 AM I have a GTech pro I can use, but I don't think I could pull good numbers in the snow lol. This spring though going to see what I can get the car to do, handling, braking, and for go power. :D
dnbguy86 03-20-2005, 12:57 PM A Coblat will be way faster then that. I did 15.21 in my ecotec alero with just a CAI and catback, the engine loves getting free breathing. Hell, a guy in my car club did a 15.77 in a 4dr Rented automatic Chevy Cavalier last year.
Ecotec alero's have the 2.4 quad four motor which puts out more power than the 2.2L ecotec, but regardless, power between the 2 motors is not substanial enough to make more than a second difference in the 1/4.
avro206 03-20-2005, 06:06 PM Ecotec alero's have the 2.4 quad four motor which puts out more power than the 2.2L ecotec, but regardless, power between the 2 motors is not substanial enough to make more than a second difference in the 1/4.
Wrong. Aleros--the last two years I think, have the 2.2L Eco-tec. The previous years, as w with the Z24, had the 2.4L TWIN CAM engine---which is not an eco-tec. There is only a tiny power difference between the 2.
Quad 4 monker has not been officailly used since 95
avro206 03-20-2005, 06:10 PM Ok.. I have found a 1/4 Mile time and Mph for the 2.2L Ecotec cobalts.
It is as follows:
0-60Mph= 8.17s
1/4 Mile time= 16.37s
1/4 Mile Speed= 87.60mph
I don't know about the rest of you.... But those #'s seem a bit off. I mean, look at the Trap Speed... 87.60. That should be good for a Mid 15 second pass. Also.... that 0-60 Time is worse than my 94 Probe 2.0 5-Speed was stock but the Cobalts 1/4 mile time is better by .5 second and the Trap Speed doesn't match the 1/4 Mile ET. Only thing I can think of is that those are the #'s for the Automatic version and the 5-Speed is a tad quicker.... maybe a 15.9-16.0? Maybe the test driver had a bad 60 Foot... :lol: :lol:
Any thoughts.....
-Joe
sure....wehre did you get your numbers for the Cobalt?
And how did you get numbers for your old Probe? Theres no way a sotck 118hp 4cyl in apRobe could hit an 8 sec time 0-60. I wouldn't compare magazine data to g-tec.
MikeSS 03-21-2005, 11:37 AM Ecotec alero's have the 2.4 quad four motor which puts out more power than the 2.2L ecotec, but regardless, power between the 2 motors is not substanial enough to make more than a second difference in the 1/4.
It was the 2.2L ecotec as stated before, and it made 10HP less then the 2.4L that used to be in the older Aleros. It was still far faster then the 2.4L "Quad4" (dead name) motor do to lighterweight, better parts, freer revving, and better transmission.
Look at the 1/4 mile times between old Sunfire's, cavaliers, grand ams, aleros with the 2.4L versus's the 2.2L engine, the ecotec is almost always faster.
So yeah, my engine and the cobalts eninge is the exact same, and with 2 minor mods I pulled a 15.21, so what I was saying is that a stock Cobalt will go way faster then the quoted 16.3 1/4 mile time quoted.
But thanks for not reading my post and putting up false info. Thats why I stated a stock 4dr automatic cavalier with the ecotec ran 15.77 in the 1/4 mile, which means a 5-speed coupe will be at least that fast in similar conditions.
dj4monie 05-15-2005, 10:45 PM It was the 2.2L ecotec as stated before, and it made 10HP less then the 2.4L that used to be in the older Aleros. It was still far faster then the 2.4L "Quad4" (dead name) motor do to lighterweight, better parts, freer revving, and better transmission.
Look at the 1/4 mile times between old Sunfire's, cavaliers, grand ams, aleros with the 2.4L versus's the 2.2L engine, the ecotec is almost always faster.
So yeah, my engine and the cobalts eninge is the exact same, and with 2 minor mods I pulled a 15.21, so what I was saying is that a stock Cobalt will go way faster then the quoted 16.3 1/4 mile time quoted.
