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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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This is why some vendors just dont get how ridiculous they can become!!!

Ok, I am sooo tired of receiving emails from Zooomer at ZZP. This is ridiculous to say the least. I am copying/pasting his last email to me. You think they will EVER get/want my business again????

As promised, another update.

1. The daily driven 2.4 has made more than 10 passes and has not broken.

2. It just ran 11's and is the first to do so. LNF, LSJ or LE5. We have the 2.4 lead by over a 1.5 seconds. Car has 3 mods. Turbo kit, valve springs, catback.

Still think the lead is going to be short lived? Still think you 'got something for us'? Still think Hahn is doing anything even close to what we are?

And if Hahn is so knowledgable and skilled and been around so long, how did we absolutely destroy anything they have ever done in just a couple months?
-BTW, our car runs, drives and idles perfect. It's like stock til you get under boost. Don't think many hahn owners can say that.
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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they forgot to mention their tranny is all fucked up :P
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Oh, and by the way it looks like Zooomer is really proud of himself for this part. I guess it was quite an achievment for him to supposudely build a car that runs for more than a couple days.

"BTW, our car runs, drives and idles perfect. It's like stock til you get under boost. Don't think many hahn owners can say that."

The funny thing about this statement that has me curious is how do you think it runs under boost??? He says stock til under boost so is that when it starts knocking like no other??? LOL
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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LOL, I agree.

Not sure where this thread will go, but they are pretty cocky.

Not saying they don't deserve praise, but it is best to be humble, not an ass.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Yea he just doesnt get it..

Its not that we dont understand that you might be faster than some people...

Its just that we dont want to do business with someone who is such an asshat.

I would much rather pay a little more than put any money into someones hands who personally makes stabs at my intelligence...
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Hmm. Where's my email zoom .
Lol kind've weird but w/e...car is beast..
I've never had a problem with him he is always helpful when I ask something no matter how stupid of a request it is..I think some people just take little things and try to blow them out of proportion kinda gay.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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any attention is good attention
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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any attention is good attention
Okay octo-mom
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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^^ that made me lol
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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I have no idea who taught him how to run a business with customers.

No matter who you are, it is NOT okay to PM someone rubbing something in their face, regardless if it right or not... especially coming from a business...

A saved a few links to show potential ZZP customers of how zooomer acts when he decides someone is "against" him...
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Okay octo-mom
LMAO!!!

I've found in general that a good business man doesn't have to bash others products in an attempt to sell their own. If what they sell is so good it'll sell itself.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by umrdyldo
LOL, I agree.

Not sure where this thread will go, but they are pretty cocky.

Not saying they don't deserve praise, but it is best to be humble, not an ass.
ZOOMER is cocky...

and while he is being dickish about this .. he's very right.. hahn didnt even make the 2.4 kit or 2.2 kit.. it was a garrett kit they tuned and did some fueling things for ... Hahn is great at what they do .. and they've done alot of work on this motor for the solstice and sky but didnt go for the gusto on the cobalt because they've already been there..

and also his comments about the tuning are pretty sound.. as well..

but again theres no reason to be a douche about it
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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They also failed to mention that bill's been dealing with a very ill father, and that his father passed away recently. there hasn't been much racing for them lately.
I"m going to stop there.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Angel
Oh, and by the way it looks like Zooomer is really proud of himself for this part. I guess it was quite an achievment for him to supposudely build a car that runs for more than a couple days.

"BTW, our car runs, drives and idles perfect. It's like stock til you get under boost. Don't think many hahn owners can say that."

The funny thing about this statement that has me curious is how do you think it runs under boost??? He says stock til under boost so is that when it starts knocking like no other??? LOL
and have you watched any of their vidz? it's pretty clear that it runs fine under boost he's just saying unless your WOT it doesnt feel any different then before
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Hes running awesome times... no doubt about it...

No reason to be all up a customers but to prove your point...

There should be some cockiness to get your product sold, but not going to the extent of pming members something they arent concerned with. You only take it so far.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
They also failed to mention that bill's been dealing with a very ill father, and that his father passed away recently. there hasn't been much racing for them lately.
I"m going to stop there.
very true..
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
Hes running awesome times... no doubt about it...

No reason to be all up a customers but to prove your point...

There should be some cockiness to get your product sold, but not going to the extent of pming members something they arent concerned with. You only take it so far.
Thanks SS, this is exactly my point. Sure they may be somewhat decent at what they do but even then I would beg to differ after talking to MANY MANY members who have had nothing but problems with them but my main point here is WHY does he feel the need to PM me this bullshit??? This is only one of MANY PM's he has sent. Im just sick of the bullshit now. Hence the reason that HAHN and OTTP are my vendors of choice NOW.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:43 PM
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did you sign up for a mailing list? because if you did THATS why you're getting it lol

OTTP is my vendor of choice.. hahn is great but WAY overpriced IMO

zoomer needs to be boosted.. and let matt M and ryan take care of everything they're MUCH better customer service reps then zoomer
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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No, I did not sign up for the mailing list. I personally think they are done. A company like them will not be around for many more months/years to come the way they conduct themselves. Just take a look around even this forum at how they talk down upon NUMEROUS members here and then show me a SINGLE negative post from any other vendor slamming anyone on here. Its quite humorous to say the least.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Angel
No, I did not sign up for the mailing list. I personally think they are done. A company like them will not be around for many more months/years to come the way they conduct themselves. Just take a look around even this forum at how they talk down upon NUMEROUS members here and then show me a SINGLE negative post from any other vendor slamming anyone on here. Its quite humorous to say the least.
actually TTR was doing the exact same thing for a good while.. it's why i wont use them lol .. i see what you're saying .. but like i said look who's being an ass.. 95% of the time it's zoomer ... i think he just needs to not post lol
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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The " in your sentence means you are quoting someone. Since you don't understand this, I suggest you go back to grade school.

When you say "so what was up with" you are asking me a question which is followed by a quote meaning you are quoting me. Not that you can understand any of what I'm saying but perhaps a friend could translate for you so you don't look so low IQ in a public forum in the future.??
He was wrong anyway.. because the " werent quoting ANYTHING he said... But reguardless, i DO NOT want to be talked to like that, by anybody... And someone who will personally take a stab like that deserves to have EVERYONE know how they are willing to treat a customer.

Your right, Zooomer is the main problem.

Matt M doesnt bother me... I think he only does it because zooomer will probably yell and scream at him and tell him hes stupid if he doesnt.

They are the only vendor who, when disagreed with, will actually get hostile and throw names around like 75% of the nubs who join.

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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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Okay octo-mom
Lol that bitch lives near me hahaha
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Okay octo-mom
You guys know that bitch is getting a broadway show based on her called octo-mom!!! WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH THIS GOD DAMN COUNTRY!@#!@#@!#@!#!@#!@#!@
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damn cocky as hellllll
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 04:39 PM
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yes I will agree and I do have some experience with a buddy who was having problems with a pcm ordered from zzp, but I love the fact that the push these cars so far. I am sure as hell not going to be the guinea pig and find out the chain of broke parts thrashing it down the track so let it be them. They do make some real quality parts with pretty affordable prices and really aside from maybe OTT these guys consistantly come out with new stuff.



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