:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

its a lie. pay no attention to this post.

suck still no 08 2.4

This is GREAT news for the 2.2's! Well, in '08 anyway. My wife is still mad about no tuning for '06

that fuckin sucks.....lucky 08 bastards lol

HAHA! 08 FTW! im so happy i hope this isent a repost.

did you order it yet?

haha naw im short about 700 dollars LOL

Mine will be here next week

'08..? damn... what happened to '07..?

'08..? damn... what happened to '07..?

07's and lower have the e16 ecm that they arent going to unlock ever. 08's have the e37 ecm thats used in various other cars (hhr, sky,etc)

damn. they need to make them for 06 now

well that just sucks

sorry to burst your bubble but they never will support the 05-07 2.2

:( :( :(

im sorry *hug*

lol, its coo, vince still loves us

very true!

lol, dataloggin is a bitch tho

05-09 Chevy Cobalt 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 (2.2 in 08 Only, 08 2.4 Not Supported)

I love how they generalize all cobalt motors for the years. I'm still half asleep I'm like wait, there's no 2006 2.2L support WTF? Then I saw it also includes the 2.0 and 2.4s

ehh there pretty much the same.

I was just reading about this yesterday. I hope someone in the cincinnati area has (an updated!) copy of hpt! I could use a tune right about now.

05-06 use e16 ecm...
07+use a 32bit ecm

05-09 cobalts can be tuned by trifects

07 can be tuned by trifecta and ls2edit

08 hpt(based on OP info)

what does that mean? trifecta can tune EVERY cobalt of every trim w/any of the engines and ecms

Its my 1997 Firebird 3800 series II all over again.
I always get THE model year that no one offers the same mods to the year after or before.
Lame...

do you guys think you could get more power out of this then Trifecta?

Also i see the 07 g5 2.4 but doesnt say anything about an 08 g5 2.2 but the cobalt 2.2 is supported, would it make a difference?

trifecta knows what they are doing...really depends on the tuner...trifecta would be cheaper

trifecta knows what they are doing...really depends on the tuner...trifecta would be cheaper

Trifecta is only cheaper if you dont need it multiple times.

Trifecta is only cheaper if you dont need it multiple times.

ive been tuned 3 times, total cost..lemme see...200+38+38=less than HPT

also depends if the guy tuning knows what he is doing...i woudlnt recommend a noob buy htp...just go to a shop and make sure they have the newest verison and have a professional tune the car

Still no LE5 support for the 08's.....:cussing:

trifecta supports your car ;)

ive been tuned 3 times, total cost..lemme see...200+38+38=less than HPT

also depends if the guy tuning knows what he is doing...i woudlnt recommend a noob buy htp...just go to a shop and make sure they have the newest verison and have a professional tune the car

Well then youve got a dealer/someone with a cable hooking you up, because thats below Trifectas MAP. Ive got all kinds of stuff for a good deal, doesnt mean that my deals count as fair market value for everyone else. You also need to rely on ONE (however reliable) individual to tune your vehicle, you also need to wait/pay everytime you want to be tuned. This has all been discussed myriad times before, Trifecta is good stuff, but its not all there is, now us 08 2.2 guys(and others) have 3 choices.

I would stick with the tried and true Trifecta. I have yet to hear anything bad about their tunes...

trifecta supports your car ;)

which is tempting but I have a buddy thats really good with the Hptuners and has done amazing work on his gm cars with it. So itd be a lot easier for retunes and such.

Win!

:twothumbs

doesnt the 07 have the e37?

"Hi!My name is HPT!Im going completely skip 05-07 cobalt 2.2's and go right to 08's.Im a big fucking doosh"

Fuckers!

07 Has the E37A ECU

^ thats what i thought and i was doin research and everything i found said 07+ had e37

sorry to burst your bubble but they never will support the 05-07 2.2

its not like it really matters that much.

i'll be happy with my trifecta tuned L61 for now.