But thanks for not reading my post and putting up false info. Thats why I stated a stock 4dr automatic cavalier with the ecotec ran 15.77 in the 1/4 mile, which means a 5-speed coupe will be at least that fast in similar conditions.
The stock 2.2L is WAY faster than 16.3, test editors only get to spend a few hours or maybe a day or two with a fully loaded pre-production or actual production car.
On its trap speed alone the car is good for low 15's with a decent driver.
Drag Radials for sure would put it down to mid 15 second zone. A base model with limited options should be a few tenths and maybe a 1 mph faster. The Cobalt isn't a lightweight either, but its still decent.
The stock 2.2L is WAY faster than 16.3, test editors only get to spend a few hours or maybe a day or two with a fully loaded pre-production or actual production car.
On its trap speed alone the car is good for low 15's with a decent driver.
Drag Radials for sure would put it down to mid 15 second zone. A base model with limited options should be a few tenths and maybe a 1 mph faster. The Cobalt isn't a lightweight either, but its still decent.
a base model is less than 100 lbs lighter than fully loaded, thats less than .1 in time difference
ill take mine to the track soon, but i still gotta figure out how to launch this bitch
wikkymaster 05-17-2005, 10:37 AM if it didnt cost so much to run at my local dragstrip i would run my car, but 40 bucks is a lot of money to run like 3 times
if it didnt cost so much to run at my local dragstrip i would run my car, but 40 bucks is a lot of money to run like 3 times
wow, its $10 to watch, or $12 to race at the strip by me
dj4monie 05-19-2005, 12:27 AM wow, its $10 to watch, or $12 to race at the strip by me
Save yourself some pain and get some drag radials. Will make launching it MUCH easier.
Save yourself some pain and get some drag radials. Will make launching it MUCH easier.
eh, i got pirelli's stock, a decent tire, but no sense on buying drag radials for a car im not modding
i went to the track tonight, i ran with full interior and a ~100lb system
my best run was 16.6 at 88 mph with a 2.6 60'
its hard as shit to get a low 60', my best one was 2.6, i gotta lower the tire pressure next time
tx05cobalt 05-21-2005, 12:01 PM once you get those 60 foots down the time will drop a ton... should be able to pull 2.2's 2.3's once you get it down. I know with my 01 Z24 I was able to put down like 2.21's all day long once I learned how to launch it.
Chevy4Life85 05-21-2005, 12:59 PM Tiny where do you run your car??? I never knew there was anywhere even near here to do that I live in western CT.
there is a track near me (western NY) www.nyirp.com
if i lowered my tire pressure, i bet i could pull some 2.2's
brianfcp 05-28-2005, 06:43 AM the cobalt ran a 16.6 basing from what I read in the magazine. Thats with the 2.2L, assuming its 5spd, and assuming the driver is pretty much a professional driver if its to be placed in a magazine.
Now, with inexperienced dragsters, I have a feeling a STOCK cobalt 2.2L will get times like 16.9 or such from normal driver going to the track.
My 75hp '83 honda accord hatch ran 17.85@75mph, and it felt way faster than my cobalt. I dunno, I hope that if I do bring my coupe to the track, I get a better time than 16.6, cause 16.6 isnt very fast at all...
saturnd00d 05-30-2005, 04:25 PM With only an AEM CAI on my ION, my best was a 16.4. I now have a lightweight crank pulley, tapered TB, short shifter, and some other small stuff, but my biggest enemy was wheel hop that day. I will soon have a torque brace installed, which will eliminate most (if not all) wheel hop. I am sure I can break 16 now once I have no wheelhop. I'll post pics when i do go to the track this spring/summer.
brianfcp 06-01-2005, 11:49 AM 1/4 sucks cause the cobalt has bad low end power.
the cobalt ran a 16.6 basing from what I read in the magazine. Thats with the 2.2L, assuming its 5spd, and assuming the driver is pretty much a professional driver if its to be placed in a magazine.
