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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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Huge Sale On AIS Water Methanol Injection Systems Till The End Of The Month

Many of you have asked for us to do a group buy over the past 2-3 months...and here it is. To make this as easy and uncomplicated as possible for members. No Group Buy Needed! And No Minimum Number Of Members To Qualify!

Good till the end of this month we will be offering the following discounts to CobaltSS.net members on the water methanol injection systems listed below.

Have questions or need help setting up a system for you Mustang give us a call at 801.447.2559 or email us at info@alcoholinjectionsystems.com

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Stage 1 Trunk Mount Water Methanol Injection System
Normally $369.99
On Sale Now For $299.99




Stage 2 Trunk Mount Water Methanol Injection System
Normally $599.99
On Sale Now For $524.99




Stage 1 Basic Fender/Firewall Mount Water Methanol Kit
Normally $239.99
On Sale Now For $189.99




Stage 1 Standard Fender/Firewall Mount Water Methanol Kit
Normally $259.99
On Sale Now For $209.99

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:09 PM
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Let us know if you have any questions or how we can help.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Im new to all this turbo stuff! First turbo car..... This helps the engine? How much HP would you see out of it? Have you installed one yet on a SS/TC? Thanks...... guys please dont ream me! lol I know theres a Search and Stickys... But at least im still talkin about this product and not some other bs. lol
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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I just picked one up from them for my ss/tc will post the results.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:05 PM
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Before the end of the month? lol What kit did you buy? Thanks for the help.. i only really plan on doing a programmer and intake come spring time or group buy time... let me know if its worth it. Thanks
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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This kit will pretty much give you an octane boost and cooling effect that will allow you to get a more aggressive tune, not sure exactly how much more this will help with the tc since i feel the iat2's are pretty low but for my sc it made the world of difference!
Good luck!
And btw this kit rocks!
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 08CobaltSSTC
Im new to all this turbo stuff! First turbo car..... This helps the engine? How much HP would you see out of it? Have you installed one yet on a SS/TC? Thanks...... guys please dont ream me! lol I know theres a Search and Stickys... But at least im still talkin about this product and not some other bs. lol
No worries. Basically a water methanol injection system will act as a substantial octane enhancer and will provide additional air charge cooling. Now if you haven't raised the boost over the factory settings and haven't tweaked the tune (advanced timing or leaned it out) or adding something like nitrous, you really don't need it unless you have some poor gas like California has where the best you can get is 91 octane and you may also be running in really hot climates as parts of the state can get.

If you have turned up the boost this will provide you with some nice additional engine safety against detonation by providing with the additional cooling and added octane mentioned above.

If you want to read more about water methanol injection and it's benefits go to our website www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com and read some of our tech articles we have posted. if you have any questions feel free to give me a call directly at 801.447.2559.

Rodney

Originally Posted by Sythen1678
This kit will pretty much give you an octane boost and cooling effect that will allow you to get a more aggressive tune, not sure exactly how much more this will help with the tc since i feel the iat2's are pretty low but for my sc it made the world of difference!
Good luck!
And btw this kit rocks!
Thanks for the support. We appreciate it very much.

Rodney

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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great deal, i will be ordering very soon
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 08:18 PM
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By the way. Something the turbocharged Cobalt owners should consider depending on the type of racing they are doing or driving. I just finished responding to an article on another forum in which the users was talking about whether he should run an intercooler or not. Here it is

.........You also need to realize the potentially bad situations you can run into with an intercooler and not being completely naive and think "I'm ALL Good". To many times i hear guys saying "oh just throw an intercooler on it and be done with it". OK One common problem I see with drag cars is staging with a completely heat soaked intercooler after just finishing a nice long burnout. Now even though your not building any boost in the box. Your still jamming a whole lot of hot air through the intercooler and no air is passing over it to cool it off. Now their staged with an intercooler at 200+ degree's which is only going to get hotter in the first part of the pass with more boost until the car starts to MPH and moves enough air through it to start cooling it off. Hopefully they have a conservative tune because many don't tune for a heat soaked intercooler so watch out. Funny thing is when someone hurts a motor sometimes they don't even figure out why they had a problem. They consider all the obvious things and still miss this part of it. They start looking to find the problem in other area's.

Had a water methanol injection system been used with the intercooler. It would have been triggered right away at the start of the run providing instant cooling and additional octane helping prevent this problem. Likewise, on the top end the air charge temps will be considerably lower then without. And lastly, when using a water methanol injection system with or without an intercooler. The ET's become much more consistent as the air charge temps will essentially remain the same even with back to back runs. This alone has become a big benefit for many which isn't spoken about to much. No more changes in ET going from the cool morning to hot afternoon either

Same thing can occur with a street car as above. Your sitting in traffic on the freeway on a hot summer day. Intercooler gets really heat soaked. Traffic opens up. You decide to show everyone a little something by getting on it and run into a little spark knock depending on your tune.

We always make our best results working with an efficient intercooler and water methanol injection.

Intercoolers are great. Just realize when they effective and when there not.

Rodney

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I just picked one up from them for my ss/tc will post the results.
Verne,

Nice meeting with you today. Sorry about that wait. It would have been nice to meet you downtown but I knew finding parking during the day would be such a pain and nearly impossible. Looking forward to hearing how your turbocharged Cobalt reacts to the water methanol injection. I'm not expecting to much of a drop in air charge temps initially with this cold weather we have here (high 20's low 30's). Plus the fact that your running a front mount air to air intercooler which always works really good in the cold.

