oh it will here soon too. cant have warm weather without rain it seems like. its just odd that its early february and its 50 here, on its way up to 60 over the next couple days. especially when it was sub zero a few weeks ago.

lmao thats how colorado weather is all year round... even we have been seeing 50's and 60's here...

ok, well i didnt hit up the post office b4 they closed, so...im getting my mom to send it for me on monday! lmao troo story

your on my shit list now buddy!!.... your decision has affected us all :lol:

your on my shit list now buddy!!.... your decision has affected us all :lol:

Not necessarily. I sent out my payment last Wednesday. Should be only a matter of time...

You guys need to do a before and after dyno. You are going to be disappointed when you LOSE 10-15HP over the stock header.

why is that?

You guys need to do a before and after dyno. You are going to be disappointed when you LOSE 10-15HP over the stock header.

this header should give us more bottom end(which in turn might take a little bit away from the top end or peak numbers compared to stock but i doubt it) where as the stock MANIFOLD doesn't flow as well and being that its so short will have more top end...however, iv never seen before/after dynos to prove this, jsut my guess
I'm getting it because i want a little more bottom end power...and it sounds fk'n sick haha

If you are buying it for the sound, that's cool. I personally think it sounds raspy. Usually when a product gains HP, the manufacturer is more than happy to post Dyno graphs. A friend of mine bought one and did a before and after dyno. He lost about 10HP.

any thoughts on this JBP? how about a dyno graph?

If you are buying it for the sound, that's cool. I personally think it sounds raspy. Usually when a product gains HP, the manufacturer is more than happy to post Dyno graphs. A friend of mine bought one and did a before and after dyno. He lost about 10HP.

Ok, that may be true, but it may be misinformaton, which you don't need to be spreading. My guess is that he got this, and the car wasn't pushing the kind of power to require a 3" exhaust system, and that sir, is why he lost power. Velocity dropped, and not enough air was moving. I can see this being the issue on cars that are not modded enough to warrant a 3" system, but until you get the facts from your "buddy" don't spread slander.

I consider dyno graphs to be factual. He changed out the header ONLY. He was running a 2.5" exhaust. Ask JBP for dyno graphs and see what you get. I went from a GMPP 2.25" exhaust to a Hahn 3" on a stock LSJ tune and I noticed a decent increase in performance, so I'm not sure where you are coming from there. I am still using the stock header and DP for now though.

I never heard of someone losing 10HP with the header or any HP whatsoever. The powerband is shifted down-low with our header. I'll get dyno's of Player_1's car and post them, and everyone can check the torque curve and see how they like it. Right now we've moved the shop, I'll have to dig through boxes to find them and scan them. He's pushing around 260hp.

i'm not trying to start a fight but isn't it funny how is it always "my friend" ... never mentions a name or provides any proof of his own... bumpin, and for all you know he switched out the manifold to the header and didn't get it bolted down right and was having a horrible exhaust leak right at the head... if all your looking at is dyno sheets... there are alot of factors to be played into something like that...

I consider dyno graphs to be factual. He changed out the header ONLY. He was running a 2.5" exhaust. Ask JBP for dyno graphs and see what you get. I went from a GMPP 2.25" exhaust to a Hahn 3" on a stock LSJ tune and I noticed a decent increase in performance, so I'm not sure where you are coming from there. I am still using the stock header and DP for now though.


have any proof? i doubt it, jsut curious. was it on the same dyno, same day same conditions? Was the dyno numbers repeatable? were his iats okay? i'm sure you just blow me off though cause you seem like a troll.

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We're over the ten mark guys. This means that we start shipping today/tomorrow for the first ten. Don't worry andrew97, we'll include you on the first 10 as well. We've made it thus far, keep the payments coming in guys.

YAY! i cant wait.....

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We're over the ten mark guys. This means that we start shipping today/tomorrow for the first ten. Don't worry andrew97, we'll include you on the first 10 as well. We've made it thus far, keep the payments coming in guys.

WOOT! Keep us updated on whether or not they'll be sent out today or tomorrow. Will we receive tracking numbers as well?

Where is red_line_cobalt?

He started the thread and put his name down for 2! :)

:poke:

Maybe he didn't send in his payment.

hmm oh well, im just glad i got in on the first 10:guns:

Maybe he didn't send in his payment.

I know. WTF! He is on the TVS GB list and has also not sent in his payment...
:nono:

jk. I am just giving him a hard time. He is a good guy!

Drop us an email and we'll give you a tracking number.

FINALLY!...NA IM JUST PLAYING, BUT I CANT FREAKING WAIT..... THATS WHATS UP!


JBP IS THE F***ING S*IT!!!!!:guns:

Good to hear, and I can and will do before and after dyno comparisons in our shop. Looking forward to losing 10whp lmao. NOT

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sweet great to hear im in the first group thanks! cant wait to get this

Sounds sweet
i love the deep sound everyone buy this!!!!!!!:lol:
but seriously

Is there a Max Brown here in the GB? If so, please stand up!

were yall closed today? the postal service people gave me a trackin number and it said they treid to deliver my money order today and it said you were closed

JBP, I have to drop out. I need the funds to rebuild the motor, header can wait.