How can you tell what ecu you have? Is there a sticker located on the unit somewhere? If I give ya my vin can you figure it out that way?

what about 09 2.2's?

what about 09 2.2's?

still too new imo to break yet

i dare any of you to make more power off one of these then vince could with the same engine :lol:
with as much as he has done he can make more power. also i was tlaking with him and he said that they way they did it is make it so you can edit just enough to make a diff but not NEARLY everything...but he can, so he is still better
also, if vince screws your car im sure he wont leave you high and dry...if you fuck it with hpt welcome to paying for a new engine or many new parts...


im all for being able to do things yourself...but i really dont think this will be a "win" for 99% of the people here that think it will be...

when i decide to tune i will contact vince since he has so many happy customers

>>08 E37 is not supported, we need to correct the supported vehicles page for an oversight on some applications.
from Bill at HPTuners on the HPTuners forum

typo on hptuners site sez wut

RAWRFULLAWLZ :D

sooo trifecta is still it lol

>>08 E37 is not supported, we need to correct the supported vehicles page for an oversight on some applications.
from Bill at HPTuners on the HPTuners forum

typo on hptuners site sez wut

RAWRFULLAWLZ :D

sooo trifecta is still it lol
lawlerskates...bring them up just to slam them teh fukzors down :lol:

see hahn....
see hahn fuck with your head....
see hahn say you can stick only the head in....no more...then you are done :lol:

and maven i understand your concern.. it just means you have to plan.. you act like getting hptuner doesn't cost money each time.. i don't know any tuner who doesnt charge for puting on new tunes.. usually it's 100 + 50/hour at least for the first tune.. then similar fees from there on out if you goto a shop it's like 400 + then again if you want to get any new tunes vince is 285 (for the gt tuner) and he goes till he gets it right 75 for an update and like 200 for a full tune update if you go boost or cams or something big like that thats no different then someone who uses HPtuners

not to mention once vince finishes the ecuflash program you'll have all the capabilities of vince for you to use at your own fingertips.. and "credits" will be cheaper then HPtuners he said ..

see hahn....
see hahn fuck with your head....
see hahn say you can stick only the head in....no more...then you are done :lol:

How can you tell what ecu you have? Is there a sticker located on the unit somewhere? If I give ya my vin can you figure it out that way?

if you have an 08 2.2 then your set.

and per your sig your fine :twothumbs

correct me if i'm wrong but dont 07 have an e37 too? everytime i do research it says 07 have e37...

great so my 07 cant get a tune fml............but hey maybe ill get my mom to tune her 08 LS lmao

if you have an 08 2.2 then your set.

and per your sig your fine :twothumbs

no .. he's not set.. it was apparently a missprint

no .. he's not set.. it was apparently a missprint

stop lieing to yourself.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18666

stop lieing to yourself.

i'm not.. you are.. bill from hptuners >>> you :lol:

not to mention of all years it would be stupid to support the 08's it's a different ecm then the 09s and the 05-07... the e16a they said they'll never crack the ONLY reason the 08s might get it is because other cars use the e37.. the 06-07 2.4's use the E67 ecm which is also used in a bunch of cars which is why that has support..

ggggrrrrrrrrr at you. i made a thread specific. we will see

i see they finally admited they'll never support eh e16a

i mean im not sure why they would post such a specific thing up as (08 2.2 only) if its not correct but as soon as some one replys we will know for sure.

and maven i understand your concern.. it just means you have to plan.. you act like getting hptuner doesn't cost money each time..

not to mention once vince finishes the ecuflash program you'll have all the capabilities of vince for you to use at your own fingertips.. and "credits" will be cheaper then HPtuners he said ..

Getting HPTuners DOESNT cost money each time... It cost $499 once then its yours forever, and you can tune 4 ECOTECs with it....actaully you can tune everyengine from one model year and then another individual engine. And LS2Edit is $550 and then you can tune as often as you like on your car.

I am not bashing anything I dont want this to become a pissing match at all, just that like everything here, people like to E-hump, to the point of not looking at the alternatives at all. For 07-newer cars there are alternatives.


