Modular pulley system pricing lowered! [Archive]

Zooomer

12-18-2008, 11:16 AM

Nice price. But...

Any plans to fix the twincharge kit I've been trying to patch up for you guys? You know, Chris from Englewood, OH. Black 2007 ss/sc. Had a terrible time with you exhaust mani cracking. Well the tune was crap, he doesn't have a return fuel system like you said you installed, and the plastic crackerjack "boost controllers" that have white-out for markers... they blow.

Mods and Zooomer: I have NOT received any call backs or returned emails, neither has said-owner of the twincharged Cobalt.... PM's just get a reply "Forward to customer service"

We did not install, say we installed, or charge for a return style fuel system. This is something that you and the people on this board do not understand. We changed the system to a boost referenced fuel system which is what's required for higher boost levels.

The tune on the car was absolutely perfect when it left here. Once a custom ZZP tune is changed, the car is doomed. No one understands or has the knowledge to know what we did or why we did it. The only fix would be to reflash the computer to the way it left here. One single example is that the fueling tables are modified for the way we modified the fueling system on the car. Since no one but ZZP does this, it would be impossible for anyone to tune the car properly but us or at least with instruction from us. We hear quite often that people had to 'fix our stuff' but it's rarely accurate. I can assure you that anything you have done to fix his car has made it worse because you wouldn't know without asking us why things are done how they are. It's the same as if you worked on a car and did a bunch of custom fabbing and then we opened the PCM file and started saying it was wrong. It would be impossible for us to know if the tune was right or wrong if we didn't know what you did to the car.

Let me give 2 examples:
Customer brings their Monte Carlo to the dealership because they have an issue. The dealer 'fixes' their PCM because it had the wrong fuel injectors in it for that car. We had installed 60's here and now the dealer flased it for 22's. Car would no longer run after being 'fixed'.

Example 2:
On our turbo kits, the factory MAF will max so we modify them by breaking a section of off them. We had a customer who claimed to be an expert get a hold of our build and tell the customer that we screwed him and his MAF was broken. So he replaced the MAF and told us we owed him the $ for that. This threw the tune off of course so this 'expert' then 'fixed' the tune. The car was not right from that point on and the customer blamed us not only for the poorly running car but for breaking his MAF sensor as well.

The twin charged kit we did left her pefect and had about 10 dyno's and 3 days of street driving on the tune. Chris left here posting videos of his car and immediately turned up the boost. He was raving about it. Some time later we hear that 3 separate people had to 'fix' his tune and now people are wondering why his car isn't right. Tell you what, undo everything that was done after the car left here and reflash it with our tune and it will be right. If that's not possible, the car can be brought back here and we can charge to put it back to where it was when it left here.