JBP let me know if i can still be in on this deal for the 30% off. i have the money and ready to send if it is still available and if there are other deals let me know?

Good to hear, and I can and will do before and after dyno comparisons in our shop. Looking forward to losing 10whp lmao. NOT
haha, im willing to lose 10 hp jsut cuz i like the sound lol
I'm going to their shop tmro to get it installed:D I'll take pics if jbps fine with it

you had better! btw, get before and after vids of exhaust sound pwease :D

oh and PICS & VIDS or BAN! :LOL:

JBP let me know if i can still be in on this deal for the 30% off. i have the money and ready to send if it is still available and if there are other deals let me know?

it ends on the 20th, so your good





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well, my mom fudged up and got to the post office(line was really long and took 4evr) and realized she forgot the address lmao so my money order will go out tomorrow :crosses fingers:

oh thanks, i am also planning on getting one of there stage 3 heads. hopefully by this summer

so are they accepting paypal???

oh thanks, i am also planning on getting one of there stage 3 heads. hopefully by this summer

so are they accepting paypal???

no paypal

i would like to see some dyno graphs of the 31.2 whp gain, does anyone have them?? i wonder what the whp gain would be with the injen intake magnaflow 2.5 racing exhaust and cti downpipe(including the vortex header obviously)

oh thanks, i am also planning on getting one of there stage 3 heads. hopefully by this summer

so are they accepting paypal???

international money order, or a certified check only

So... what makes this such an extra pain in the ass to install? What all do you have to remove to get it hooked up?

Again, if your name is Max Brown please email us!!! info@jbodyperformance.com

So... what makes this such an extra pain in the ass to install? What all do you have to remove to get it hooked up?

It is the size of the header - it is a longtube design that fits in the stock manifold space. So it's very tight.

You have to take the stock manifold and downpipe off. Bolt the downpipe on the new header, then bolt everything back up.

JBP what do I got to do to get one!!!

You have to read the post that says email them with your location for a exact price with shipping, then send and international money order.

Sorry about that. Thanks.

It is the size of the header - it is a longtube design that fits in the stock manifold space. So it's very tight.

You have to take the stock manifold and downpipe off. Bolt the downpipe on the new header, then bolt everything back up.

is there anything else that has to be removed to install? like anything in the way of pulling the stock header down.

just the downpipe. once its removed you can remove the header and put on the vortex and bolt up the dp

It sounds/looks cool and all, but there's no way in hell I'll just mail a business a check and wait.

CTI for me. :D

Im Max Brown and i just emailed....hope nothin is messed up

Be prepared to cut away at some material behind the header. Nothing major, but must be done.

The metal AC line must also be shifted roughly a half inch upwards to avoid contact w/ the header. Again, nothing major, but must be done.

Be prepared to cut away at some material behind the header. Nothing major, but must be done.

The metal AC line must also be shifted roughly a half inch upwards to avoid contact w/ the header. Again, nothing major, but must be done.

are you telling me that? are the headers messed up?

^Pics! Vids! Now!!!

So the best way to put it on is with the header bolted to the downpipe first, and then bolt the header on. This may hve been answered but does it include new gaskets. Thanks guys.

So the best way to put it on is with the header bolted to the downpipe first, and then bolt the header on. This may hve been answered but does it include new gaskets. Thanks guys.

yes it comes with gaskets and bolts

Be prepared to cut away at some material behind the header. Nothing major, but must be done.

The metal AC line must also be shifted roughly a half inch upwards to avoid contact w/ the header. Again, nothing major, but must be done.

care to elberate... what material behind the header?

It makes it easier if you remove some of the firewall insulation. The package comes with header wrap so there wont be any heat issues if you do remove some of the black cloth/heat insulation...

is it all wrapped or just the #2 primary? ... damn that is a tight fit if thats the case... is it worth it to pull the CV axle to gain more room?

i was originally gonna buy the 3 inch cti dp with my vortex header, adn 2.5 exhaust, but i heard from a tuner that i would get more power from a 2.5 inch dp with this set up, and this guy is running with a 2.6 pulley and 60 injectors also

ok, well i got my money order!


so now it should be in the mail tomorrow!

is it all wrapped or just the #2 primary? ... damn that is a tight fit if thats the case... is it worth it to pull the CV axle to gain more room?

From what I have heard from JBP they only provide enough heat-wrap for the number two primary, which is the only one that is close to the firewall.

For install you might want to remove the half-shaft to make it easier...if you you are doing it on your own...

JbodyPerformance Co.
101 Toro Road., Unit #18
Toronto, ON M3J2Z1


is this the correct address to send my payment to?

sad... I never recieved header wrap with mine... :(

oh wells!

good header guys

yea im kinda wonderin what up with mine

1) Guys, there is no header wrap included with the header as it is not needed.
2) There is no need to grind or cut anything anywhere.
3) There shouldn't be any need to remove the firewall insulation, it will fit right infront of it just fine.

Jbp I sent u a pm on using my ups account.