When Vince publishes an end user tuning software we can discuss again. I am sure if he can provide access to certain ECUs and and certain tables that HPT doesn he will have a big hit.

i mean im not sure why they would post such a specific thing up as (08 2.2 only) if its not correct but as soon as some one replys we will know for sure.

well the thing is 2.2's and 2.4's use the same ecm so if one is supported the other should be lol

well the thing is 2.2's and 2.4's use the same ecm so if one is supported the other should be lol

i see what your saying but i just looked and the 07 and 08 2.2 ecm seems to be different so they may both be a e37 but i THINK the 08 is still different.

Getting HPTuners DOESNT cost money each time... It cost $499 once then its yours forever, and you can tune 4 ECOTECs with it....actaully you can tune everyengine from one model year and then another individual engine. And LS2Edit is $550 and then you can tune as often as you like on your car.

I am not bashing anything I dont want this to become a pissing match at all, just that like everything here, people like to E-hump, to the point of not looking at the alternatives at all. For 07-newer cars there are alternatives.


When Vince publishes an end user tuning software we can discuss again. I am sure if he can provide access to certain ECUs and and certain tables that HPT doesn he will have a big hit.


i see you're talking about doing it yourself i thought you meant having someone else tune your car lol thats all ..

so for hptuner pro it costs 650 thats still alot of tune updates from vince however if someone already had hptuners its not a big deal.. i was comparing apples to apples having someone else tune you (with trifecta) then having someone else tune you (with hptuners) will both cost money every time.. however if you do your own tuning yes it's a 1 time fee for the software (and money to unlock car, with hptuners the first 4 credits are included in the price) but that would be the same on both fronts


i see what you're saying though man and no i'm not trying to turn it into a pissing match lol the only alternative right now is ls2edit that i'm aware of outside of a piggyback or standalone.

the big issue here also that people don't want to necessarily tune themselves on a crazy project so they leave it up to other people that know how to tune.

man i really hope bill just wasn't informed about the 08 2.2 other wise its a lie.

man i really hope bill just wasn't informed about the 08 2.2 other wise its a lie.

yea i saw your post i guess it's good he could be wrong.. lol

if he is wrong then WTF why don't they support 2.4.s lol

yea i saw your post i guess it's good he could be wrong.. lol

if he is wrong then WTF why don't they support 2.4.s lol

im sorry :(

im sorry :(

i don't care lol i'm an 06 2.4 so i'm good

i don't care lol i'm an 06 2.4 so i'm good

ohhhh. lol. god dam i hope there supported i need a MOTHER FUCKING TUNE! and sorry im a hptuners fan boi

wtf did i just read on the first page?

was somebody on the first page of this thread seriously able to get by saying the 07 uses the e16 ECM?

IDIOT..... the 07 uses the E37. The 07-08 is the E37. Then they switched the engine in 09 to the LAP. I'm unsure of what ECM 09's use, but I could find out in one phone call if you'd like.

So really HPT is giving ya'll crap advertising and technically incorrect information. If they cracked an 08, they can use that same tune on an 07.

05-09 folks can all go through Trifecta performance. Trifecta can do every Cobalt's tuning.

wtf did i just read on the first page?

was somebody on the first page of this thread seriously able to get by saying the 07 uses the e16 ECM?

IDIOT..... the 07 uses the E37. The 07-08 is the E37. Then they switched the engine in 09 to the LAP. I'm unsure of what ECM 09's use, but I could find out in one phone call if you'd like.

So really HPT is giving ya'll crap advertising and technically incorrect information. If they cracked an 08, they can use that same tune on an 07.

05-09 folks can all go through Trifecta performance. Trifecta can do every Cobalt's tuning.

good one man. got me. so i dident know. woops.... :spam:

good one man. got me. so i dident know. woops.... :spam:

didn't read pg2 lol. i see people already showed you the light. now if only somebody would let HPtuners know of their mistake.

I've heard some rumor about a potential Trifecta end-user tuning suite, perhaps in a few months, if it becomes more than a rumor, I'll see about becoming a tester using the carpc solution I'm developing. And who knows, maybe it could become a extra purchase module for the CarPC's i'll be selling. lots of speculation and optimism here, but yea.

