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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Garrett GT Turbo with STG. 1 Cams

Has anyone tried to turbo a 05-06 cobalt 2.2L using the Garrett GT Tuner kit + Comp Cams STG. 1 Grind Cams?
I'm hearing that the stock cams would be better for FI than stage 1 cams.
I've got all the bolt-ons at this point and it's just not fast enough so I'm going to be looking into going turbo in about 7 months just before summer.
I would only run 7 lbs. of boost and using the stock SS/SC injectors
Vince at Trifecta Performance would have to come up with a tune to make it all work and still be able to drive it to work 6 days a week.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by pacific cobalt
Has anyone tried to turbo a 05-06 cobalt 2.2L using the Garrett GT Tuner kit + Comp Cams STG. 1 Grind Cams?
I'm hearing that the stock cams would be better for FI than stage 1 cams.
I've got all the bolt-ons at this point and it's just not fast enough so I'm going to be looking into going turbo in about 7 months just before summer.
I would only run 7 lbs. of boost and using the stock SS/SC injectors
Vince at Trifecta Performance would have to come up with a tune to make it all work and still be able to drive it to work 6 days a week.

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Shouldn't have bought a 2.2L then.

I don't think anybody here has aftermarket cams with a turbo. I don't see why it would be any worse thne suing the stock cams. Do you plan on doing anything else besides cams and turbo?
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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I dont think youll have any problems at all with STGI's and 7psi.

I am pretty sure TTR has been quoted as saying they work nice togethher.

Is it worth it? Of course it is if its what you wanna do.

Ive been seriously thinking about putting on a GT2860 and going and beating up on a lot of the LSJ guys.


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Shouldn't have bought a 2.2L then.
Why? Why shouldnt he have bought an LS? People need to stop talking **** about the 2.2/2.4 cars, not everyone wants a 2.0, not everyone can afford a 2.0(whether it be price or insurance) And if it werent for the 2.2 cars there wouldnt be any 2.0s...... All you factory blown guys who like to talk **** about the NA guys need to get off your high horse and STFU because in the end, you know what??? You still drive a 4 cylinder compact car and there are plenty of GM V8 guys laughing just as hard at you as you are at us. Not to mention the fact that a large percentage of the blown 2.2s will walk away from LSJ cars.(and they have less money invested too. )
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 12:39 PM
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"should've bought an LNF" would be the more appropriate response...give praise to the current king of Ecotecs

doesn't Comp sell Turbo grind cams? why not just sell the stage 1's and pick those up
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by IonNinja
"should've bought an LNF"

Dont tell anyone, but Ive heard rumors of a 350hp LNX. Also just on another side note, the parts catalog doesnt list any SS/TC LNF specific parts as being applicable to the 2010 model year.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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They need to stop making so many cars fast from the factory. Damn.

350 hp? What is that the next truck engine or something, holy hell.

And btw, I could have sworn the cobalt was being ousted for the cruze?

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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350hp LNX? sounds like a beast-ass turbo cobalt.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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comp cams makes a turbo grind.. go with them.. vince is good .. but if you have parts that aren't working well together he can only do so much
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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if your gonna get boosted on cams with the turbo grind. the stage 1 has a little too much overlap as far as FI is concerned.
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Originally Posted by Spanky's Monkey
if your gonna get boosted on cams with the turbo grind. the stage 1 has a little too much overlap as far as FI is concerned.
as far as turbo FI, that is...
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Why? Why shouldnt he have bought an LS? People need to stop talking **** about the 2.2/2.4 cars, not everyone wants a 2.0, not everyone can afford a 2.0(whether it be price or insurance) And if it werent for the 2.2 cars there wouldnt be any 2.0s...... All you factory blown guys who like to talk **** about the NA guys need to get off your high horse and STFU because in the end, you know what??? You still drive a 4 cylinder compact car and there are plenty of GM V8 guys laughing just as hard at you as you are at us. Not to mention the fact that a large percentage of the blown 2.2s will walk away from LSJ cars.(and they have less money invested too. )
I drive a 2.4SS in case you couldn't tell due to your lack of knowledge/vision.
Also, I never expected my car to be fast, hence why I bought it. Im saying buying a 2.2 and planning on making it "fast" is a bad idea to begin with. Also it is much easier to make a 2.4 'fast' then it is a 2.2 due to the engine internals and such.
I think your just pissed cause you bought a baseline econobox.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
I drive a 2.4SS in case you couldn't tell due to your lack of knowledge/vision.
Also, I never expected my car to be fast, hence why I bought it. Im saying buying a 2.2 and planning on making it "fast" is a bad idea to begin with. Also it is much easier to make a 2.4 'fast' then it is a 2.2 due to the engine internals and such.
I think your just pissed cause you bought a baseline econobox.
i suggest you heed his statement and STFU.. mkulrey "base econobox" hacks "base econobox" will both take a good chunk of the cars on the road.. niether of them have cracked open the motor.. and there are many others as well.. please don't spread your ignorance in this thread and catch an attitude..