1) Guys, there is no header wrap included with the header as it is not needed.
2) There is no need to grind or cut anything anywhere.
3) There shouldn't be any need to remove the firewall insulation, it will fit right infront of it just fine.

you must have a magical cobalt then

Actually steve, i think they re-designed the header after some of the initial batches were having issues like yours.

so whats the word? has the first batch shipped? i sent an email with no response yet. JBP's website does state that the header comes with wrap for the number 2 primary.

1) Guys, there is no header wrap included with the header as it is not needed.
2) There is no need to grind or cut anything anywhere.
3) There shouldn't be any need to remove the firewall insulation, it will fit right infront of it just fine.

I like the sound of that! Cant wait to get it in and get it on!

Sent another PM to ya JBP

Sent another PM to ya JBP

email them dude youll get a quicker response

email them dude youll get a quicker response


true... emailing us we get back in minutes... PMs, not so fast. :)

ive emailed you twice and havent gotten a response

has mine shipped?????? :)

has mine shipped?????? :)

oh yeah, yours shipped alright....and it came right to my front door :lol: jk i wish :(

has mine shipped?????? :)

email em and if it has theyll give you a tracking number

WOOT WOOT!


...i finally went to the post office, i just got back.



My Payment Has Been Sent!

Noodle header ftmfw! i can haz my noodle header now?

^loser.

...you do realize all iv been trying to do is replace the header of yours that i already took, dont you?

wat?

yeah, iv been running yer noodle for a while, and so now this one i payed for is yours...:lol:

i dont know whats up with the post office, their delivery date is supposed ot be tmrw, but my package hasnt left toronto according to post canada tracking, its 600 km(350-380 miles) away?

i dont know whats up with the post office, their delivery date is supposed ot be tmrw, but my package hasnt left toronto according to post canada tracking, its 600 km(350-380 miles) away?

it probably will get there tomorrow, iv notice that alot of thos tracking things they only show up for like the first 2-3 places, then they stop updating where its at for some reason

i never got a tracking number or anything and mine showed up in like a week and a half.

andrew, since you already have my header, get it dyno'd i want to knwo what power it makes haha.

i want it so bad, but the money order thing just wont work, i need to use paypal, and or credit card :( no noodle header for me, i wanna hear more videos though, i LOVE how it sounds

i dont know whats up with the post office, their delivery date is supposed ot be tmrw, but my package hasnt left toronto according to post canada tracking, its 600 km(350-380 miles) away?

Mine still says it hasn't even left Canada yet. It's been like that since Monday and it doesn't even have a delivery date.

Mine still says it hasn't even left Canada yet. It's been like that since Monday and it doesn't even have a delivery date.


that makes two of us... i google mapped its location and it is 22 hours away drive time... then i saw google has an option for walking routes too... if i walked it would be 19 days and 18 hours away... HAHA check it out :lol:

Guys, all your tracking numbers should be updated tonight. Keep an eye out for the updates.

i have it set to email me whenever an update is made. i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!

just checked the trackign update, my header still hasnt move from toronto, yet the canada post delivery date is today?

ajjaro, you have a pm.

So does anyone from the U.S. Have gotten their headed yet, if so how long did it take?

Where are you guys seeing the delivery date? Mine doesn't have any information about a delivery date.

how come for me, canadapost doesnt work? lol it did the first day and now it wont load

Guys, all your tracking numbers should be updated tonight. Keep an eye out for the updates.

How late are we speaking? As of 7 PM EST, it still stands where it's been for the past three days when I received my tracking number. It's not your fault, it's just pointless to have a tracking number when you can't even view where your product is located.

how come for me, canadapost doesnt work? lol it did the first day and now it wont load

cuz yall lost the super bowl

cuz yall lost the super bowl

well shit, if thats the case i was never/will never get to see canadapost.ca

It's 12:45 AM EST and still no updates as far as tracking goes. :confused:

i just checked at 11:30pm mountain time and there was an update... in three days it moved a total of 17 minutes closer to me... this could take a while...

i wouldn't worry so much guys, over the border stuff takes forever. Mine showed up before it even said it left the initial drop off point.

mine isnt over the border, but it is takign a while for a short trip

just checked and got another update, mine says that it left canada... SWEET!!!

what shipping service is used once in the us?

Are you kidding me? It took four days for the header to leave Canada? Who's hands does it fall in when it's over the border?

i emailed JBP and they said it goes to USPS after canada.

does it continue to have the same tracking number?

im not sure on that one

mine is out of canada!!! cant wait.

same i wanna know where its at in the us now im getting real anxious

alright just e-mail jbp and they said the number stays the same and to use the same site. also yes usps is the one that takes it over

I never heard of someone losing 10HP with the header or any HP whatsoever. The powerband is shifted down-low with our header. I'll get dyno's of Player_1's car and post them, and everyone can check the torque curve and see how they like it. Right now we've moved the shop, I'll have to dig through boxes to find them and scan them. He's pushing around 260hp.

i would like to see those dyno graphs, it would save me time and money, i might dyno my own car too see how much power a vortex header, with 2.5 dp, exhaust and injen intake will yield

I will have dyno numbers from before and after as soon as this thing gets here.

