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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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Exclamation SS/TC FE5 upgrade news!!!!

Okay guys, as any of you who read any of my posts know i am in the process of swapping out from LS to TC suspension/steering. Today was another landmark day as I intended to install the knuckles. Heres why I didnt:


Obviosuly you can see why the LNF(SS/TC) knuckle is desirable in this pic(its on the right)

You can also sort of see the problem, the hub pattern is different. oops.

You have to use LNF hubs with the LNF knuckle(There are two other options but neither is a direct bolton)

Okay, you say....so we use LNF hubs big whoop. Not quite. The LNF hubs only work with LNF axles.(or GrandAm spec axles) So if youve got an SS/SC you just upgrade to LNF axles and your set. The problem lies in what do you do if you dont run an F35 transmission?

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but without custom axles or modifying the bolt hub mounting pattern on the knuckle(elongating the holes, this is what the road race cars do) guys without an F35 are S.O.L.

I personally will be(with extensive support from a good friend) swapping to a complete four wheel disc 5 lug setup, and either running LNF hubs and custom axles OR modifying the LNF knuckles to accept SS/SC wheel bearing OR possibly ditching the LNF knuckles all together in favor of the GMRacing units.

So before you go and spend your hard earned money on this worthy upgrade, know that on a 2.2/2.4 car that it IS NOT a direct bolt-on and you will need to modify the knuckles(elongate hub mounting holes) and on an LSJ you will need to elongate the hub mounting holes or upgrade to LNF axles and hubs.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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ouch, sucks man.
If I end up keeping the car, which it looks like I will be after all, I'll be wanting to do this swap as I am pretty sure something is broken in there lol.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
ouch, sucks man.
If I end up keeping the car, which it looks like I will be after all, I'll be wanting to do this swap as I am pretty sure something is broken in there lol.
Itll be alright, its just not gonna get done till the very end of the month or February or so now. Ill still have the meanest 2.2 suspension setup on here, dont worry

I may just have to put an F35 in it and get it over with
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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oh...at least you provide more info for the forum. Hope you will get it all sorted out.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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This is why Brad r0x0rz

Great info.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
This is why Brad r0x0rz

Great info.
we still doing your ***** next weekend?


Ill need your help for when I go 5 lug, maybe that other fat bastid just for fun too.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
we still doing your ***** next weekend?


Ill need your help for when I go 5 lug, maybe that other fat bastid just for fun too.
I'll let you know.

I want to, the woman may not want me to, so if heads are being butt...we will do it, but I'll have to be back like a good boy.

I will help you when you go 5 lug. The following weekend I would be free the times you are available, if you are a pimp like that.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by steddy2112
I'll let you know.

I want to, the woman may not want me to, so if heads are being butt...we will do it, but I'll have to be back like a good boy.

I will help you when you go 5 lug. The following weekend I would be free the times you are available, if you are a pimp like that.
I wont have the stuff to go 5 lug by that weekend, itll probably be 1st week of Feb at earliest.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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Lettme know and I will let you know if I am off or not/available.

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:03 PM
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Thanks for the update Maven. I guess my DD will just go with the gm race knuckles if I can still find them.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Thanks for the update Maven. I guess my DD will just go with the gm race knuckles if I can still find them.
Why? you can take full advantage of the whole package with no headaches, better axles, better hubs the whole bit.
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Maven
Why? you can take full advantage of the whole package with no headaches, better axles, better hubs the whole bit.
I already have the DDS stage 2 axles that only have 500 miles on them.
Do you have a price on this kit?
Is there a site where I can get more info?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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How much of a PITA would it be to elongating the holes to work with the normal SS/SC hubs and axles?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Thanks for the update Maven. I guess my DD will just go with the gm race knuckles if I can still find them.
i got lots of G6 if you need them on the shelf, we should email/ talk sometime i can put a package together for you....

Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
ouch, sucks man.
If I end up keeping the car, which it looks like I will be after all, I'll be wanting to do this swap as I am pretty sure something is broken in there lol.
same for you i can get the lnf set up put together for you if you wish, might as well go to brembos at the same time (all used stuff but good i think...) just thinking of the 157 readout on the LIE with stock brakes....not a lot of !woah! and a whole lot of wooooooooaaaaaaahhhhh!

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by qwikredline
i got lots of G6 if you need them on the shelf, we should email/ talk sometime i can put a package together for you....



same for you i can get the lnf set up put together for you if you wish, might as well go to brembos at the same time (all used stuff but good i think...) just thinking of the 157 readout on the LIE with stock brakes....not a lot of !woah! and a whole lot of wooooooooaaaaaaahhhhh!
Quick I am emailing you in a few to talk to you about knuckles too.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Eagle_f90
How much of a PITA would it be to elongating the holes to work with the normal SS/SC hubs and axles?
Not too much of a PITA, we arent talking much, maybe 2 or 3mm on two of the holes. One will line up(the top) then you would need to ovalize the two lower holes to match the SS/SC hubs pattern, take just a few minutes on a mill, maybe 30 minutes with a hand file.

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