We just Laser cut some exhaust flanges for the 2.0 & 2.2. I hear rumors that a very large order of factory longblocks has been placed. It seems that we are gearing up for something pretty big. For those that don't know who "Banks" is, let's just say that Turbos are on the menu.

http://we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMTIyNDM4NzZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx

http://we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/i=wMTIyNDM4ODZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx

Hmm I see. :)

who is Banks?

who is Banks?


Think diesel..............

holy crap banks is gonna unleash hell

holy crap banks is gonna unleash hell

Are you saying you think banks is gonna come out with some kind of ecotec deisel conversion or something? Or just a turbo kit?

A Banks Turbo is going to OWN. The procession of the kicking of balls, Has commenced.

^^word

Are you saying you think banks is gonna come out with some kind of ecotec deisel conversion or something? Or just a turbo kit?


No, I was just giving a hint of who we are and what we are known for. To answer your question though there will be quite a bit more than just turbo kits available. :twothumbs

*tease* ;)

Fuckin' A Baby!

Crawl out from under your rock man... Banks is a huge company known for their diesel products mainly for trucks and diesel SUVs. Big turbos big intercoolers very very big exhausts (5 inches turbo back) great stuff.

Banks has a 600+ HP Dodge Deisel That runs the SALT FLATS...

is this gonna be for the 2.4 as well?

is this gonna be for the 2.4 as well?


More than likely, but only time will tell. ;)

wtf... why not just tell us when it was done, now you got our hopes up

well a nice kit will stop all of the 2.4 guys from dumping their cars we are losing hope with all these empty promises, the 2.2 are getting more attention for some reason

Those pics above look like a 2.4 to me. But I slept with my contacts in and just woke up, lol.

Those pics above look like a 2.4 to me. But I slept with my contacts in and just woke up, lol.


You are correct. There are two sitting there one is a 2.2 the other is a 2.4

Keep us updated! this might be competition for Hahn :)

I am so about to dump this shitty 2.4... It is fast but just can't keep up with the SS/SC or the SRT-4. God it is so annoying. Also, how much and what is available in the way of upgrading the tranny to hold a turbo?

Haha, got another potential switcher.

Keep us updated! this might be competition for Hahn :)

Bill Jr. makes some great products but we will be taking this project a few steps farther.

I am so about to dump this shitty 2.4... It is fast but just can't keep up with the SS/SC or the SRT-4. God it is so annoying. Also, how much and what is available in the way of upgrading the tranny to hold a turbo?

More than likely we will just be offering engine components. Has anyone broke a tranny yet?

no one broke a 2.4 tranny yet becuz we have no huge power adders yet but im sure it can hold 250 hp fine, and how much further than hahn will you be taking this>?

Heh, my tranny works but where is Banks located? If they want a test car I will drive it up to 300 miles, maybe further. And maybe if you guys are nice enough, I could get a rental or borrow a car too! ^^ if not I will provide my own transportation...

Shouldn't those flanges be port matches? They look like someone cut them just guessing what the sizes were.

Heh, my tranny works but where is Banks located? If they want a test car I will drive it up to 300 miles, maybe further. And maybe if you guys are nice enough, I could get a rental or borrow a car too! ^^ if not I will provide my own transportation...

Southern California, we have an employee with an Ion Redline already and more than likely I would get a Cobalt should they need one. Most of the devlopment that will happen early on is just going to be engine based not vehicle.

Shouldn't those flanges be port matches? They look like someone cut them just guessing what the sizes were.

Good eye, actually the flange pictured was cut for the 2.0 head so it doesn't match up on the 2.4 very well.

no one broke a 2.4 tranny yet becuz we have no huge power adders yet but im sure it can hold 250 hp fine, and how much further than hahn will you be taking this>?

I can't answer that just yet but this should give you an idea.

5 rows of 5
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/slow4dr/2Gneonshifter004.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/slow4dr/2Gneonshifter005.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e260/slow4dr/2Gneonshifter006.jpg

That is some serious cash for one, lol.

Holy jesus i'd like to see the bill for that one... :-O

wow, so you are talking turbo charged crate engines, nice.

crate engines or plan on breaking a couple in testing lol nice it see more stuff for my little 2.2

oh my god!

man i dont think theree were that many engines at my dealership:red:

He's also said something about there being another 25 engines on the way. So they will have something over 50 engines to test/break during the development of whatever they are planning.

Should be nice to see what kind of performance upgrades are going to be available for these cars. Of course, for the 2.0L owners, getting rid of the supercharger and replacing it with a Banks turbo (if that is actually what it is) will probably end up costing quite a bit of coin.

This will probably be a more viable purchase option for those currently with a 2.2L or 2.4L engine.

gimme some 2.4 rods and pistons please ;)

I'll be happy with some low compression pistons and I'll be fine.

The kit should use the turbo off of a Cummins diesel, that would be awesome...

The kit should use the turbo off of a Cummins diesel, that would be awesome...


There are more well suited turbos on the market for small displacement engines.

gimme some 2.4 rods and pistons please ;)

:beer: Let's hope so.

SO any updates on this?

