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is it benficial to run a 2.5??

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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is it benficial to run a 2.5??

just wondering what kind of numbers you can make compared to a 2.8. will it really make that much more torque? can it make 290hp?? simply- is it beneficial, or will it create too much heat and only lose power? thank you
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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if you have the money to run all the supporting mods. do it.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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A 2.5 will over spin the blower.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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too much heat, overspinning blower, instead invest in traction mods like rotated mounts.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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oh god...here we go. Search for the 2.6 pulley thread that's been up recently. They're going to be people threatening each other over this.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ViLerocker
oh god...here we go. Search for the 2.6 pulley thread that's been up recently. They're going to be people threatening each other over this.
lolz- i saw that post- but my buddy is fighting with me over the amazing gains a 2.5 would bring, so i decided to get other opinions
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Never run anything less than a 2.8 unless you're an a-hole.

If you can't make power with a 2.8 then you're not going to make any more with a 2.7, 2.6 or 2.5.

There are plenty of ways to make power with this car, squeezing the **** out of your blower until you burn up your engine is not one of them.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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A 2.79/2.8 shouldn't have a problem being in the 12's set-up right.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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A 2.79/2.8 shouldn't have a problem being in the 12's set-up right.
This car is a trap car, if you want actual 12's you need to spend some serious money into traction mods.

But yes, you can get the trap speed to pull off a 12 with a 2.8.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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anyone that has ran it and got it dynoed chime in please....... id like to know numbers

by the way- altiery54 is the one telling me that the 2.5 will achieve 290whp, when his 2.8 made 257

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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Altiery54 is a friend of mine and this is what he wishes for me to post for him......

Originally Posted by Altiery54
you are all ignorant. a 2.5" will give you more tq than any other pulley obviously. yes it creates more heat and wont make much more if any peak hp, but the gains are there. how many 3.0" off n20 do you see hitting 280+whp? NONE theres a reason for it
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:02 PM
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id like to know how many cars off n2o with a 2.5 have hit 290whp.....???
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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True.....the 2.5" does give much more tq, not much more hp, but more tq. It does create more heat, but with the right supporting mods can be done. People have run 2.5 rings with no cooling mods for up to two years without any problems, some have nuked their motors on a 2.5. it has alot to do with the tune and if you are willing to risk it. It does overspin the blower, and will cause damage at some point. It can make 290 and over with the right mods. people have made 290 with a 2.7. A 2.5 will pass 300 with the right tune and mods. In the end.....IT WILL MAKE POWER/TORQUE, BUT IT WILL CAUSE DAMAGE EVENTUALLY.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSurferSS/SC
True.....the 2.5" does give much more tq, not much more hp, but more tq. It does create more heat, but with the right supporting mods can be done. People have run 2.5 rings with no cooling mods for up to two years without any problems, some have nuked their motors on a 2.5. it has alot to do with the tune and if you are willing to risk it. It does overspin the blower, and will cause damage at some point. It can make 290 and over with the right mods. people have made 290 with a 2.7. A 2.5 will pass 300 with the right tune and mods. In the end.....IT WILL MAKE POWER/TORQUE, BUT IT WILL CAUSE DAMAGE EVENTUALLY.


i have never seen anyone pass 300 hp on the m62 without nitrous----- show me sheets please
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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most i have seen was 298 whp on a 2.55
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkunzy1690
i have never seen anyone pass 300 hp on the m62 without nitrous----- show me sheets please
just out of curiousity........ y do you find it hard to believe that 300hp on a m62 is possible?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
just out of curiousity........ y do you find it hard to believe that 300hp on a m62 is possible?
considering that reaching 300hp on the stock blower is one of the most challenging topics on this site......majority of people would say its near impossible without other power adders
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:31 PM
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Many of the engines making that big power on the smaller pulley have also been built to an extent ie pistons, valvetrain, ect... You can run a 2.5 if you want, but just put some money away for a new engine when it goes POP! You'll get more down low torque/ but you're sacraficing hp to make hp, if that makes sense, it offsets itself. There are good tuners on this site who've made solid power with very small pulleys, but they can monitor and tune everything themselves as needed, and that engine will fail prematurely, there's no way around it. That's basically the cliffnotes version of the 2.6 thread with the very little I actually know rolled into it
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ViLerocker
Many of the engines making that big power on the smaller pulley have also been built to an extent ie pistons, valvetrain, ect... You can run a 2.5 if you want, but just put some money away for a new engine when it goes POP! You'll get more down low torque/ but you're sacraficing hp to make hp, if that makes sense, it offsets itself. There are good tuners on this site who've made solid power with very small pulleys, but they can monitor and tune everything themselves as needed, and that engine will fail prematurely, there's no way around it. That's basically the cliffnotes version of the 2.6 thread with the very little I actually know rolled into it


thank you for summing things up!
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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i agree to disagree. with a right tune and supporting mods. you can make 300. i strongly believe that. i know somebody on here has it, and if they ever speak up just ask for there exact mods... and i'm pretty sure thats all you have to copy to get the same...
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkunzy1690
considering that reaching 300hp on the stock blower is one of the most challenging topics on this site......majority of people would say its near impossible without other power adders
well "majority of people" need to open there minds and realize that the parts are out there to make 300hp on the stock blower without the addition of nitrous. i know of a handfull of guys who have hit that 300whp mark with the m62. it's all about smart modding, getting all the supporting mods and every single "bolt-on" is a must. having the right person tune you is an absolute must. in all honesty.... if you want 300whp from the m62, the cheapest way is nitrous. right now my set up is a 3" pulley, 1 step colder plugs, 42s, aem craptastic intake, & magnaflow muffler and i put down 240whp/206wtq on a MUSTANG dyno! now if i were to jump on a Dynojet, i'd put down almost 270whp/230wtq.... i could for $400 get the nitrous kit from OTTP and put down over 300whp.

but if you dont want nitrous...... 2.8, 60s, 2 step colder plugs, dual pass, cx racing h/e kit, option b, upgrade the ic pump, meth injection, cai, ported the m62, full 3" exhaust, and a ported/polished head with a great tune will slap that 300whp mark around easily.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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A handful of people have broken 300whp with the M62. Use the search button if you don't believe me. It's not easy, but it is def. possible. Like rally said, you need a fantastic toon and every possible bolt-on, Plus some magic fairy dust. But with the right research, parts, and toon, it is very possible.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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unfortunately most of the people on this forum are quick to call BS when someone talks about 300whp on the m62....... its pathetic actually. if they would just do the research and actually pay attention when the REAL TUNERS on this forum speak this subject wouldn't be such a massively retarded discussion.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rallycobalt06
unfortunately most of the people on this forum are quick to call BS when someone talks about 300whp on the m62....... its pathetic actually. if they would just do the research and actually pay attention when the REAL TUNERS on this forum speak this subject wouldn't be such a massively retarded discussion.
Yep....everytime I hear some one say anything about 300whp on the m62 w/o nitrous, some one will come in and throw up the bs flag. There are alot of things that can be done to achieve this goal, it may be easier to go turbo, or tvs, but the m62 can get to 300whp for sure. just takes some know how, elbow grease, and the right mods.
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