SS/TC FE5 upgrade news!!!!
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Okay guys, as any of you who read any of my posts know i am in the process of swapping out from LS to TC suspension/steering. Today was another landmark day as I intended to install the knuckles. Heres why I didnt:

Obviosuly you can see why the LNF(SS/TC) knuckle is desirable in this pic(its on the right)
You can also sort of see the problem, the hub pattern is different. oops.
You have to use LNF hubs with the LNF knuckle(There are two other options but neither is a direct bolton)
Okay, you say....so we use LNF hubs big whoop. Not quite. The LNF hubs only work with LNF axles.(or GrandAm spec axles) So if youve got an SS/SC you just upgrade to LNF axles and your set. The problem lies in what do you do if you dont run an F35 transmission?
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but without custom axles or modifying the bolt hub mounting pattern on the knuckle(elongating the holes, this is what the road race cars do) guys without an F35 are S.O.L.
I personally will be(with extensive support from a good friend) swapping to a complete four wheel disc 5 lug setup, and either running LNF hubs and custom axles OR modifying the LNF knuckles to accept SS/SC wheel bearing OR possibly ditching the LNF knuckles all together in favor of the GMRacing units.
So before you go and spend your hard earned money on this worthy upgrade, know that on a 2.2/2.4 car that it IS NOT a direct bolt-on and you will need to modify the knuckles(elongate hub mounting holes) and on an LSJ you will need to elongate the hub mounting holes or upgrade to LNF axles and hubs.

Obviosuly you can see why the LNF(SS/TC) knuckle is desirable in this pic(its on the right)
You can also sort of see the problem, the hub pattern is different. oops.
You have to use LNF hubs with the LNF knuckle(There are two other options but neither is a direct bolton)
Okay, you say....so we use LNF hubs big whoop. Not quite. The LNF hubs only work with LNF axles.(or GrandAm spec axles) So if youve got an SS/SC you just upgrade to LNF axles and your set. The problem lies in what do you do if you dont run an F35 transmission?
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but without custom axles or modifying the bolt hub mounting pattern on the knuckle(elongating the holes, this is what the road race cars do) guys without an F35 are S.O.L.
I personally will be(with extensive support from a good friend) swapping to a complete four wheel disc 5 lug setup, and either running LNF hubs and custom axles OR modifying the LNF knuckles to accept SS/SC wheel bearing OR possibly ditching the LNF knuckles all together in favor of the GMRacing units.
So before you go and spend your hard earned money on this worthy upgrade, know that on a 2.2/2.4 car that it IS NOT a direct bolt-on and you will need to modify the knuckles(elongate hub mounting holes) and on an LSJ you will need to elongate the hub mounting holes or upgrade to LNF axles and hubs.
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I may just have to put an F35 in it and get it over with
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I want to, the woman may not want me to, so if heads are being butt...we will do it, but I'll have to be back like a good boy.
I will help you when you go 5 lug. The following weekend I would be free the times you are available, if you are a pimp like that.
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I'll let you know.
I want to, the woman may not want me to, so if heads are being butt...we will do it, but I'll have to be back like a good boy.
I will help you when you go 5 lug. The following weekend I would be free the times you are available, if you are a pimp like that.
I want to, the woman may not want me to, so if heads are being butt...we will do it, but I'll have to be back like a good boy.
I will help you when you go 5 lug. The following weekend I would be free the times you are available, if you are a pimp like that.
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same for you i can get the lnf set up put together for you if you wish, might as well go to brembos at the same time (all used stuff but good i think...) just thinking of the 157 readout on the LIE with stock brakes....not a lot of !woah! and a whole lot of wooooooooaaaaaaahhhhh!
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i got lots of G6 if you need them on the shelf, we should email/ talk sometime i can put a package together for you....
same for you i can get the lnf set up put together for you if you wish, might as well go to brembos at the same time (all used stuff but good i think...) just thinking of the 157 readout on the LIE with stock brakes....not a lot of !woah! and a whole lot of wooooooooaaaaaaahhhhh!
same for you i can get the lnf set up put together for you if you wish, might as well go to brembos at the same time (all used stuff but good i think...) just thinking of the 157 readout on the LIE with stock brakes....not a lot of !woah! and a whole lot of wooooooooaaaaaaahhhhh!
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Not too much of a PITA, we arent talking much, maybe 2 or 3mm on two of the holes. One will line up(the top) then you would need to ovalize the two lower holes to match the SS/SC hubs pattern, take just a few minutes on a mill, maybe 30 minutes with a hand file.
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