I still don't think my money order has made it to canada yet lol :(

Good Morning!! Just recieved my Super Noodle Header!!!! looks great, thanks JBP!

mine should be here today also, i just saw the post canada truck speeding by!

Should be there, as should be Raptors 67 as he lives in Stoon here as well.

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Does the post office still deliver today? It's President's Day here in the U.S.

nope. mail will not run today in the US

My Status Has Not Been Updated For 3 Days.... I Want To Know Where My Header Is..... Im So Anxious To Know..... Please!!!! Find It For Me Jbp!

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thats because the weekend and presidents day... :thumbsdow

my header is sitting in my bedroom! its nice and polished! thanks JBP!

Yes, Thank you JBP!

Yep I went today for to make the money order hut they were closed at the post office counter. So I'll do it tomorrow JBP. Thanks

JBP = the shit :twothumbs

Guys, there's only 4 days left on the GB! Make sure you get your MOs out to us ASAP!

do you actually feel a diff after installing it? like a noticeably difference? installed headers on my 2.0 gti and didn't really feel a diff thats why I'm asking.

anybody have these on yet??? pics and maybe vids???

do you actually feel a diff after installing it? like a noticeably difference? installed headers on my 2.0 gti and didn't really feel a diff thats why I'm asking.

ill let you know next week, probably monday, killer thug said he saw a huge difference in low end power

does anyone know how this will sound with my stock exhaust and if i'll even have gains?...

Guys, there's only 4 days left on the GB! Make sure you get your MOs out to us ASAP!
I sent mine out last Wednesday, mine should be well on its way! :D

anybody have these on yet??? pics and maybe vids???
this isnt mine, but its another local cobalt that got in on the original gb for these.
http://s537.photobucket.com/albums/ff339/stevenflit/?action=view&current=newmufflersoundresized.flv

ill let you know next week, probably monday, killer thug said he saw a huge difference in low end power
yup, its a longtube, so you should feel the power band shift more to the lowend.

i need a 2.5 downpipe to go with it, i cant find one for under 300$ the cti one is a great price, but its too big, help!

i need a 2.5 downpipe to go with it, i cant find one for under 300$ the cti one is a great price, but its too big, help!

zzp one is pretty cheap

why do you only want 2.5? most of the dp's are 3" but downsize to 2.5 and the end iirc

i have been told by local tuners, one who has 280+whp running a 2.6 that he got more whp after he switched his dp form a 3 to a 2.5 for increased velocity. i heard some bad things about the zzp downpipes...

i have been told by local tuners, one who has 280+whp running a 2.6 that he got more whp after he switched his dp form a 3 to a 2.5 for increased velocity. i heard some bad things about the zzp downpipes...

oic

yeah, ive head bad things bout their dp aswell

you can always hit up your local exhaust shop for a custom dp. probably wouldn't be too expensive

i have been told by local tuners, one who has 280+whp running a 2.6 that he got more whp after he switched his dp form a 3 to a 2.5 for increased velocity. i heard some bad things about the zzp downpipes...

ive had mine for quiet some time and i bought it used and its still in really good condition

oic

yeah, ive head bad things bout their dp aswell

you can always hit up your local exhaust shop for a custom dp. probably wouldn't be too expensive

already did, 500+$

if its custom made they have to weld and everything, so its expensive, should i just get a 3" cti ill probably be over 285 whp with 300+ torque

cool cant wait for mine to get here

it looks good man, they electro polished it, too bad i cant show this piece off its an impress header, much lighter than i thought it would be. tdi are you gonna dyno with just the header in?

ill let you know next week, probably monday, killer thug said he saw a huge difference in low end power

nice!! be sure to let me know!!

No current updates on tracking since last Friday the 13th. I can't wait any longer. The suspense is killing me. Has anyone from the states that got in on the first batch received their header yet?

No current updates on tracking since last Friday the 13th. I can't wait any longer. The suspense is killing me. Has anyone from the states that got in on the first batch received their header yet?

call the post office and see whats going on, mine had no movement either, the post office told me to get jbp to call them, and that same hour, my package had a tracking update

call the post office and see whats going on, mine had no movement either, the post office told me to get jbp to call them, and that same hour, my package had a tracking update

i haven't heard anything on mine either... it is killing me if i at least knew the date it would arrive i'd be okay with that

oic

yeah, ive head bad things bout their dp aswell

you can always hit up your local exhaust shop for a custom dp. probably wouldn't be too expensive

I have there downpipe and it's awesome. The quality in every area is great. And sounds awesome too.

JBP I just sent payment. Thanks.

it looks good man, they electro polished it, too bad i cant show this piece off its an impress header, much lighter than i thought it would be. tdi are you gonna dyno with just the header in?

maybe...im gonna go here soon and see what it is stock and then do the header and downpipe if i get them installed before my ott stage kit gets here and then ill do it after everything is done with as well

i haven't heard anything on mine either... it is killing me if i at least knew the date it would arrive i'd be okay with that

I'd be fine with knowing the date it would arrive as well. I think the main thing it's taking so long is because it's from another country. But still, Toronto is only some 400 miles away from me. It shouldn't be taking this long.