Now, with inexperienced dragsters, I have a feeling a STOCK cobalt 2.2L will get times like 16.9 or such from normal driver going to the track.
My 75hp '83 honda accord hatch ran 17.85@75mph, and it felt way faster than my cobalt. I dunno, I hope that if I do bring my coupe to the track, I get a better time than 16.6, cause 16.6 isnt very fast at all...
i got a 16.6, and it was after only about 1000 miles driving stick, and that includes a 150lb system, so, actually i coulda got a 16.5
saturnd00d 06-07-2005, 02:49 AM tiny, you'd never know unless you ran the car without the system. Just say no to guessing games.
tiny, you'd never know unless you ran the car without the system. Just say no to guessing games.
right, well every 100lbs knocks off a tenth, but your right, its not true until its on the slip
but lowering my tire pressure would be much more beneficial
CobaltBurst 10-06-2005, 09:38 AM 2.2L Cobalt LS 15.6
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-Cobalt-Timeslip-6162.html
Cobalt30 10-06-2005, 11:37 AM that makes me feel much better cobaltburst. i thought i had a slow car there for a second lol :cssNET:
ryan
celicacobalt 10-06-2005, 11:39 AM my friends cobalt ls automatic did a 17.1 on a 94 degree day needing an oil change
CobaltBurst 10-06-2005, 12:07 PM i didnt run that, maybe ill go this friday to see what i can hit...... nevermind its raining inFL stupid tropical storm, but 15.6 is faster than my z24 this feels faster in someways.
RedBaseBolt 10-07-2005, 02:38 PM My stock Auto base model ran a 16.5 at 83MPH. I am sure if I had a 5 speed tranny I could shave almost a second off that time. My Alero with the Quad 4 2.4L and 5 speed manual ran 15.7 at 90MPH fully stock. A LOT depends on track conditions and driver.
IonNinja 10-07-2005, 07:14 PM the fastest I've ever seen pulled stock on a 2.2L Ion/Cobalt was about 16.3. I don't really believe that 15.6 at all, a stock Ion/Cobalt would never be able to pull that. I didn't see a time slip in that link either...
saturnd00d 10-07-2005, 08:33 PM I agree, there's no way you got 15.6 stock, not even modded with the usual bolt-ons. Cobats weigh the same as IONs, and have the same engine, tranny and restrictions. How does that work out that you got a full second over another cobalt owner, and almost a second over me? I can see some environmental conditions taken into play like sea level, weight of driver, tire pressure, etc., but it won't make for a second difference, not unless the other drivers all suck compared to you (highly unlikely).
skydragon26 10-08-2005, 06:55 PM its all about weight... how much fuel was in the car can be a facter... also it seems the more miles this cars have the faster they become
saturnd00d 10-08-2005, 07:12 PM I lowered my tire pressure to 20psi, and by the time I got to the track, I was at 1/4 tank of gas. I know all about variables at the track. I did all I could to reduce my weight without taking out things from the car that I would be driving with on the road (ie spare tire, seats, carpet, etc.). I wanted true times that would reflect what I could run on the streets as well.
jonnie256 10-11-2005, 12:56 AM I don't like alero's period,we had one at one time and it was junk.
RedBaseBolt 10-17-2005, 03:48 PM I don't like alero's period,we had one at one time and it was junk.
Don't be bashin' my fav car now. Aleros are good cars. Well built and solid when they hit things.... :rolleyes:
MikeSS 10-17-2005, 05:52 PM I ran a members 2.2L 5-speed LS at the track on saturday night. I pulled a 16.1 and that my first time ever driving the car with no weight taken out (ie spare tire jack etc) no tire pressure adjustment, and with over 3/5 a tank of gas. I also broke the plastic off the shift knob going into 3rd gear, thus messing up my shift.
A Cobalt LS can EASILY get in the 15's with an experienced driver.