It would be nice to get this thing on the dyno at some point. I'd like to find out where these new motors make their peak power with timing considering the new style injection and heads they have. Till, you'll be able to play with timing and see how the car pulls with a little more.

You know something I thought about right after you left was what happens when you have to resurface the head with the new injection location. I use to work at a head shop when I was younger and resurfacing a head was the norm anytime someone over heated a motor. Send me a link to the pictures you were telling me about. I'd like to see exactly what it looks like.

Thanks for your business and support.

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 08:43 AM
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https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...141149&page=21
this page has a pic of the piston and injector. I will be back on the dyno sonn with meth and a couple other upgrades. I will keep you posted.

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No worries. Basically a water methanol injection system will act as a substantial octane enhancer and will provide additional air charge cooling. Now if you haven't raised the boost over the factory settings and haven't tweaked the tune (advanced timing or leaned it out) or adding something like nitrous, you really don't need it unless you have some poor gas like California has where the best you can get is 91 octane and you may also be running in really hot climates as parts of the state can get.

If you have turned up the boost this will provide you with some nice additional engine safety against detonation by providing with the additional cooling and added octane mentioned above.

If you want to read more about water methanol injection and it's benefits go to our website www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com and read some of our tech articles we have posted. if you have any questions feel free to give me a call directly at 801.447.2559.

Rodney



Thanks for the support. We appreciate it very much.

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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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Thanks for the Info!!
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Old Nov 23, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 08CobaltSSTC
Thanks for the Info!!
Sure thing. Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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You can also email me directly at rodney@alcoholinjectionsystems.com
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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Sale ending this month. This is a great opportunity to save some money and get a big discount on the following systems listed above.

The prices listed on the CobaltSS.net forum are slightly lower then those listed on the site giving you members an even better deal vs those who are coming from the internet in general.

Since we are into the weekend and no one will be available to answer phone calls at this time. However, to accommodate you and to get the lower prices as advertised above. You can place your order online and simple type in the message box when placing your order you would like to receive the pricing as shown on the forum. Your order will then be adjusted to the lower amount before the credit card is charged and a new invoice will be sent to you showing the new lower amount.

With all the response and requests for us to do a group buy. We decided this would be much easier then running an actual group buy and holding orders till we reach the minimum number of sales. This is a great discount which we can only offer for a short period of time.

Let me know if you have any other questions or how we can help.

Rodney

PS. Feel free to email me directly at rodney@alcoholinjectionsystems.com as I will be checking my emails through out the weekend and can return calls today or tomorrow if needed. Just leave your number and a good time to call you back.
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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Do to all the requests the sale is extended till the end of December. Happy Holidays.

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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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i talk to boostking he recommended you guys so make sure u guys give him a pat on the back lol

but i will be getting this set up when i get my turbo swap.... or maybe before but atleast not till it warms so hopefully march-april
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PimpLay2
i talk to boostking he recommended you guys so make sure u guys give him a pat on the back lol

but i will be getting this set up when i get my turbo swap.... or maybe before but atleast not till it warms so hopefully march-april
PimpLay2,

Sounds great. Tell boostking thanks and hi for us the next time you talk to him. By the way. Which system are you looking at purchasing? Our Base systems (everything minus the tank) is only $189.99 right now. This has been one of the most popular systems during this sale.

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the most crazy one lol
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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the most crazy one lol
Thats funny. Well, give me a call when your ready to order. We can talk about all the various systems but really all you need is the one I mentioned already unless you want the trunk mount version.

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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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whats the easiest? im guessing under hood set up because there is no need to run hoses through the whole car? idk let me know what YOU think I should get.... im getting the gt30 and ima need some meth to be my bandaid

i might come to colombus and have you guys do the install
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How does this work with direct injection? As I understand it, the fuel is sprayed into the cylinder in a very specific way to create the proper combustion. If you are adding fuel into the intake port wouldn't that disrupt the combustion process? If so, how exactly would it effect the LNF's? Could this cause long term problems?
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AIS, did you see my questions? Or does anyone have any input on meth on a LNF?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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my good friend and tuning partner have a sol. running straight meth and are doing 12.0's on all season tires and min. mods (stock turbo and such). so I would say meth is the reason why the car is so fast. I have not done much with meth but my partner lives by it. I have a meth kit on my 08 ss/tc. I am waiting till my swap is done so I can spend some time on the dyno and see what the lnf wants as far as fuel,time, and meth.
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Originally Posted by marcusicp
How does this work with direct injection? As I understand it, the fuel is sprayed into the cylinder in a very specific way to create the proper combustion. If you are adding fuel into the intake port wouldn't that disrupt the combustion process? If so, how exactly would it effect the LNF's? Could this cause long term problems?
It works exactly the same way and will not disrupt the combustion chamber process. There are absolutely no long term problems that are going to occur either.

Rodney

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my good friend and tuning partner have a sol. running straight meth and are doing 12.0's on all season tires and min. mods (stock turbo and such). so I would say meth is the reason why the car is so fast. I have not done much with meth but my partner lives by it. I have a meth kit on my 08 ss/tc. I am waiting till my swap is done so I can spend some time on the dyno and see what the lnf wants as far as fuel,time, and meth.
Yes, I prefer to use pure methanol vs using mix's as well with EFI applications.

Rodney

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