I'd be fine with knowing the date it would arrive as well. I think the main thing it's taking so long is because it's from another country. But still, Toronto is only some 400 miles away from me. It shouldn't be taking this long.

They always hold packages in customs though for some stupid reason.

I'd be fine with knowing the date it would arrive as well. I think the main thing it's taking so long is because it's from another country. But still, Toronto is only some 400 miles away from me. It shouldn't be taking this long.

lol it is 1300 miles away from me how do you think i feell......

yea same here i hope it comes within the week but i kno it wont

damn i was excited to see something in front of my door today but nothing still : /

is there any way to track it once its in the states?

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is there any way to track it once its in the states?

jbp said it is suppose to still be the same tracking number

Jbp!..... I Havent Had A Update In 4 Days...... I Dont Want To Lose This Header I Freaking Want It..... Can You Locate It For Me....

well i tried that and usps has no record of it

The usps doesn't update tracking info until it's been delivered. Calm down everyone.

WOOHOO! my money moder made it! ...now i can has my noodles? :D

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In chinese accent: CHU WON RAMEN?!?

Any updates for anyone today?

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Any updates for anyone today?

Yes

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/Vehicles/JBP_header.jpg

Although I am a bit dissapointed in the packaging. Both gaskets were damaged, but the header looks ok.

yeahhh came home to a nice package on my front step!!! question tho how many bolts and washers are supposed to come with it?

Yes


Although I am a bit dissapointed in the packaging. Both gaskets were damaged, but the header looks ok.

yeah same here man boths gaskets were kinda messy

The coating looks great.

yeahhh came home to a nice package on my front step!!! question tho how many bolts and washers are supposed to come with it?



yeah same here man boths gaskets were kinda messy

PA eh? I'm not too far from you. I wonder if it'll be at my doorstep when I get home from work. I'm excited :D

mine came with a damaged gasket also...

its badly dented

you guys think the gasket is still useable or should we get new ones? and how many of the header bolts did you guys get?

For those in the states that received their header today, did your tracking information update?

For those in the states that received their header today, did your tracking information update?

no mine was not updated yet

Interesting...I'm on my way home from work posting on my iPhone. Can't wait to pull into my driveway. The suspense is killing me. My tracking information hasn't updated yet so there's a possibility it's there.

I'm at home now and it was at my doorstep as I expected. Man that would have been a letdown had it not been there and I would have waited until tomorrow. The header looks flawless. Bolts and washers were included and the gaskets were slightly bent and not as damaged as you guys had stated. I was able to bend them back to their original form.

Thanks JBP for a great product. Hopefully I'll be able to install by this weekend if my local shop is available.

Interesting...I'm on my way home from work posting on my iPhone. Can't wait to pull into my driveway. The suspense is killing me. My tracking information hasn't updated yet so there's a possibility it's there.

I'm at home now and it was at my doorstep as I expected. Man that would have been a letdown had it not been there and I would have waited until tomorrow. The header looks flawless. Bolts and washers were included and the gaskets were slightly bent and not as damaged as you guys had stated. I was able to bend them back to their original form.

Thanks JBP for a great product. Hopefully I'll be able to install by this weekend if my local shop is available.

are you installing it with a dp exhaust? or bolting it to your stock system?

i got mine today and im not even home to play with me noodles!

are you installing it with a dp exhaust? or bolting it to your stock system?

Currently I have the CA V2 Header, XTC 2.5" downpipe, and Megan Catback already installed. I'm swapping my CA V2 Header for the JBP

well i'm glad to hear everyone else got theres today... i'm really hoping for tomorrow... friday at the latest... did i gather information correctly that usps just dropped the box off they didn't require a signiture to deliever the box?

well i'm glad to hear everyone else got theres today... i'm really hoping for tomorrow... friday at the latest... did i gather information correctly that usps just dropped the box off they didn't require a signiture to deliever the box?

More than likely not. USPS doesn't usually have you sign for anything. They just drop it off at your doorstep.

i hope mine comes in tomorrow! dam, why does arizona have to be so far from canada

Mine showed up today... will be putting it on tomorrow.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o239/mavin42/Vehicles/JBP_header.jpg

fap fap fap

haha

i have exhaust and stock dp, its should take another few weeks for my cti dp, is it worth it to install what i have now?

with the vortex header...

i want mine so bad hurry up canadian people!!! lol i guess its customs fault..international mail = fail

rootbeer.......good luck installing it......hahaha ive done that bitch 3 times already.........big headach

rootbeer.......good luck installing it......hahaha ive done that bitch 3 times already.........big headach

yeah, thats what iv been hearing haha

question tho how many bolts and washers are supposed to come with it?


There should be 9 hex bolts and 9 washers with it. The lower center stud and nut are reused to make it easier to hang.

i passed by alocal muffler shop today, they gave me an amazing price, their making me a 3 inch downpipe, installing my vortex header, with the downpipe and the magnflow high flow cat, exhaust... all for 385$ after tax canadian dollars

Okay, I recieved the header but my car is in storage and Raptors also got one, we just finished the install on his.