MikeSS 10-17-2005, 05:55 PM I agree, there's no way you got 15.6 stock, not even modded with the usual bolt-ons. Cobats weigh the same as IONs, and have the same engine, tranny and restrictions. How does that work out that you got a full second over another cobalt owner, and almost a second over me? I can see some environmental conditions taken into play like sea level, weight of driver, tire pressure, etc., but it won't make for a second difference, not unless the other drivers all suck compared to you (highly unlikely).
Ummm, explain to me how my alero (heavier car) with a 2.2L ecotec made a 15.21 second run and would run 15.4's all day with with just a catback exhaust, CAI intake, and lowering springs? ok, it was a factory freak from the start, but...
snakeboy7167 10-17-2005, 08:41 PM I have a cobalt sedan with minimal mods (air intake and muffler) and a five speed and I am running consistent 15.9's at 86 mph. I do have quite a bit of wheel spin, however I also have the stock radial tires; drag radials would definately be a huge advantage.
Kingofdacity 10-18-2005, 07:15 PM i have a 2005 Cobalt LS 2 door automatic. and i ran 1/4 mile in 16.6 at 82mph. i only have a weapon R muffler on it.
ecoteched 10-20-2005, 07:11 PM I have an auto. look down for 1/4 time and speed. I guess an auto is slower...
PackAttack85 10-20-2005, 09:58 PM i ran 15.688@92.97mph and thats about four runs down the track.that was the fastest run. :cssNET: :) :usa:
wikkymaster 10-20-2005, 10:00 PM details on your car please?
Loaded87IROC 10-22-2005, 01:25 PM I ran a 16.2 @ 85 with a 2.3 60' My car is an 05 Cobalt LS Coupe with a 5 speed, only mod is homemade cold air intake. I can scan a timeslip if needed, but since its a record breaking run, im not gonna bother right now.
dnl0407 10-24-2005, 07:45 PM hey tiny on the other page u said u have pirellies stock but u only have an ls? if somehow u got those tires on the stock 16's u might wanna check those are not pirellies
MikeSS 10-24-2005, 08:35 PM hey tiny on the other page u said u have pirellies stock but u only have an ls? if somehow u got those tires on the stock 16's u might wanna check those are not pirellies
Ummm, yes they are. 16 inch wheels come with pirelli P6 tires, just like the 17 inch SS 2.4
Permafried- 10-24-2005, 10:09 PM Ummm, yes they are. 16 inch wheels come with pirelli P6 tires, just like the 17 inch SS 2.4
I think it depends on when you got the vehicle because mine aren't Pirellis they're Michelin MXV4 Plus. I was a little surprised when I found that out that my 16" upgrade didn't come with Pirellis but I don't seem to be the only one so I'm assuming it came like that from the factory :).
Permafried-
06LSCobalt 10-24-2005, 10:54 PM Dealerships have thier own things. This dealership im goin to try to get my ls from has a packages called GTXSport. In which they put a GTXSport badge on the door and it has Bodykit/17's/Tint and i think thats all. But for all that it is only 3 thousand more.... IF u ask me thats one hell of a deal. They had a arrival blue one there that was automatic with all those addons and it was only 15k.
redd214 10-25-2005, 12:47 AM jbody guys wit turbo ecos are well into the 12's and one is in the mid 11's. u boys need some boost lol.
dnl0407 10-25-2005, 12:15 PM well that sux i got the michelins didnt know that some came w pirellis
MikeSS 10-25-2005, 05:14 PM I think it depends on when you got the vehicle because mine aren't Pirellis they're Michelin MXV4 Plus. I was a little surprised when I found that out that my 16" upgrade didn't come with Pirellis but I don't seem to be the only one so I'm assuming it came like that from the factory :).
