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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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YOUR opinion on lightweight rims and performance

Hello all,

What are your opinions concerning the benefit of lightweight rims on performance in general?

For example, lets say you have a 17" rim that weighs 14lbs. I also guess the average 17" to weight anywhere from 19-22lbs. I could be very wrong tho.

Anyway do you think this would make a noticable difference on performance? Like what do you think would be affected? Acceleration, cornering, braking etc.

Would the rims be more delicate as well? Input appreciated!
(I just ordered a set of KONIG Daylite rims. They are 17" and 14lbs a piece. )
(Edit: What i had before were stock 15" steelies on conti tires and now im getting lexani n3000's on these rims so im hoping handling will be improved a lot!)
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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wow those konig daylite rims are nice!

do they come in 5x110 in 17"?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:10 AM
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Thanks man, i got the black ones with the yellow lip since my car is black.

I just checked for you and they come in 5/100 and 5/114? Dunno if those fit?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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nope no 5x110 but you could convert to 5x114 they come in tha
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearblock
Thanks man, i got the black ones with the yellow lip since my car is black.

I just checked for you and they come in 5/100 and 5/114? Dunno if those fit?
unfortunately not...

but a 5x100 is possible to redrill to a 5x110

I'm interested in finding that rim in that color but w/ a red lip.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:12 AM
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i gotta have a set now. damn you gearblock. they are sweet looking
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearblock
Hello all,

What are your opinions concerning the benefit of lightweight rims on performance in general?

For example, lets say you have a 17" rim that weighs 14lbs. I also guess the average 17" to weight anywhere from 19-22lbs. I could be very wrong tho.

Anyway do you think this would make a noticable difference on performance? Like what do you think would be affected? Acceleration, cornering, braking etc.

Would the rims be more delicate as well? Input appreciated!
(I just ordered a set of KONIG Daylite rims. They are 17" and 14lbs a piece. )
(Edit: What i had before were stock 15" steelies on conti tires and now im getting lexani n3000's on these rims so im hoping handling will be improved a lot!)
those 17's are some heavy wheels. these 18's wheigh 13.7 lbs.

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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:21 AM
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blah... just went thru 15 different wheel companies and found squat...

OZ is the only one making the lightest 5x110 in 17x8... 16.2 lbs
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
unfortunately not...

but a 5x100 is possible to redrill to a 5x110

I'm interested in finding that rim in that color but w/ a red lip.
Then check out KONIG Zero was gonna get those but wanted to try the black/yellow theme. Dont think they r lightweight tho...

KONIG have a whole bunch of sweet ass rims IMO!
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Back to the actual topic of the thread, lol...

The laws of phyics are never wrong, and they say a lighter wheel is better. That's that.

What it should improve? Acceleration. And by acceleration, I mean the definition in your physics book, not the 1/4 mile, lol. In the world of a car accelerating (in the "trditional" sense), braking, and cornering, that means it improves EVERYTHING.
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Konig bump wheels are available in 17x7 with a 5x110 bolt pattern. Discounttiredirect.com has them. They come in silver w/blue accent and black w/red accent.
http://www.tunerzine.com/news/163/1.jpg
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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how much those konig bump wgeeks weigh?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Now a 17x7 is okay, LOL. They probably cost almost as much as the wheels in the other thread and weigh at least 6 lbs more each.

Nobody else is going to post about what this thread is actually about?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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click HERE to see a list of wheel weights.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBrother
Now a 17x7 is okay, LOL. They probably cost almost as much as the wheels in the other thread and weigh at least 6 lbs more each.

Nobody else is going to post about what this thread is actually about?
Lol i guess not... my thread failed. they always do! but thanks for your share. i guess i gotta wait and see!
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Unsprung weight (Wheels, tires, suspension components) has, proportionally, a much larger effect on vehicle performance than sprung weight. A 10lb reduction in unsprung weight will show as a greater difference in vehicle dynamics than a 10lb reduction in sprung weight. The rotational mass of the wheel is also a factor. A set of heavy wheels will slow you down more if they're mounted on the car than if they're in the trunk. So, yes, lighter wheels will produce a gain in performance but I've never been able to compare one set to another on the same car so I say if you'll notice anything though. They'll be a bit more fragile, but anything nasty enough to wreck an aftermarket wheel you would normally avoid anyway so there's no sense worrying about that.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:35 PM
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Actually, if they're the same alloy, a light forged wheel is a lot stronger than a cheaply cast heavy one. :shrug:

I've compared them on the same car, numerous wheels on numerous cars. Acceleration and braking are affected, but people look for a different kind of improvement in those areas, lol. Steering feel - now THAT'S night and day. On the '94 MX-6 LS V6 I autocrossed for a while in G-Stock, sometimes on a particular surface at an event that didn't matter much, we'd start on the street wheels (18x8 RX-8 wheels, roughly 23 lbs each, with 225/45/18 high performance summer tires that weighed another 25 lbs each) and switch to the race wheels (16x8 FD wheels, 16 lbs each with Hoosier R-comps that weighed about 19 lbs each) and nevermind the extra grip of the slick - steering effort and turn-in were like completely different cars. Like going from the Titanic to a Jet Ski. We mounted indentical rubber on each once and ran them back to back in Wendover just to see the real difference - it was eye-opening to say the least. Almost half a second on a 50 second course, just in improved feel and stability. And the difference in brake rotor temp was almost 25 degrees after a run. Granted, that was a drastic difference vs just dropping 5 or 8 lbs from a stock wheel of the same size; but still - it makes one rethink buying big heavy pretty wheels if you like the drive the car, even on the street!
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Heck yeah lighter wheels make a difference in performance! Just go ask anybody in honda scene who knows their stuff. They'll tell you for sure.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven Flit
how much those konig bump wgeeks weigh?
18.6lbs.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Lighter wheel/tire combos will absolutely improve performance, it will be easier for the car to accelerate, turn and stop, the suspension will work better, the car may ride better, your tires may last longer. fuel economy may go up, etc, etc......

Only problem i see is that Nexen tires are pretty much junk, and quite a bit heavier than a tire from a bigger name company (Goodyear, Yokohama, BGF, Conti, etc....) As a side note, Id be skeptical of super lightweight cast wheels.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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Ive never heard of a super lightweight cast wheel, lol. If there is such a thing - yeah, I'd be more than a little but skeptical, lol.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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Ive never heard of a super lightweight cast wheel, lol. If there is such a thing - yeah, I'd be more than a little but skeptical, lol.
rotas
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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real friends don't let friends buy rotas.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by DC52NV
real friends don't let friends buy rotas.
true story.... ive seen 2 many break
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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http://centerlinewheels.com/sub_wheel.php?mw_id=36

Storms in 18x7 powdercoated black...mmmmm. 17x7 wieghts 15lbs. So maybe 16-17lbs for the 18x7. I blieve they are around 250 a piece.
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