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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Somebody Claims their Cobalt SS went 12.98@109

They posted over at the Red Line forurms. No slip yet, but if they come through with the slip mark one up for the Intense Kit, with a lil help from the giggle juice.

Originally Posted by DarricksZ28
He's got the slip, I told him to join and post it up. The mods are Intense Stage kit, meth kit, N.O.S, BFG drag radials, K&N, header back exhaust. He just called me and told me what he ran last night. 13.12@109 on his second pass. WOHOOT!


This link should take you to the thread
http://tinyurl.com/he5vd
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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What shot was he running? Dry or wet?

N/M found out. hmm is that even possible to run those times with 65 extra HP on top of the intense kit and bolt ons??
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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no ****.... can't wait for the slip on that one!
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sneaky
What shot was he running? Dry or wet?
Information is in the thread, click the link.

Originally Posted by DarricksZ28
Yea I know. Nobody believes anything here. But some of the guys here know when he went low 14s, then ran the 13.67 a while back. He's supposed to join, if not I'll have him email me the scanned slip and I'll post it for the non-believers. Oh, the shot is a .038 jet. Dry shot, it's about 65 worth of juice. The juice came on second gear because the stock clutch is crap. He's ordering a clutch, I guess next week. I was predicting 13.20s, but he blew that prediction out of the water.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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i saw this earlier but didnt wanna start nothing till I saw slips. Would be awesome if its true.
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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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I've gotta bunch of nitrous equip i was interested in using on my ss/sc but after talking to Mav at JBP he told me about the teflon coating that can get damaged with the N2O. This makes total sense because i used spray on my Thunderbird SC and it DID strip some of the teflon off my thottle body and my idle jumped 300(!) rpm...

12.98? i'm drooling...thats awesome.
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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thats some funny sh*t
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Whats up with the Methonal kit? What kind of gains doesit provide?
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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i want to see the slip b4 i belive!
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Old Mar 13, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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i want a slip just like everyone else. and Methanol is something like N20, and H20 injection, just another way to make a few ponies
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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maybe with a 4.6 in it
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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BS.... 5 pages of posts and no slip.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Put name here
I've gotta bunch of nitrous equip i was interested in using on my ss/sc but after talking to Mav at JBP he told me about the teflon coating that can get damaged with the N2O. This makes total sense because i used spray on my Thunderbird SC and it DID strip some of the teflon off my thottle body and my idle jumped 300(!) rpm...

12.98? i'm drooling...thats awesome.
Thats scary!!!!!!!! I thought they knew our engines since they are making parts for them????

The supercharger rotors are NOT teflon coated. They have whats called an abraidable coating. It will hold up fine with nitrous or water injection! Been proven on my Impala that i put 20K miles on it while using water injection, NO issues.

Now the older blowers are teflon coated and it will strip off!
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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it's still BS
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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That somebody would be me and the car isn't mine I just set it up. The "claim" is true and proof is coming. We're not really big on these forums because we're too busy working/racing plus I run a street racing forum for Central Florida.

Anyway I came here to see if anyone had bested our time or if someone had decided to spray on top of a 2.8 pulley when I stumbled across this thread. We're having some extended runtime issues with the spray and 2.8 pulley. But to answer any questions, the car is on a BFG drag radial and has pretty much every available bolt on part that provides a net hp increase. No header installed yet because I'm installing a WBO2 in the aftermarket header and I ran into trouble with the 5V analog input on the old EFILive cable we're using so the header isn't in the car yet.

Methanol injection allows more timing to be ran with the smaller pulley. It also adds octane and richens the mixture depending on the mix ratio. Basically full timing is allowable without any detonation.

Nitrous does wear the teflon off the rotors, but the Eaton won't be there much longer anyway.

Any other questions?
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 10:39 AM
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When are you going to prove it?
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by R33P3R007
When are you going to prove it?
Come to FL with $200+ and we'll line em up. We'll prove it then.

No seriously, what's the deal? With the mods you don't think it's possible? Or you think it's possible and the car just doesn't have them?
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DarricksZ28
Come to FL with $200+ and we'll line em up. We'll prove it then.

No seriously, what's the deal? With the mods you don't think it's possible? Or you think it's possible and the car just doesn't have them?

cool, i'll trailer down the Cobra and we can race..