Here's the breakdown on the E37 application in the Cobalt:

07 2.2
08 2.2, 2.4
09 2.2

All years from what I've seen use a DIFFERENT service number so they are NOT interchangible - you can't use an 07 ECM with an 08 OS, etc.

08 2.2 and 2.4 use the same operating system so if one is supported so is the other

09 2.2 (LAP) uses an E37 also

Here's the breakdown on the E37 application in the Cobalt:

07 2.2
08 2.2, 2.4
09 2.2

All years from what I've seen use a DIFFERENT service number so they are NOT interchangible - you can't use an 07 ECM with an 08 OS, etc.

08 2.2 and 2.4 use the same operating system so if one is supported so is the other

09 2.2 (LAP) uses an E37 also

and i stand corrected. :)

meh who cares if doesn't support our cars,we still have trifecta.

meh who cares if doesn't support our cars,we still have trifecta.

It supports my yellow car, thats all I care about.:guns:

It supports my yellow car, thats all I care about.:guns:

haha.. fair enough lol

Here's the breakdown on the E37 application in the Cobalt:

07 2.2
08 2.2, 2.4
09 2.2

All years from what I've seen use a DIFFERENT service number so they are NOT interchangible - you can't use an 07 ECM with an 08 OS, etc.

08 2.2 and 2.4 use the same operating system so if one is supported so is the other

09 2.2 (LAP) uses an E37 also

thank you for clearing it up. thats what i was thinking that they were technically the same ecm but different if that makes any sense



and i guess only time will tell bill at hpt says hes gonna get the "typo" fixed so if it disappears that the 08 2.2 is supported then it was indeed a typo but if not THANK GOD! lol

someone need to contact HPT and tell them they have a typo and need to fix it...

someone need to contact HPT and tell them they have a typo and need to fix it...

we already have.

sweet!

sweet!

and personally i hope to GOD that it isent a typo and they indeed support the 08 2.2 cobalt.

i hope the support the 07

sorry to burst your bubble but they never will support the 05-07 2.2

f u!!!!!!
I didnt mean that....lol

Great news!

Great news!
now go back and read...

now go back and read...

Ohhhhhhh.

its still a possible great news! dont lose hope people!!

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24774&highlight=cobalt+2.2

confirmed...not supported...yet

well i still have one way of figuring it out.

i feel like bill might not know his stuff. it dosent take that long to get a "misprint" undone. html is pretty easy stuff.

so for now i still believe that it works.

:d!!!

someone try and see if it works on the e37...

someone try and see if it works on the e37...

I'm working with wickedSS as soon as we find out if HPT supports it or not. If I hear anything I'll make sure to drop a post

Easiest way to do it would be to read the ecu. Maybe we should just meet up and try it

Easiest way to do it would be to read the ecu. Maybe we should just meet up and try it

I'm so down.

Ill be reading my '08 LS tonight.

Ill be reading my '08 LS tonight.

Awesome! Post up with results ASAP..

Ill be reading my '08 LS tonight.

easy to read your 08 z22t read it already

but tune it, it still to be confirmed

Ill be reading my '08 LS tonight.
you can READ any model any year, someone did it to mine a while back before

Okay sorry....Ill be reading it to verify if it can be tuned.....

well, this makes me pretty sad

Okay so its officially official, HPT does NOT work on the '08 L61. I wont even read it. After hooking up to my car and trying I emailed HPT my VIN and William Henn(Bill) of HPT confirmed the L61 is NOT SUPPORTED.

Well wicked, looks like we're S.O.L.


.....for now!

isnt trifecta still cheaper then this?

Okay so its officially official, HPT does NOT work on the '08 L61. I wont even read it. After hooking up to my car and trying I emailed HPT my VIN and William Henn(Bill) of HPT confirmed the L61 is NOT SUPPORTED.

guess that doesnt help either =/

ill up date the OP :cry: