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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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CARB EO info on stage 1 and 2

go to this page - http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

enter 126-10

eo was approved on 2/7/06


there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering


if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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The ECOTEC Supercharger Upgrade Kit, Stage 1 includes the following main parts: A set of 5.3 grams/second fuel injectors to replace the stock 4.35 grams/second injectors and a new fuel calibration that is downloaded onto the stock ECU by a General Motors dealer. The new fuel calibration has no user adjustments. The ECOTEC Supercharger Upgrade Kit, Stage 2, includes all components of Stage 1 and a 77.9 mm diameter supercharger pulley. No changes are made to the stock air box or thermostat. Maximum boost produced by the Stage 2 kit is 14.5 pounds per square inch. Maximum boost pressure produced by the Stage 1 kit is the same as stock (12.5 pounds per square inch).
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
go to this page - http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php

enter 126-10

eo was approved on 2/7/06


there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering


if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
Cool find
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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pdf format with more info Emissions data from Roush.

http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-126-10.pdf
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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NICE! Same reflash for both kits!
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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well if it was carb'd on 2/7/06 that explains the delays........
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:31 PM
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the only thing i found odd was the amount of boost for stage 2 , seams kinda low

does anyoneknow what the 77.9mm pulley works out to inch wise ?

yup , and the 2.2 cavalier sunfire kits were released last week
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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thats close to a 3" pulley, so its about right.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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14.5psi is what I ran with the 3" pulley with the rest of the car stock.
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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thats close to a 3" pulley, so its about right.

from the looks of the #'s in your sig is about right with what GM is saying power wise for the kit
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:08 AM
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well, off to get my own pulley
wonder what the belt will run..?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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Good find! That should indicate that the kits will be released fairly soon. YAY!!!
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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anyone notice that "Evaluation Summary" portion of this PDF file says that a "high flow air filter cartridge replacement" is part of Stage 2. Second to last page, "Device Description" paragraph.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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Does anyone know how long it takes from CARB cert. to production release
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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Doesn't say anything about raising the redline in there......Alpha you have some explaining to do lol
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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Yeah no ****.. i want a 7000 redline. and the 1 inch pulley so i can run 40lbs of boost.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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the stage kits are looking less and less appelling to me. the stuff revitup is talking about souds mutch better better
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by korax123
Doesn't say anything about raising the redline in there......Alpha you have some explaining to do lol

It also doesn't say anything about a new belt either.....doesn't mean we arent getting one. So until someone gets the kit we really will not know about the redline.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Yea but if the redline was increased it would make more boost then 12.5 and 14.5 but then again they control that with the ECU. And maybe the figured out you don't need a smaller belt for the 3".
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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You would not necessarily make anymore boost. I see 12.5 psi before redline now and it doesn't go higher because the comp won't let it and the flow is increased at higher rpm to reduce the boost seen. Boost is not solely defined by the rpm and the pulley size...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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nice finds and it seems to answer that long lost question ... 1 or 2 reflash for the kits! and it seems to be one unless im wrong
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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how do you know that the stage 1 and 2 use the same reflash
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Manny13
anyone notice that "Evaluation Summary" portion of this PDF file says that a "high flow air filter cartridge replacement" is part of Stage 2. Second to last page, "Device Description" paragraph.
Yeah man I noticed that also...
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by retrop
You would not necessarily make anymore boost. I see 12.5 psi before redline now and it doesn't go higher because the comp won't let it and the flow is increased at higher rpm to reduce the boost seen. Boost is not solely defined by the rpm and the pulley size...
Boost does not solely relie on the pulley size and rpm but it does constitute 98% of it. You have 1 car with stock exhaust and 1 with a free flowing one the free flowing one should make less boost. But raise the rev limit and they both will make more then what they did from the start because there would be increased pressure in the manifold do to spinning faster.

How fast the S/C spins has a great part to do on how much psi is created. So if you see 12.5 before redline unplug the seloniod and plug the hose and see if you make any more boost. Im guessing the car would make 13-13.5 with a 7k redline with the boost bypass mod done.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by korax123
Boost does not solely relie on the pulley size and rpm but it does constitute 98% of it. You have 1 car with stock exhaust and 1 with a free flowing one the free flowing one should make less boost. But raise the rev limit and they both will make more then what they did from the start because there would be increased pressure in the manifold do to spinning faster.

How fast the S/C spins has a great part to do on how much psi is created. So if you see 12.5 before redline unplug the seloniod and plug the hose and see if you make any more boost. Im guessing the car would make 13-13.5 with a 7k redline with the boost bypass mod done.

Quite possibly.

This whole situation is similar to the "205 hp" the cars are rated at. They are at most partial truths. Most people who have dyno'ed stock have been near the 205 mark where GM rated the car, 5600 rpm. And if GM rated the hp that low in the rpm w/ a 6500 redline who is to say that the stuff they are saying now is not also a partial truth. The 14.5 psi could be the boost at some other rpm not the peak boost. That is all i was getting at.
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