CARB EO info on stage 1 and 2
CARB EO info on stage 1 and 2
go to this page - http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
enter 126-10
eo was approved on 2/7/06
there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering
if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
enter 126-10
eo was approved on 2/7/06
there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering
if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
The ECOTEC Supercharger Upgrade Kit, Stage 1 includes the following main parts: A set of 5.3 grams/second fuel injectors to replace the stock 4.35 grams/second injectors and a new fuel calibration that is downloaded onto the stock ECU by a General Motors dealer. The new fuel calibration has no user adjustments. The ECOTEC Supercharger Upgrade Kit, Stage 2, includes all components of Stage 1 and a 77.9 mm diameter supercharger pulley. No changes are made to the stock air box or thermostat. Maximum boost produced by the Stage 2 kit is 14.5 pounds per square inch. Maximum boost pressure produced by the Stage 1 kit is the same as stock (12.5 pounds per square inch).
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
go to this page - http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
enter 126-10
eo was approved on 2/7/06
there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering
if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
enter 126-10
eo was approved on 2/7/06
there is also a EO # for the 2.2 and 2.4 intakes that GM will be offering
if you play with the -10 and changes it to less than 10 you will see the other EO #'s
pdf format with more info Emissions data from Roush.
http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-126-10.pdf
http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/de...o/D-126-10.pdf
the only thing i found odd was the amount of boost for stage 2 , seams kinda low
does anyoneknow what the 77.9mm pulley works out to inch wise ?
yup , and the 2.2 cavalier sunfire kits were released last week
does anyoneknow what the 77.9mm pulley works out to inch wise ?
yup , and the 2.2 cavalier sunfire kits were released last week
Originally Posted by silverSS
thats close to a 3" pulley, so its about right.
from the looks of the #'s in your sig is about right with what GM is saying power wise for the kit
Originally Posted by korax123
Doesn't say anything about raising the redline in there......Alpha you have some explaining to do lol
It also doesn't say anything about a new belt either.....doesn't mean we arent getting one. So until someone gets the kit we really will not know about the redline.
Yea but if the redline was increased it would make more boost then 12.5 and 14.5 but then again they control that with the ECU. And maybe the figured out you don't need a smaller belt for the 3".
You would not necessarily make anymore boost. I see 12.5 psi before redline now and it doesn't go higher because the comp won't let it and the flow is increased at higher rpm to reduce the boost seen. Boost is not solely defined by the rpm and the pulley size...
Originally Posted by Manny13
anyone notice that "Evaluation Summary" portion of this PDF file says that a "high flow air filter cartridge replacement" is part of Stage 2. Second to last page, "Device Description" paragraph.
Originally Posted by retrop
You would not necessarily make anymore boost. I see 12.5 psi before redline now and it doesn't go higher because the comp won't let it and the flow is increased at higher rpm to reduce the boost seen. Boost is not solely defined by the rpm and the pulley size...
How fast the S/C spins has a great part to do on how much psi is created. So if you see 12.5 before redline unplug the seloniod and plug the hose and see if you make any more boost. Im guessing the car would make 13-13.5 with a 7k redline with the boost bypass mod done.
Originally Posted by korax123
Boost does not solely relie on the pulley size and rpm but it does constitute 98% of it. You have 1 car with stock exhaust and 1 with a free flowing one the free flowing one should make less boost. But raise the rev limit and they both will make more then what they did from the start because there would be increased pressure in the manifold do to spinning faster.
How fast the S/C spins has a great part to do on how much psi is created. So if you see 12.5 before redline unplug the seloniod and plug the hose and see if you make any more boost. Im guessing the car would make 13-13.5 with a 7k redline with the boost bypass mod done.
How fast the S/C spins has a great part to do on how much psi is created. So if you see 12.5 before redline unplug the seloniod and plug the hose and see if you make any more boost. Im guessing the car would make 13-13.5 with a 7k redline with the boost bypass mod done.
Quite possibly.
This whole situation is similar to the "205 hp" the cars are rated at. They are at most partial truths. Most people who have dyno'ed stock have been near the 205 mark where GM rated the car, 5600 rpm. And if GM rated the hp that low in the rpm w/ a 6500 redline who is to say that the stuff they are saying now is not also a partial truth. The 14.5 psi could be the boost at some other rpm not the peak boost. That is all i was getting at.