First, this is no joke, it is easy to put on and we did it with the car on the floor. 2.5hrs total time.

We installed this on his 07 Ion redline. Keep in mind that there is slightly more room on the Cobalt SS, and there is alot of clearance room for the header, nowhere near the firewall, no cutting or wrapping of primaries....GREAT JOB JBP!!

1. As per instructions, remove valve cover to gain extra clearance for hands. Remove the down pipe and exhaust manifold, pretty straight forward.

2. Do not remove the half shaft, not necessary, just slip the header in upside down (downpipe flange up first / head flange facing front of car) pivot it up on the passenger side and up it goes, once past the half shaft, rotate the header into its proper position for the flange to face up.

3. I highly recommend doing this, a little patience required. Keep the studs in the head, Only remove a stud if it interfers in installation, but reinstall after header is on!! Trim a 1/4" off the nut end of the# 2 primary lower stud (this one is directly behind a tube and is the only hard one to do)( almost impossible using the supplied cap bolts) We installed the header with 6 of the nine studs in place!! Then proceeded to install another stud and only used 2 cap bolts. Could have used all 9 but 2 were no good.

4. Install header gasket / NOTE.... before putting header up onto studs, tweak the A/C line that is in a C bend on the firewall, just slightly bend line to go up for clearance... BE CAREFUL!! and GENTLE!!

5. Install header onto studs and start threading on the old lock nuts/ now only put them on for a few threads and continue to install all the other header studs or supplied cap bolts.

6. When all the cap bolts/ studs are installed, tighten down from the center out, this will ensure the header stays even and flat on the mating surface.

7. Install your valve cover and be careful to make sure your ground strap on the driver side stays out from under the valve cover!! I have seen this more times than I want to count!!!

8. Install components, ( the PCV vent hose has two 13mm bolts, acutally one bolt one stud, only the bolt will but used on the passenger side of the valve cover, you will have to get a shorter 13mm for the other bracket as a header tube is too close to install the stud.) Install the O2 sensor and downpipe gaskets, tighten and start the vehicle check for leaks.... After the engine has warmed up, let it cool and go over the bolts to ensure they remained tight after the first heat cycle.

9. Enjoy your new header!!!!

Raptors says it has slightly better throttle response in the midrange and figures there is definetly more power, we will be putting the car on the dyno as soon as is possible. As for sound there is more growl under throttle and the pitch changed slightly but the car is still very quiet.

Keep in mind this car still retains the stock downpipe and catback. With the exhuast completely stock the car was putting just over 260whp down. We will dyno on the same dyno and log the same parameters, meaning IATs will be duplicated (IAT 2 ) when making the pulls. No tuning will take place to have a fair and accurate representation of the headers ability to make gains with just a bolt on application.
Also note that the header is installed on a modified car putting decent power to the ground so gains may not be representative to installation on a stock LSJ... Meaning it should make a bigger difference on a modded car. But gains are gains right..... I will see if we can get the car on the dyno early next week as Raptors is leaving town tomorrow.

Oh, it looks freakin sweet under the hood!!!!

I will put this disclaimer in here: I am an Auto tech and have done alot of performance work over the years, so I found this easy, however I feel anyone can do it, just take your time and take a break if needed. It will be easier after you take that break. Sorry for no pics as this install just seemed to happen out of the blue.

coooool

i passed by alocal muffler shop today, they gave me an amazing price, their making me a 3 inch downpipe, installing my vortex header, with the downpipe and the magnflow high flow cat, exhaust... all for 385$ after tax canadian dollars
wow, that is a good deal man!
Okay, I recieved the header but my car is in storage...
...Sorry for no pics as this install just seemed to happen out of the blue.

nice dude, thanks for the info. :twothumbs

yup, the muffler is a weld-in, im hoping for 15whp

Yeah I wasn't really planning on doing it either but we were slow at the shop so I figured I'd work on it while I helped the few customers that were in that day. The hardest part is just having patience to get all the bolts/studs in because a lot of the primaries are in the way. Has anyone asked for pictures of it installed? I can snap a few if anyone's interested.

please do, and use imagetree or this site to host it. Any and every angle you can get.

ok i just got mine do i need to get header wrap?

I will bring the car in the shop tonight and snap some pics.... ill even take some from underneath if you guys want. I didn't have to use any header wrap on my redline and there should be more clearance on the cobalts so I would say no. I really like the way this thing sounds. I was worried it would be loud and annoying. It's no louder than stock, a little different sound and has a bit of a mean growl too it.

ok i just got mine do i need to get header wrap?

anyone?

thanks for the info rippin07

anyone?

maybe read the post right after your first one there?