Permafried-
Yeah, the Pontiac Pursuit Sedan (not the GT) came with the Pirelli's on the 16 inch rims when you got it fully loaded. We had one at work until some ya-hoo wrote it off. :(
wikkymaster 10-25-2005, 05:28 PM Dealerships have thier own things. This dealership im goin to try to get my ls from has a packages called GTXSport. In which they put a GTXSport badge on the door and it has Bodykit/17's/Tint and i think thats all. But for all that it is only 3 thousand more.... IF u ask me thats one hell of a deal. They had a arrival blue one there that was automatic with all those addons and it was only 15k.
razzi bodykit most likely = gross
17's = 700 bux
badges= fake name altogether
tint= 200 bux from a good shop
its a waste of money if you ask me, just my opinion
co-yellow-balt 10-25-2005, 06:49 PM well that sux i got the michelins didnt know that some came w pirellis
if you get the added sports package like myself. you get the pirelli's, other than that u get michelans or continental. 1SB sports package added alot of things, such as fogs, exhaust tip, leather steering wheel, white faced guages, spoiler, and even color matched mirrors
Permafried- 10-25-2005, 06:58 PM if you get the added sports package like myself. you get the pirelli's, other than that u get michelans or continental. 1SB sports package added alot of things, such as fogs, exhaust tip, leather steering wheel, white faced guages, spoiler, and even color matched mirrors
I did order the sport appearance and rim/tire upgrade...my '05 LS has everything but OnStar and side-curtain :). Again, I swear it depends on the build date of your car and more than likely what they had in stock at the time. I guarantee you my 16" rims are not the 15" that comes stock on the LS w/o the rim/tire upgrade.
Permafried-
dnl0407 10-25-2005, 08:17 PM i got everything but onstar and satellite radio and still didnt get the pirellies must have been the build date
mtwal16 10-25-2005, 08:21 PM on my vr6 i ran a 15.9 at 88 mph...or something around there
PackAttack85 10-25-2005, 09:15 PM details on your car please?
my car is stock. i've been drag racing and road racing since the age of 16. I'm 21 now. all i did was lower the air pressure to 12psi. :cssNET:
hey tiny on the other page u said u have pirellies stock but u only have an ls? if somehow u got those tires on the stock 16's u might wanna check those are not pirellies
i think i would know what tires i have :lol:
i have pirelli's on mine, they came with the sport package
sport models can come with michelin's i think, but its a regional thing im pretty sure
all i know, is i love my pirellis
my car is stock. i've been drag racing and road racing since the age of 16. I'm 21 now. all i did was lower the air pressure to 12psi. :cssNET:
damn, 12 psi?
thats fuckin low
what did you put the rears as?
nomoreavril 11-02-2005, 04:49 AM i raced a vr6 jetta once, at the end his nose was at about the end of my door. i have an 05 base coupe. other cars i've beaten...somehow....older(like 98 or so) mustang, countless honda civics, countless trucks, mitsu lancer es, honda passport lol,1996 or so eclipse gs(kicked its ass). i know there are more but i cant remember right now, oh and tonight, a honda del sol haha, it had a loud muffler on it thats all i know.
i know this is semi off topic, but what would increase your times on an auto? starting off in low or 1st gear whatever and doing the auto shift into the second then into drive or just start in drive and leave it alone?
xonic 11-03-2005, 08:27 PM just start in drive...putting it in L wont do anything b/c at a stop it's going to be in first anyway...you could also try to 'brake torque' or w/e people want to call it.. press fully on the brake and apply a bit of gas to get the revs up (around 2-2.5k and then let off the brake as you go WOT.
Savorybacon 11-03-2005, 09:03 PM Ok my best run: 1/4 ET: 16.3231 @ 83.94 mph in an auto (mods are listed below), my reaction time was ok @ .895 i suppose. Overall it's what I had expected. First run sucked, I think my nerves got to me running a 10 sec. 1st Gen Camaro, also my first time at the track.
PackAttack85 11-03-2005, 09:17 PM damn, 12 psi?
thats fuckin low
what did you put the rears as?
i set the rears at 30psi
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