Later

everything he is saying and what the pics tell and banks history tells me tranny cooler tourqe convertor along with a tru t5 trim turbo setup (probally 50 mm 55mm)probally running 10 psi boost safe and im sure there wil be injectors to go with to and some forged pistons rods etc and im syre they will have a basic setup avalaible to save money as well just like the intense stage kits but its looking positive

i would guess... just looking at how the rest of the market does this sort of thing...

kit A low boost 6-8lbs, perhaps somewhere in the 190-210hp range full bolt on.

kit B more boost, with a lot more crazy internal work done and a lot of broken clutches.

The 2.2 is scheduled to go on the engine dyno soon, so I will report back with any pertenant information after that.

At this time there are no definite plans as far as "kits" or "engines" but you guys can expect anything but basic.

-J

well since hahn thinks that they wont offer turbo kits fr the auto 2.4 ss maybe you could help us in that dept.?

Just when I think I will go to start generating HP I decide to wait it out a little while longer.....LOL....Just to see what else better is coming along.

well since hahn thinks that they wont offer turbo kits fr the auto 2.4 ss maybe you could help us in that dept.?


It's tough to say just yet, but some of the decision makers are keeping an eye on this thread.

yeah i have all the money saved up right now and i just need a kit to spend the money on. i just hate how the 5 speeds are always catered to 1st. automatics are fast too with the right parts and i have the money to buy a kit, who else here does? i wanted to be turboed by now.

Forged pistons are a must for us 2.4's its really the main thing thats holdling us back. Maybe a 8.5:1 or 9:1 compression too :).

:twothumbs I wish i had a bigger superchrger for my 2.0 think banks could help:twothumbs

heres what i wrote them:

I am very dissapointed to hear that you are only
working with the 2.2 liter and 2.0 liter cobalts. i
have the SS 2.4 liter cobalt and i have been waiting
for a turbo kit ever since i bought it i have the
money just sitting here. I am also very dissapointed
that ive heard you will not be offering the turbo kits
for the automatic cobalts which is what i have, im
sure there is a way to make it work so that both stick
and auto can enjoy turbo power.

they wrote:

We are actually working on a system for the 2.4, however, we are not
offering kits for the automatics at this time. As GM releases upgrades
to the autotrans that will withstand the power we may reconsider this.
The 2.2 and 2.0 Kits will be released first, then the 2.4. All should
be available by the end of the year.

now i'm pissed cuz i wanted to be turboed this summer so bad and they screwed the autos over. if the auto cavaliers and sunfires could be turboed and tranny hold the power then im sure the cobalt can as it should have better parts anyway. i might have to get a new car if you guys dont come thru with something for us auto's. we are enthusuests too and dont deserve to be shafted when it comes to us wanting more power.

heres what i wrote them:

I am very dissapointed to hear that you are only
working with the 2.2 liter and 2.0 liter cobalts. i
have the SS 2.4 liter cobalt and i have been waiting
for a turbo kit ever since i bought it i have the
money just sitting here. I am also very dissapointed
that ive heard you will not be offering the turbo kits
for the automatic cobalts which is what i have, im
sure there is a way to make it work so that both stick
and auto can enjoy turbo power.

they wrote:

We are actually working on a system for the 2.4, however, we are not
offering kits for the automatics at this time. As GM releases upgrades
to the autotrans that will withstand the power we may reconsider this.
The 2.2 and 2.0 Kits will be released first, then the 2.4. All should
be available by the end of the year.

now i'm pissed cuz i wanted to be turboed this summer so bad and they screwed the autos over. if the auto cavaliers and sunfires could be turboed and tranny hold the power then im sure the cobalt can as it should have better parts anyway. i might have to get a new car if you guys dont come thru with something for us auto's. we are enthusuests too and dont deserve to be shafted when it comes to us wanting more power.
'

turbo for the 2.0? replacement of SC or twin-charged setup?

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turbo for the 2.0? replacement of SC or twin-charged setup?

I am guessing replacement, because the twin-charged setup would not be beneficial for the price. Would be almost same results as without the turbo. I might be wrong though.

no this is in regards to the 2.4 ss automatic

no this is in regards to the 2.4 ss automatic


your letter you just wrong said the 2.2 and 2.0 will see kits first.. thats why i asked what the setup was on the 2.0

Here is what I know. I have seen these prototype cars in person at Hahns shop.

The LSJ kit is a twin charger kit. It is basically done, they are just tweaking it.

The L61 kit will work on both the Manual and Automatic cars.

The 2.4 VVT kit they have is for the Solstice and it is already in production. I don't know anything about any plans to make any kit for the 2.4 VVT Cobalt. That doesn't mean that there are no plans, I just don't know of any.

Here is what I know. I have seen these prototype cars in person at Hahns shop.

The LSJ kit is a twin charger kit. It is basically done, they are just tweaking it.

The L61 kit will work on both the Manual and Automatic cars.

The 2.4 VVT kit they have is for the Solstice and it is already in production. I don't know anything about any plans to make any kit for the 2.4 VVT Cobalt. That doesn't mean that there are no plans, I just don't know of any.

if the l61 kit works on auto then i bet i can get the 2.4 kit to work on auto

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I am so about to dump this shitty 2.4... It is fast but just can't keep up with the SS/SC or the SRT-4.

does this honestly come as a surprise to you???


The 2.4L is great--it can beat anything in its class (Mazda 3, Focus ST, Ralliart, Scion TC) but don't expect to beat faster cars, like an SRT-4 with it