No header wrap is needed, there is plenty of clearance.

got mine today and the box was all smashed and trashed despite the fragile sticker... gasket was folded almost completely in half and only got 1 bolt and 1 washer so i e-mailed jbp and they said they'd send new ones out for me asap... AWESOME SERVICE!! cause i know it wasn't there fault!!!

mine was a nice neat box from ups, then i opened it and it was a completely trashed box that the header was in. gaskets ok but i figured it would have came with studs for the downpipe?

install pics or ban lol

Thanks for the +'ve comments... This was a real successful GB and thanks for all of those who participated. This officially ends the GB! (in 30 mins) :)

shit 51 mins late... next time

so the whole steup is on including the header, the car si definetly more powerful, but my fuel economy went down drastically and my new magnaflow high flow cat sounds like my stock cat when it was busted? it buzzes under any acceleration, is that how a high flow cat is supposed to sound like?

hey jbp i sent the money order on tuesday the17. so im still good right?

so the whole steup is on including the header, the car si definetly more powerful, but my fuel economy went down drastically and my new magnaflow high flow cat sounds like my stock cat when it was busted? it buzzes under any acceleration, is that how a high flow cat is supposed to sound like?

...your millage went down cuz you flooring it more now :lol:

...your millage went down cuz you flooring it more now :lol:

nope, i wasnt flooring it , i was crusing at 65 on cruise control i reset my mpg meter, i was only doing 23 mpg at 65?

when i was at 3/4 throttle it would go down to 5

nope, i wasnt flooring it , i was crusing at 65 on cruise control i reset my mpg meter, i was only doing 23 mpg at 65?

when i was at 3/4 throttle it would go down to 5

get your car tuned for the header

im not sure if that would be worth the price, im adding the ottp intake when it comes out, + stage kit and meth by may, i dont really want to pay fot multiple tunes, do youn think its necessary?

no, its not neccessary, but it would help a little bit, i'd say just wait and gat a tune after you have all of it installed

ye thats what i was leaning towards, tell me something, i dont know if you know the answer or not, but is a header downpipe exhaust and intake comparable int power to a stock with only stage 2?

i don't think so, you might gain 30 hp tops i would imagine with those mods

ill have to ask jbp for a copy of those dyno results, 31.2 whp with the vortex header jbp intake and exhaust, (stock downpipe), whats your opinion on that?

well maybe you'll have a lil more than 30hp if theres was on stock dp, but i though they used their dp...

i dont think they did, when the vortex header was advertised to add 31.2 whp, it said next to it with jbp exhaust and intake... it didnt mention downpipe. if they did use it they didnt advertise that.

so my cat buzzing under acceleration is normal for a high flow cat?

um, i dont know(i still have stock exhaust) but i believe that is why a lot of people dont like the zzp dp was cuz it did that

well its not zp, but it is a cheap one, its 180$ 3" stainless steel from a muffler shop, the cat is magnaflow. these guys were a little too cocky for my taste, i todl them they should follow the instruction book for the header, thats the only way it would fit, they said their pros and they dont need it, 3 hours later they call me to tell me this header was designed to be too big for the cobalt and theres no way it would fit, so they had to cut into the fire wall and make some other mods

what site do you use for tracking? canadapost.ca says its not longer in canada anymore as of like the 12th and i still havent gotten it

well its not zp, but it is a cheap one, its 180$ 3" stainless steel from a muffler shop, the cat is magnaflow. these guys were a little too cocky for my taste, i todl them they should follow the instruction book for the header, thats the only way it would fit, they said their pros and they dont need it, 3 hours later they call me to tell me this header was designed to be too big for the cobalt and theres no way it would fit, so they had to cut into the fire wall and make some other mods

that is ridiculous, it will fit without modification.

WHOA!!!!! WTF??? proffesionals my ass!! That header fits with lots of clearance and no mods whatsoever!!! If they cut anything I would be absolutely going wild if I was you!! The redline has less room to the firewall than the cobalt and it has alot of clearance at the rear.

As for the high flow cat, no they do not buzz, especially not a real high flow cat, I have installed probably about 50 of them into custom exhausts and never have we had one buzz.

Your mileage going down is a huge concern, as when raptors comes on here he will tell you that he is finding his mileage has increased slightly and is going on a trip this weekend and will verify if it has or not. I would look to see if they screwed up the location of the primary O2 sensor, do you have a wideband and did they switch that sensor with the primary???? OR you probably are driving it a little more aggressively.

Raptors took pics last night from above and below to post for you guys.

I've got 4 pictures in my control panel, havent taken the time to figure out the whole posting those pics into threads. No leaks and looks great. I can feel a power increase but I dunno if it's worth 31 HP, I know I can feel the difference in torque. I'll let ya know on mileage this weekend.

ill have to have it inspected, maybe magnaflwo gave me a faulty cat because it buzzes like a cracked one

Lol.. Did you give them the downpipe to install or did THEY order the downpipe for you...If they ordered it.. Make sure it IS a magnaflow.. They're not supposed to BUZZ at all.. I don't know why they would cut in your firewall.. I would be ripping some asses, bro.

