I hate that Motor Trend and Car and Driver and the like are always bashing on the Cobalt. I wins against anything against it in it's price range (usually hands down) and it will lose out on the comparison usually over cheap interior plastics or looks like a rental or lousy design both interior and exterior comments.

Listen, I'll admit that the Cobalt could go for somewhat of a facelift, but when was the last time you could get a car that pulled the times and performance that the Cobalt SS does for 20k? When was the last time you saw a new car for 20k with leather wrapped dash?! It just seems like the people in these magazines will bash on a domestic 4 cyl. no matter what. This months Motor Trend said that it even beat out the MS3 and the title asked if the Cobalt even belonged in the comparison! It just pisses me off. When are they going to give credit where credit is due?

 

This car gets no Mag time!

 

lol i wish the cobalt had its own mag for parts and ****

 

in the new motor trend they talked about it very highly, minus the interior, but they have to use the same grading criteria its only fair. some people like to have nice interior, some would rather go fast

 

bottom line = for the money you cannot beat this car. Let the haters hate, but I love my cobalt ss/sc

 

Well honestly the interior is not nearly as good as say the GTI or the Subaru WRX. And the exterior of the car screams "rental car", because you take a regular 4 door Cobalt and put it beside a SS Cobalt 4 door and what differences are there? Rims, grill, exhaust tip....and that is about it. Can't blame the mags for saying the truth.

Now don't get me wrong here.......I really like my SS S/C, there is not much out there in this price range that can take on my car. And there are other cars that are a lot more expensive that the S/C and T/C would spank on the track.

 

2005.

 

Interior is junk compared to the WRX/MS3/GTI......Alot of people like having decent power/good mpg and comfort with quality, the Cobalt does not offer the last thing i said, most domestic 4 cylinders dont offer this. The u.s. is on a POWER TRIP like always with their cars, they think bigger is always better when its not. **** i would take a new civic SI over my redline or cobalt ss/tc anyday cause the car is built well, quick and has a good standing history.

 

Our cobalt kill the competition if they don't want to admit that e should make something plublically and diss there magazine or something lol we should make a magazine how the cobalts are like the corvette its the cheapest and best performance out there and the realibility is better than any other company

 

Uhhh the cobalt is far from reliable..........SS/TC owners are already having problems. It looks like GM slapped these cars together with some plastic and super glue, lol

 

x2 agreed.

I have had very little problems with my car, but I have read of many others having issues. And GM is not a lot more reliable then other companies. If they were they would be selling a lot more cars.

 

Agreed as well! Alot of redline owners have problems too.... and GM would be selling more if they built good reliable cars these days with the way the economy is.

 

Really? Thread number 4,327 on complaining about C&D or Motor Trend. No self respecting magazine will put a car at #1 if it isn't an all around good package. People need to accept this.

It has good performance, but an interior made from bits of rubbermaid bins. That's fine for most people, but you would never vote on a Miss America with a snaggle tooth. I'm not saying it's ugly, because it's not, but it doesn't offer the refinement of other cars in it's class. Not everyone is interested strictly in performance, especially review mags.

 

Now that is some funny crap!

 

my cars an 05 and i have no warranty and have spent 0$ on repairs or anything, only brake pads and oil changes.

 

Hmm, a car that has power front windows, manual rears, and a road stance that would make an suv going 80 on an off ramp look sturdy, no thanks, spells fail to me.


FACT: GM has been hated on for a long time now, it's not any new revelation. Look at the cavalier for example, which I'm sure many of you once had, or atleast a j-body of some form. Those ******* last 100, 200k, very fuel efficient, and once you reach the upper echelons of the respective models, for example Cavalier LSS Sport, you have a top notch vehicle from performance to economics. Fact is, the haters will hate just because they hate GM and hate to see GM succeed and surpass what their imports can do and even other American made cars can do. If you truly know your stuff, you'll just laugh and know that you got the better buy. I find it funny how the only bad thing people can think of to say about my car (Ion Redline) is that it's made out of plastic and the interior is the cheapest thing ever.
While I'll agree, my dash and stuff isn't top of the line, but it's not like it's just falling apart or anything, and well, lets just say the rest of the interior is ballin (RECAROS FTMFW). As for the plastic comments? Who gives a ****? LOL.
People will hate on whoever is doing it better than them, which most cases is GM, sorry for their ignorance, I'll take my 10k, 200hp stock, recaro seated, ecotec, tupperware over anything else in the category anyday, when it comes down to it, nothing beats the price and what you get for that price. /thread.

