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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Cobalt ss not supercharged?

I went to a dealer today and he said that some cobalt ss' don't have superchargers on them, yet they are ss models? Whats the difference between the ss and the lt then?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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My 4D SS/NA is a 2.4 versus the LT 2.2

More power, SS body kit, and SS interior, SS rims, smaller insurance payment
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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2.4L n/a 175hp. basically just the body kit is put on and has the SS suspension.. not really sure why they made them without a s/c. kind of stupid IMO. i was lookin it up earlier and each year its
2% had the LSJ 2.0 s/c
2% has the 2.4 n/a
96% are base model
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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alright thanks alot
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Brand new could be a turbocharged model, not supercharged...
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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GM wanted an Automatic SS. The 2.4 was the solution. But they had it on the market for a short period of time. The ones you will find on the car lot will have SS things such as the body kit, etc but will not have the SS badge
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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some have turbos but other than that what he said^^^^

SS- 2.0 LSJ, 2.0 LNF, 2.4 LE5 I believe its called.

too slow
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
some have turbos but other than that what he said^^^^

SS- 2.0 LSJ, 2.0 LNF, 2.4 LE5 I believe its called.

too slow
2.4 LE5 is correct
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Black SS 07
2.4L n/a 175hp. basically just the body kit is put on and has the SS suspension.. not really sure why they made them without a s/c. kind of stupid IMO. i was lookin it up earlier and each year its
2% had the LSJ 2.0 s/c
2% has the 2.4 n/a
96% are base model
The SS S/C has a different suspension than the SS 2.4
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:09 PM
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The SS S/C has a different suspension than the SS 2.4
correct sir.

the SS/NA's have FE3 suspension and the SS/SC's have FE5 suspension
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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2.4L = 06, 07, 08 (?)

different suspension than the cobalt ss supercharged

2.4L LE5

cloth or leather interior 168hp 173 lbft of torque

Most come in automatic

have 140mph speedo

don't have lip kit on front or rear

no high mount usually

called the SS in 06, 07, called the Sport in 08.

I think thats it.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scythe_Snake
2.4L = 06, 07, 08 (?)

different suspension than the cobalt ss supercharged

2.4L LE5

cloth or leather interior 168hp 173 lbft of torque

Most come in automatic

have 140mph speedo

don't have lip kit on front or rear

no high mount usually

called the SS in 06, 07, called the Sport in 08.

I think thats it.

The LE5 has 171-173Hp depending on the year. Also note that the 2.4L SS is lighter than the base and supercharged/turbocharged models
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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Also note that the 2.4L SS is lighter than the base and supercharged/turbocharged models
Really? That i did not know
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by riko540
The LE5 has 171-173Hp depending on the year. Also note that the 2.4L SS is lighter than the base and supercharged/turbocharged models
That would depend on options as far as 2.4/base. There's nothing done to "lighten" the FE3 cars, so it's all about how they were optioned out originally.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by riko540
The LE5 has 171-173Hp depending on the year. Also note that the 2.4L SS is lighter than the base and supercharged/turbocharged models
impossible.

there is no way in hell my base 2.2 with crank windows and no power locks is heavier than a 2.4.

theres just no way.

auto sedan for auto sedan its impossible.

someone get actual curb weights in here of both comparable models. BASE 2.2 vs 2.4
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by riko540
The LE5 has 171-173Hp depending on the year. Also note that the 2.4L SS is lighter than the base and supercharged/turbocharged models
its not lighter than the base models, but it is (marginally) lighter than the 2.0 models. they dont carry the weight of the blower anduse a light weight plastic intake manifold

a base model 2.2 is the lightest, since it lacks the sunroof, power window motors, lock solenoids, the extra wiring, the pioneer sub, the tweeters, that associated wiring, also has a plastic intake manifold, no heavy supercharger/turbo(and piping), and a few small things like the carpet covering the trunk section, etc.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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If you pop the hood on it, and it has "Ecotec VVT" on the top of the engine, then it is the LE5 2.4L Ecotec.

This was only known as the SS for a short time until they changed it to Sport. The 08 Sports had the LE5, but the very few sports (Or G5GT's) from 09 had the LAP engine which is also found on the LS.

The reason they changed it to the Cobalt "Sport" was to make sure it was not being confused with the boosted SS cars.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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And the SS S/c and T/c are not available as automatics.
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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i have the 2.4l and it is 171 hp at crank and 155-160 at wheels and mine is stick
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by prvdoughnut
i have the 2.4l and it is 171 hp at crank and 155-160 at wheels and mine is stick
congrats?
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blackbolt89
impossible.

there is no way in hell my base 2.2 with crank windows and no power locks is heavier than a 2.4.

theres just no way.

auto sedan for auto sedan its impossible.

someone get actual curb weights in here of both comparable models. BASE 2.2 vs 2.4

QFT


There is no cobalt lighter than a stripper Base .
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Alright I know it sounds impossible so here the info:

2007 Cobalt LS coupe (w/o options) curb weight: 2991 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2007 Cobalt SS/NA coupe (w/o options) curb weight: 2815 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2007 Cobalt SS/SC (w/o options) curb weight: 2925 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2009 Cobalt SS/TC coupe (w/o options) curb weight:2926 lbs.

http://www.chevrolet.com/vehicles/20...pe/features.do



Surprisingly enough the 2009 non SS coupes seem to be the lightest w/ a curb weight ranging between 2721-2743 lbs.

I'm going to post the sedan weights as well but I'll let you argue over this first lol.
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:49 PM
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^ Interesting
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Note the 2009 models are lighter due to the fact that they no longer come with the spare tire and associated equipment standard, its an option now. Your probably now wondering no spare tire? Its going to be ok they come with a inflater kit (I'll take the spare thank you very much) thats lighter. If you get the spare tire option it replaces the inflater kit. So there you have it folks
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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by riko540
Alright I know it sounds impossible so here the info:

2007 Cobalt LS coupe (w/o options) curb weight: 2991 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2007 Cobalt SS/NA coupe (w/o options) curb weight: 2815 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2007 Cobalt SS/SC (w/o options) curb weight: 2925 lbs.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Spec...&Mileage=12000

2009 Cobalt SS/TC coupe (w/o options) curb weight:2926 lbs.

http://www.chevrolet.com/vehicles/20...pe/features.do



Surprisingly enough the 2009 non SS coupes seem to be the lightest w/ a curb weight ranging between 2721-2743 lbs.

I'm going to post the sedan weights as well but I'll let you argue over this first lol.
you seem to glance past the fact that CHEVY says the LS weighs 2721, i don't give a **** what some website says. cause there is NO WAY a BASE MODEL car with a smaller motor weighs 170 pounds more than a 2.4SS that comes with all power and a sub in the trunk.

no way. not a chance.

i believe chevy over KBB anyday too btw.

none of their facts are right, so what you're essentially trying to say is that interestingly enough the base model coupe weighs more than the SS/SC, with its supercharger, cast intake manifold and the heat exchanger?
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