well its not zp, but it is a cheap one, its 180$ 3" stainless steel from a muffler shop, the cat is magnaflow. these guys were a little too cocky for my taste, i todl them they should follow the instruction book for the header, thats the only way it would fit, they said their pros and they dont need it, 3 hours later they call me to tell me this header was designed to be too big for the cobalt and theres no way it would fit, so they had to cut into the fire wall and make some other mods

this is why you dont go to corporate shops, you go to smaller family owned places.
the corporate shops tend to think they know it all and are some of the cockiest fuckers i've ever seen.
I made that mistake with my old car and will not make it again.

ye im going to on monday, but i need to know all i can so i know what to tell them, they made the downpipe, the cat is magnaflow, so whats the downside to cutting into the firewall, and i think they said theyh wrapped the header...

personally i'd threaten to sue them for making alterations to your car that you did not give consent to.
unless you already signed a paper saying that everything was handy and dandy.

well, the downside is first, it doesnt need to be done!! Second it doesnt need to be done!!! As for the wrap, thats fine if thats what they wanted to do but it doesnt need to be done!! Why dont you take some pics of your install and post everything so that we can see this install and pics of the downpipe they built.

Why dont you just look under you hood???? if they wrapped it you would you see it. How can you not know this??

lol mine was in a tomatoe box and a gm parts box taped together

personally i'd threaten to sue them for making alterations to your car that you did not give consent to.
unless you already signed a paper saying that everything was handy and dandy.

actually he did consent to them cutting the firewall

actually he did consent to them cutting the firewall

he never said that..

i know i took my old car to monroe to get a muffler estimate, i look out in the shop and next thing i know i see sparks flying...i look at the guy in the office and he has the deer in the headlights shitface on and i'm just like if this is over 75 you're going to be sorry...

at that place you consented to the work done after you paid for it and signed the sheet, not prior, any alterations should and must be taken up with the customer before being put into actual action..

oh, yeah nevermind....reading>me

the fuel economy is fine now, it was horrible after the install, i dont know why, you guys will, experience>me. the check engine light is still on, but they are sure they installed the o2 sensor properly

Okay, now that my wallet has had a chance to recover after this group buy, it would sure be nice to see a Downpipe GB on the JBP ones.
How about it JBP? I seen someone had already mentioned it. Any chances?

bowtie32 your header went out yesterday the way we discussed.

ajjaro;
As for cutting the firewall and CEL, you may want to have another shop look into it.
There is no reason to cut the firewall, for this or any other header.
Our header will NOT set a CEL, leading me to believe they have messed up something else on your car.

Thanks JBP. Can't wait so I can also instal my SLP dual exhaust. It's beautiful.

I will have Raptors car on the dyno this week, wed. or thursday night to verify the gains from a bolt on install only as previously discussed. Remember, stock down pipe and cat back still on the car.

bowtie32 your header went out yesterday the way we discussed.

ajjaro;
As for cutting the firewall and CEL, you may want to have another shop look into it.
There is no reason to cut the firewall, for this or any other header.
Our header will NOT set a CEL, leading me to believe they have messed up something else on your car.

thats what i was thinking, i have an appoointment for a check up with another shop in 30 minutes

I will have Raptors car on the dyno this week, wed. or thursday night to verify the gains from a bolt on install only as previously discussed. Remember, stock down pipe and cat back still on the car.

cant wait!

Header is installed. Just got the car back from a local exhaust shop. After having the car gone since early Saturday morning, I can honestly say that this header was well worth the money and wait. The car pulls much harder in the low end and the sound is absolutely similar to a WRX or STi. Even my friend who owns and STi agrees. He's actually quite jealous of my setup.

STI's sound great. And now with cobalts sounding like that people are going to trip.

on my mating surface right next to #4 primary there is a "slit" machined in.... what is this for and please tell me it is suppose to be there!

It's on every header. If you look in the stock headed it's on there too. It's almost like a curve if I'm correct. It's there so you can match up the header to the motor. I think it's on the motor too.

wow weird... almost looks like someone got careless with a router lol

just put the header on tonight only took 2 hours...all i can say is wow about the sound....def right about the sti sound...its perfect tho not to loud at low rpm and sounds great all the way through the gear.

Sound Clliiipppsss

working on it tomorrow didnt wanna piss the new neighbors off just yet

i cant wait for more sound clips :)

i just did a fly by on my friends modded jetta, his words "your car sounds like the god of thunder"


thats with header, downpipe, exhaust

Wow this header sounds amazing, I would love to get one eventually. x1,000,000,000 on the sound clips

Just got the header already. That was quick. Thanks JBP for a great quality header. I look forward into getting my head built by u guys in a few months.

can people post pictures?

ill def be posting pics and vids when i get mine in a few weeks, hopefully there will be sum pics/vids up before then

On for just over a week.... using stock downpipe and exhaust. 2007 Redline.


http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190050.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190048.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190047.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190046.jpg
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On for just over a week.... using stock downpipe and exhaust. 2007 Redline.


http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190050.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190048.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190047.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190046.jpg
http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/1/8/p2190045.jpg

vidz?

vids of what? It's -30 celcius here today and it snowed half a foot.... so a vid driving around is going to be pretty useless.

vids of what? It's -30 celcius here today and it snowed half a foot.... so a vid driving around is going to be pretty useless.

did you install yourself?

i will put vids up tonight