finnaly got my car dynoed today i have a trifecta tune and dejon cai they did 3 pulls first pull was 275hp 320 tq 2nd pull was 273hp 318 tq 3rd pull was 270hp 312 tq and they said they were surprised my af was a straight line all 3 pulls it was right at 11 i guess thats good no idea what that means haha if i knew how to post a pic of the chart i would lol my buddys 06 ss was 213 211 210 hp his af was at 19 the whole time my buddys tb/ss was 319,312,302

 

11.0 AFR are they mad!!! THat is horribly rich!

I run about a 13.0 on mine and made more than that on a stock car on a shitty warm humid day!

LEAN THAT **** OUT! THey run 14.0 stock

 

11.0 is to rich for a DI turbo car.

 

lol ok thanks for the info how do i lean it more i have no idea what that even means lol i know what rich and lean mean but can i change that or what???????????????

 

Well on HPTuners you change the fueling PE tables or (Lambda) 1.00 basically equals 14.0 AFR!

Most have found that .85 lambda is a good point, I still found it a bit rich my car had more in it than that! So I ran leaner than that even!

 

You want around a ~12.8 A/F...

No wonder why your numbers look LOW...Lean it out, you will gain another 15+ HP...

Just a tune on the LNF with an intake should get you close to the 300 HP mark (with a good tune)

 

well the guy that dynoed it runs hp tunners should i have them go in and change sum stuff or should i contact vince at trifecta and talk to him?? or just go with hp tuners?

 

I pulled 307 and 339 with just a drop in filter and my own tune!

It's up to you but as a tuner I would rather me myself do the changes than someone else, but that is up to vince at trifecta!

But yeah you need to be leaned out!

 

Go with HP tuners.

IMO:

If you dont have access to a dyno a "canned" tune will be better than nothing

If you have access to a dyno and a tuner, get HP Tuners. (better choice)

 

i got a dyno 25 min from my house and they tune with hp tuners

 

You have a pm!

 

Then why did you get "trifecta tune"?

IMO if they are a good tuner, get the HP tuner software...

 

Yeah, I'm lost too. Was it Trifecta or "other guys" tune!

 

Going with Trifecta when you have a local tuner is just a horrible idea. Dyno or street tune >>>>>>>>>>>> canned tune.

 

Custom > Canned ALWAYS!

 

Yes! BUT some dont have a local dyno, or worse yet, a GOOD tuner...

 

Very true

 

I have the trifecta tune as well, I have been talking to people with the tune and they all are noticing large amounts of soot build up on there car that indicates running rich. I think that vince needs to fix this problem because my car runs hard core rich as well. I dont have any tuning experiance and dont have a good tuner, however I do have a dyno near by.

 

I'm sure they are all rich then.....

 

That would make me worry. I know of many members that were running rich and burned up their resonator in their exhaust system... (at least that is what they concluded to be the problem)

 

I would also like to see their injector ms logs..... 5.8 ms seems to be the point of no return and I hit that from time to time as lean as I am!

 

what is the injector ms logs? and I know rich is safer, but is to rich just as bad as to lean?

 

your D/I injector pulse width timing.... to high and the D/I looses all effeciency!

 

I emailed vince and told him this and asked him to give me the info so we can find out.

 

I think people get confused sometimes just because there is black soot doesn't mean it is rich. all of our cars stock did the same thing. Remember to rich or to lean will not burn the right amount of fuel which will not burn it all creating an incomplete combustion cycle. Vince knows what he is doing and not a single person has had problems with this tune, talk to vince before listening to most of the guys