 

straight up dude. i had a non z24 cavalier before the balt. i drove the **** out of it and i sold it at 250k. the only real thing i had to do with it in 6 years was a clutch at 220k.

i see what these mags are saying. i'm just tired of hearing it. like someone said that this month motor trend bragged on the ss a lot and they did, but not before saying: "GTI, check. MS3, of course, WRX, sure, CobaltSS, are you sure you should be here?" that's freaking insulting. i'm glad they gave props and i'm glad they brought up that they can't steer in a partking lot worth a darn cuz they can't. at least that actually matters. my Cobalt has what i concider to be a nice interior. stock leather, heated seats, the silver accents that seem to be a trend with every motor compant on the planet right now, etc. i just wish they'd drop it. i haven't been in the MS3, GTI or WRX, but i'm willing to bet they all have plastic dash boards and door panels.

 

I actually do like the sti's interiors, very well built, unlike the evos lol. talk to anyone whos owned both and they'll tell you the same. but who cares, as long as it's not falling apart or cracking **** what it looks like, when I want luxury AND speed, I'll look up a caddy cstv, but for now, uhmmm lsj please. .

 

dude i think the tc will help with the respect issue...they are nasty and give it a few months with some serious companies tuning the turbo balt and we will be on the map as serious contenders.

 

yep ^^

 

i just wish these writers would figure in for plastic dashboards when it comes to comparing sports cars from 20-25k. rate them for what they're supposed to do. motor trend rated the GTI on top, good car, but slowest out of the top 4 and had freaking plaid seats!!! that's just gross. they admitted that the cobalt's cabin was easy to manage with all of the controls and stuff. i would see their point if they were rating sport luxury or durability tests. the only true thing they had going on the cobalt is it's steering radius sucks. because it really does.

 

i don't believe any of what the car mags say. go on the a forum where the ACTUAL OWNERS are and read thats where you will get the opinions... like me i drove a dodge for my first car and a ford for my second. i hated both. this is my 3rd car. and holy **** i love the pull of the s/c, i looooove my interior def, the stereo, the recaro's my gun metal 18's, i love the fuel econom, cheap to fill up thanks to the 13 gal tank i believe. performance wise, glued to the ground, tranny is strong as ****, NOOOO mechanical problems WHAT-SO-EVER. Theirs plenty of room in the trunk, a small entry but who gives a **** just manuever whatever your putting in. i actually got 2 of my friends in the trunk just to see if they would fit. one of them is 5'11 the other is 5'9 both average weight. like seriously if they can find something to whine about on this car other than the s/c your a ******* idiot and you should go buy a benz or something if you want to fit 15 suitcases in the trunk ******** lol

 

Yeah, because car forums are full of unbiased opinions like this one.

 

If I need my mag love, I just reread R&T's 'A Time for Turbos'.

Three things to remember:

Part of the Cobalt's performance is because it's one of the lightest cars in it's class. The fastest way to make a door sound like it's closing with more vault-like rigidity is to add another 50lbs of dampening pad to it. It really does add weight to add luxuriousness. It's usually more expensive to lose weight than to add power once you get past simple things like throwing the seats out. An extreme comparison would be the interior of a Lotus.

Because of the fun I've had in my SS- I'm going to try my hand at some simple autocross type racing. When I started looking into this and reading SCCA for sale boards, I was stunned. It appears Mini Coopers and SS's are the real deal. Those are the 2 cars people are putting the money into prepping, etc. for FWD cars at least.

Finally, using anecdotes on the boards as some sort of proof that SS's are unreliable is pretty bad logic. I can go to the boards of any car popular enough to have their own forums and read problems post.

So drive it like you stole it while not endangering anyone else's life and enjoy it. It's a good car.

 

Thank you. Find a honda with 200k on it that hasn't had work done. Cars need maintenance and help along the way. But most 4 cyl cars can get to the magical 200k with ease.