like many of us have said .. comp makes turbo grinds yu'd be better off using them .. or just sell the stg ones and ge ta custom grind
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Hey...your right my 2.2 with 241whp 254wtq with only 17000 invested is crap :rolletes: So INDColtsFan18...get over yourself haha i can beat prob 75% of the people on this forum with my "Econobox". Why did i choose a 2.2L you say? insurance i pay 900$ a year and being 21 thats my budget. Also I like 4 doors Flying under the radar also helps. ok ok enough with the side bust..

TO THE OP: I have the kit, Well the alpha kit which came with a tune. Tune is very nice and as you can see by my mods and numbers ive put down..its very impressive. Im on stock motor as well with no signs of weakness.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
I drive a 2.4SS in case you couldn't tell due to your lack of knowledge/vision.
Also, I never expected my car to be fast, hence why I bought it. Im saying buying a 2.2 and planning on making it "fast" is a bad idea to begin with. Also it is much easier to make a 2.4 'fast' then it is a 2.2 due to the engine internals and such.
I think your just pissed cause you bought a baseline econobox.
im sorry, but how was he supposed to know u have a 2.4? it doesnt exactly say it in your sig, your username, or anywhere else...and idoubt he is gonna go hunting through your profile to find what engine you have.

btw...the 2.2 has a bigger aftermarket than the 2.4 does....so no, its not easier to make HP with the 2.4 The best thing the 2.4 has going for it that the 2.2 doesnt have is HPTuners
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Why? Why shouldnt he have bought an LS? People need to stop talking **** about the 2.2/2.4 cars, not everyone wants a 2.0, not everyone can afford a 2.0(whether it be price or insurance) And if it werent for the 2.2 cars there wouldnt be any 2.0s...... All you factory blown guys who like to talk **** about the NA guys need to get off your high horse and STFU because in the end, you know what??? You still drive a 4 cylinder compact car and there are plenty of GM V8 guys laughing just as hard at you as you are at us. Not to mention the fact that a large percentage of the blown 2.2s will walk away from LSJ cars.(and they have less money invested too. )
Quoted for the ******* truth. I know a guy who came to the last NC cobalt meet with a turbo'd 2.2 who was just shy of 300 hp.
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The best thing the 2.4 has going for it that the 2.2 doesnt have is HPTuners
We also have humblness unlike the 2.0 and 2.4 nutswingers.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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I've invested just as much as mkulrey13 has and i've got a fully forged motor. I should be right around 290whp and a **** ton of torque once i figure out this electrical problem....
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 07:56 PM
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^^ too bad thatll take over a year at this rate...lol

thats just my jealousy of your forged internals talking....
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Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
Also, I never expected my car to be fast, hence why I bought it. Im saying buying a 2.2 and planning on making it "fast" is a bad idea to begin with. Also it is much easier to make a 2.4 'fast' then it is a 2.2 due to the engine internals and such.

Why is it a bad idea to make a 2.2 fast? Because if I buy a base 2.2 car for $13,000 and invest $4,000 in it to make it "fast" I'd be faster than a large portion of the guys with $18,000-25,000 cars and theyd be embarassed that got whipped by an LS?

Or is it because a 300hp LS has cheaper insurance than a 205hp SS/SC?
Or is it because I would have a car I built and could be proud of?
Or is it because my car would be unique and different from the crowd?
Or is because youll look like a tool when you get destroyed by an LS with stock wheel covers?

Id love for you to explain to me how its easier to make a 2.4 faster? Especially seeing how the the difference between the quickest (NA) 2.4 and the quickest (NA)2.2 is only about 3/10ths......

What portion of the engine internals make the 2.4 easier to make fast?

Would it be the pistons made out of the same **** as 2.2 pistons?
How about the rods made out of the same **** as the 2.2?
OH WAIT, I know... its the fact that there are only about 1/10 as many camshaft choices for the 2.4 as the 2.2?

Originally Posted by INDColtsFan18
I think your just pissed cause you bought a baseline econobox.
First of all, I think it would be awesome if you could find anywhere on this site or any other related site I frequent that shows that I am pissed because I have an econobox.

