On-board TPMS - accurate?
On-board TPMS - accurate?
I went to check my tire pressure as part of my own post-delivery inspection. They were 32.5 psi all around according to my Campbell Hausfeld digital gauge. My Michelin Digital gauge read 32 psi all around except for 1 tire (not the right rear). The on-board TPMS said every tire was at 31 psi except for the right rear which was 32 psi. WTF?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
I went to check my tire pressure as part of my own post-delivery inspection. They were 32.5 psi all around according to my Campbell Hausfeld digital gauge. My Michelin Digital gauge read 32 psi all around except for 1 tire (not the right rear). The on-board TPMS said every tire was at 31 psi except for the right rear which was 32 psi. WTF?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
The ideal gas law PV = nRT explains that pressure increases as temperature increases. Tires increase in temperature from the flexing of the sidewall, absorption of solar radiation, and friction from road surfaces.
It is a great system and that will alert you when there is a problem. Saves the driver the time of walking around the vehicle and inspecting all 4 tires visually and checking the pressures with a gauge at least once a week like a good driver should.
hey i learned about that in physics last semester... cool!
Sounds like your tires where rotated. There is a procedure in the manual so the computer can relearn which sensor is in each location...
Mine has been off by a few pounds since day one. I use a manual Tire pressure thing once in a while just to be sure they're ok. My RF one reads WAY low. My RR one reads Way high. Both of my Left side ones are high by like a pound or 2. Sometimes old technology just works better I suppose. I also noticed that when I first start my car they will all be WAY high then by the time I drive 30 miles to work they will be down from the first start by like 4 pounds each tire. I just gave up on the onboard TPMS.
Last edited by Sweetsandman; May 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM. Reason: spelling
I went to check my tire pressure as part of my own post-delivery inspection. They were 32.5 psi all around according to my Campbell Hausfeld digital gauge. My Michelin Digital gauge read 32 psi all around except for 1 tire (not the right rear). The on-board TPMS said every tire was at 31 psi except for the right rear which was 32 psi. WTF?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
So I fill up all the tires to 33.0 psi according to my CH gauge. Now my TPMS says all the tires are 32 psi, except the left front is 31 psi. I fill up that tire to 34.0 psi (according to CH gauge) to get the TPMS to show 32 psi.
I hope I didn't confuse anyone, but basically I noticed a significant discrepancy between the on-board TPMS and my handheld gauge. You could argue the handheld gauge is not precise, but it should be consistent. I can get the same reading over and over, so it at least has some precision. In terms of accuracy, that is up for debate but the on-board TPMS doesn't appear reliable. It is off by +/- 2-3 psi at least on my 09 SS/TC.
Any ideas or observations?
I believe I read here that the TPMS don't work well until the tire is in motion. I don't know the explanation behind why, but that's just what I heard here.
What I DO know is that the tire should warm up as you drive, thus increasing the tire pressure. This is a very well documented occurrence. For chassis dynamometer testing, a lot of drivability/calibration tests have a warmup procedure that they run in order to get the tires to operating temperature (increase temperature, increase pressure for a fixed volume).
IMO, if the TPMS is within a few PSI, that's good enough. Like I said, pressure varies anyway. If you're within 1 PSI that's as good as you can expect until you get some sort of higher precision, higher $$$ sensors (which is completely unnecessary).
What I DO know is that the tire should warm up as you drive, thus increasing the tire pressure. This is a very well documented occurrence. For chassis dynamometer testing, a lot of drivability/calibration tests have a warmup procedure that they run in order to get the tires to operating temperature (increase temperature, increase pressure for a fixed volume).
IMO, if the TPMS is within a few PSI, that's good enough. Like I said, pressure varies anyway. If you're within 1 PSI that's as good as you can expect until you get some sort of higher precision, higher $$$ sensors (which is completely unnecessary).
I believe I read here that the TPMS don't work well until the tire is in motion. I don't know the explanation behind why, but that's just what I heard here.
What I DO know is that the tire should warm up as you drive, thus increasing the tire pressure. This is a very well documented occurrence. For chassis dynamometer testing, a lot of drivability/calibration tests have a warmup procedure that they run in order to get the tires to operating temperature (increase temperature, increase pressure for a fixed volume).
IMO, if the TPMS is within a few PSI, that's good enough. Like I said, pressure varies anyway. If you're within 1 PSI that's as good as you can expect until you get some sort of higher precision, higher $$$ sensors (which is completely unnecessary).
What I DO know is that the tire should warm up as you drive, thus increasing the tire pressure. This is a very well documented occurrence. For chassis dynamometer testing, a lot of drivability/calibration tests have a warmup procedure that they run in order to get the tires to operating temperature (increase temperature, increase pressure for a fixed volume).
IMO, if the TPMS is within a few PSI, that's good enough. Like I said, pressure varies anyway. If you're within 1 PSI that's as good as you can expect until you get some sort of higher precision, higher $$$ sensors (which is completely unnecessary).
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