Anyway

I personally don't think it is possible for all those mods to work efficiantly... YET. Nobody has had any real access to tuning for the LSJ. and until we do, i just don't see Intense Stage kit, meth kit, N.O.S, BFG drag radials, K&N making a 12.98 at 109.

Lets see some pictures. Personally I would like to see how the Meth kit and N02 are setup.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Trailered Cobra, huh? Bring a trailered car to run our lil ol 4cyl street car? Bring a trailered car to the spot and you'll get raped on the road in Central Florida, just for future reference. You're full of **** anyway.

Nobody said it was plug and play. I sweated over that damn thing for many weeks working out the bugs with the meth kit/NOS/ 3.25 pulley. The BFGs were worth .5 right off the bat. Car went 14.72@97mph completely stock. 3.25 pulley/meth and nitrous 14.10@101mph. Added the BFGs, adjusted mix ratio and jet size on the meth, and K&N the car went 13.68@104mph. Added the Intense Stage kit, 100% mix, colder plug and adjusted the gap and it netted a 12.98@109mph.

The full strength mix is causing problems on the juice once the car has been driven for a week or two. It's not perfect. Now that I have the MAFT to play with and once the Wideband is in place I won't be doing things the ole fashioned way and using the meth to adjust the fuel mixture. It works, but it's not a kit and definitely isn't plug and play. So pretty much, if you have no idea about reading plugs, adjusting a/f ratios when using methanol then stay away.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DarricksZ28
Trailered Cobra, huh? Bring a trailered car to run our lil ol 4cyl street car? Bring a trailered car to the spot and you'll get raped on the road in Central Florida, just for future reference. You're full of **** anyway.

Nobody said it was plug and play. I sweated over that damn thing for many weeks working out the bugs with the meth kit/NOS/ 3.25 pulley. The BFGs were worth .5 right off the bat. Car went 14.72@97mph completely stock. 3.25 pulley/meth and nitrous 14.10@101mph. Added the BFGs, adjusted mix ratio and jet size on the meth, and K&N the car went 13.68@104mph. Added the Intense Stage kit, 100% mix, colder plug and adjusted the gap and it netted a 12.98@109mph.

The full strength mix is causing problems on the juice once the car has been driven for a week or two. It's not perfect. Now that I have the MAFT to play with and once the Wideband is in place I won't be doing things the ole fashioned way and using the meth to adjust the fuel mixture. It works, but it's not a kit and definitely isn't plug and play. So pretty much, if you have no idea about reading plugs, adjusting a/f ratios when using methanol then stay away.
Time slip?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 02:51 AM
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bwahahaha had to have nitrous to break 12's if it even happened
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jaydizzle82
bwahahaha had to have nitrous to break 12's if it even happened
What are you all going to do when I put up the slip? Right now you're all doubting the run, don't think the setup will net those numbers, but do any of you who are posting have any clue what it takes to get a car/combo into a given performance level? At the track it doesn't matter what it takes to get a time unless you're class racing. We ain't class racing. So a 12 sec slip=a 12 sec slip whether it's on nitromethane and nitrous or pump 87. I'm keeping track of the haters/doubters so when I do decide to post the slip I'll know who to blow off when the questions start rolling in.
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FAST06SS
Thats scary!!!!!!!! I thought they knew our engines since they are making parts for them????

The supercharger rotors are NOT teflon coated. They have whats called an abraidable coating. It will hold up fine with nitrous or water injection! Been proven on my Impala that i put 20K miles on it while using water injection, NO issues.

Now the older blowers are teflon coated and it will strip off!
So, your saying we can run Meth/alky through the S/C and be ok?
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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just post the slips man
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mycavisux97
just post the slips man


If you ran 12s, congrats and post up the slip so everyone can suck your E-nuts. You're right, a time is a time regardless of how you got there, but if you used NOS, heres my take on it.

You can throw an XXX shot of NOS on anything and make it run faster. This is more true with Nitrous than it is with Forced Induction or any other mod. If I wanted to run 12s cheap and easy I wouldve thrown a 125 shot on my car and left it at that. Fact is you have a limited supply until you refill the bottle, whereas with FI its always there. Thats why I dont like it.
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