I think its much more likely that your pissed that you dont know how to make your car faster, and since your clearly an @ss noone will help you, so you routinely get beat by both all the 2.0 cars and all the fast 2.2's......And you realized that you really failed because for probably $1500 more you coulda had an LSJ......Man thats gotta just suck for your ego.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:31 PM
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and the winner by KO, "Maven"
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Haha, I'm sure all the 2.2 self justification has been said here..
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/lounge-42/sss-do-you-look-down-2-2s-135486/
No need for this again, back on topic.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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Pacific Cobalt:

Put a turbo on that beast and enjoy!
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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LOL Damn, chew me up and spit me out. First of all, I haven't really invested in my car yet because I have better priorities right now. When I can afford it i Know exactly what im doing. Indeed I would have prefeered an LSJ, so what, im not complaining.

Also, I didn't just pay for a larger engine, everything about the SS is better then the LS, from the sound system to the suspension.

If your up for a race with your fast 2.2L, then I got my Subie here waiting for you.

Good Luck with the build!

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im sorry, but how was he supposed to know u have a 2.4? it doesnt exactly say it in your sig, your username, or anywhere else...and idoubt he is gonna go hunting through your profile to find what engine you have.
By glancing at my sig pictures? Notice the intake.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
I dont think youll have any problems at all with STGI's and 7psi.

I am pretty sure TTR has been quoted as saying they work nice togethher.

Is it worth it? Of course it is if its what you wanna do.

Ive been seriously thinking about putting on a GT2860 and going and beating up on a lot of the LSJ guys.
If Aaron at TTR said that they work well together then I will take his word for it and be the "Tester" for this project.


Originally Posted by mkulrey13
Hey...your right my 2.2 with 241whp 254wtq with only 17000 invested is crap :rolletes: So INDColtsFan18...get over yourself haha i can beat prob 75% of the people on this forum with my "Econobox". Why did i choose a 2.2L you say? insurance i pay 900$ a year and being 21 thats my budget. Also I like 4 doors Flying under the radar also helps. ok ok enough with the side bust..

TO THE OP: I have the kit, Well the alpha kit which came with a tune. Tune is very nice and as you can see by my mods and numbers ive put down..its very impressive. Im on stock motor as well with no signs of weakness.
Your video on You Tube is very impressive and it got me wanting the Garrett Turbo kit even more. Good work

Originally Posted by elecblue06
comp cams makes a turbo grind.. go with them.. vince is good .. but if you have parts that aren't working well together he can only do so much
Most here like you are saying to go with Turbo Grind and I agree that would be my #1 choice only I could never find anyone to buy a used set of STG.1 cams and the swap will cost me another $350 + The cost of a set of new turbo cams.
I might have to "just do it" with the STG. 1's and see how the car runs. Worst case scenario I'll pay another few hundred bucks for my stock 2.2 cams to be put back in. Oh and yeah Vince is good for sure but like you say if the STG.1 cams don't get along with the Turbo kit then there's nothing Vince can do about it.

Thanks for all the responses and keep it friendly. They are all Ecotec engines in the end whether it's 2.2, 2.4, 2.0 it's all in how you build it.

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Originally Posted by Maven
Why is it a bad idea to make a 2.2 fast? Because if I buy a base 2.2 car for $13,000 and invest $4,000 in it to make it "fast" I'd be faster than a large portion of the guys with $18,000-25,000 cars and theyd be embarassed that got whipped by an LS?

Or is it because a 300hp LS has cheaper insurance than a 205hp SS/SC?
Or is it because I would have a car I built and could be proud of?
Or is it because my car would be unique and different from the crowd?
Or is because youll look like a tool when you get destroyed by an LS with stock wheel covers?

Id love for you to explain to me how its easier to make a 2.4 faster? Especially seeing how the the difference between the quickest (NA) 2.4 and the quickest (NA)2.2 is only about 3/10ths......

What portion of the engine internals make the 2.4 easier to make fast?

Would it be the pistons made out of the same **** as 2.2 pistons?
How about the rods made out of the same **** as the 2.2?


OH WAIT, I know... its the fact that there are only about 1/10 as many camshaft choices for the 2.4 as the 2.2?

First of all, I think it would be awesome if you could find anywhere on this site or any other related site I frequent that shows that I am pissed because I have an econobox.

I think its much more likely that your pissed that you dont know how to make your car faster, and since your clearly an @ss noone will help you, so you routinely get beat by both all the 2.0 cars and all the fast 2.2's......And you realized that you really failed because for probably $1500 more you coulda had an LSJ......Man thats gotta just suck for your ego.
ujmmmm yeaa thats not correct.. but anywho. lol i'm on your side though lol
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Originally Posted by elecblue06
ujmmmm yeaa thats not correct.. but anywho. lol i'm on your side though lol
i think he got you on a technicality....they are made of the same stuff, just made a little better. Maven knows his ****...i have YET to see him some up against a question he cant answer relating to ecotecs (or GM FWD trannies for that matter)
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