View Full Version : Make a SC handle like a TC?


ScaryFatKidGT
07-19-2009, 02:04 AM
Is it possible to make a SC handle more like the greatly praised SS/TC? The SCed has some understeer/front-end problems because of its overly stiff front sway, and alot more time went into tuning the TCeds set up.

Iv been thinking the SCed already has pretty good shocks/struts/springs (not to hard not to soft) and a 24mm front sway so all it needs is a 24mm rear right? and then some slightly wider rims and 225 tires (or wider) instead of 215 and it should be pretty close right? or is it alot more complicated than that?

I read somewhere that aftermarket sways on balts don't replace the old one they just add a second sway...I don't think that's right? is it?

drew1991sf
07-19-2009, 02:20 AM
do the suspension i have. my car handles just as good if not better.
ss/tc struts/shocks, w/e springs u want, ottp or ttr rear sway, ottp cabs, and do hawk hps pads with slotted rotors

if u got enough money get the Pedders coilover set-up best one out

ScaryFatKidGT
07-19-2009, 02:37 AM
how much different are the TC shocks/struts then the SC?

yeah hawk hps's are the best street pads

and do slotted/cross drilled really help cooling people say they don't but every vette, ferrari, lamborgini and porscha have slotted/cross-drilled rotors so I don't think there just for looks.

drew1991sf
07-19-2009, 12:23 PM
they help but not until u upgrade the brake pads.
and the ss/tc struts/shocks are night and day over the sc's. wish i would have taped the difference in stiffness.

BlackSSNick
07-19-2009, 12:29 PM
where can you buy ss/tc shocks, struts, besides the overly priced stealership?

drew1991sf
07-19-2009, 12:43 PM
crateenginedepot.com
call tom or email him. got mine for 372shipped.

rallyracer
07-19-2009, 12:45 PM
where can you buy ss/tc shocks, struts, besides the overly priced stealership?

Cobalt FE5 Struts and Shock Pkg FE5-S
Note: Special Order, Please allow 2 weeks delivery

SKU: FE5-S
RETAIL: $485.92
YOUR PRICE: $327.22

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-FE5-Struts-and-Shock-Pkg-FE5-S-P2433C188.aspx

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/images/fe5S_large.jpg

BlackSSNick
07-19-2009, 12:50 PM
those are the ones they use on the turbocharged balt, because mine is supercharged and they look like the same ones.

rallyracer
07-19-2009, 12:58 PM
those are the ones they use on the turbocharged balt, because mine is supercharged and they look like the same ones.

Im not sure how we tell the difference http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/confused/confused0024.gif ...the web site doesn't get specific. I guess you'll have to just search by part numbers.


FE5 part numbers
Sway bar: 15821093
Clamps: 22608428('05 only , 1bolt/1slot) 10389617(2 bolt, ALL other FE5 including LNF)
Insulators: 22700091('05 only) 15822993(06-07 only)
Rear Axle: 15232752(same as FE3)
Links: 20784688(ALL FE5 same, including LNF)
Struts: 15247245/15247246(L/R)
Shocks: 22728821
Frt Springs: 21994335(L/R same)
Rr springs: 10390024(same as FE3)
Lower control arm: 15803766/15803767( L/R, right same as LNF)
Knuckle: 22667248/22667249(same as all except LNF)

LNF/FE5 Part numbers
Sway bar: 15782696
Clamps: 10389617(same as 06-07 FE5)
Insulators: 25847760
Rear Axle: 25864579
Links: 20784688( ALL FE5 same)
Struts: 19181044/19181043(L/R)
Shocks: 25793745
Frt Springs: 25833647(L/R same)
Rr Springs: 25821162
Lower control arm: 25930725/15803767( L/R, right same on ALL FE5)
Knuckle: 25923942/25923941(L/R, unique to LNF)

drew1991sf
07-19-2009, 01:07 PM
just call or email tom he knows. shipping is like $40-50 cuz the box weighs like 35lbs.

Maven
07-19-2009, 01:14 PM
I guess you'll have to just search my part numbers.




That looks a lot like the part numbers I posted......dont think they are yours. :lol:


Theres actually a new number for one front strut, and the price dropped, its no longer over $160 for the one strut.

rallyracer
07-19-2009, 02:23 PM
That looks a lot like the part numbers I posted......dont think they are yours. :lol:

BY part numbers...miss type. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/fighting/fighting0043.gif

ScaryFatKidGT
07-19-2009, 03:40 PM
do the suspension i have. my car handles just as good if not better.
ss/tc struts/shocks, w/e springs u want, ottp or ttr rear sway, ottp cabs, and do hawk hps pads with slotted rotors

if u got enough money get the Pedders coilover set-up best one out

so you don't think the "hardcore" bar made your car to stiff or tail happy?

did u notice a big difference with the control arm bushings? Does anyone make steering rack bushings?

I don't really want coil-overs the adjust ability is great but the car cant be to stiff then you cant pick up chicks with it ;)

tonio5555
07-19-2009, 03:55 PM
What is the improvment found in the TC suspension which makes it that much better than the SC? Is it the springs? The struts and shocks?

I have ss/sc springs on my 2.2 as of now, but I'm debating upgrading to the ss/tc springs or getting ss/tc struts and shocks and keeping the ss/sc springs.

ScaryFatKidGT
07-19-2009, 05:52 PM
What is the improvment found in the TC suspension which makes it that much better than the SC? Is it the springs? The struts and shocks?

I have ss/sc springs on my 2.2 as of now, but I'm debating upgrading to the ss/tc springs or getting ss/tc struts and shocks and keeping the ss/sc springs.

less under steer and better ride its a little bit of everything. go with the struts and shocks and keep ur springs then get a some sways when u save up enough

drew1991sf
07-19-2009, 10:57 PM
so you don't think the "hardcore" bar made your car to stiff or tail happy?

did u notice a big difference with the control arm bushings? Does anyone make steering rack bushings?

I don't really want coil-overs the adjust ability is great but the car cant be to stiff then you cant pick up chicks with it ;)
i havent had the hardcore bar or control arm bushings on yet it still hasnt been shipped.
but i had the ttr 1" and it was good not tail happy at all
What is the improvment found in the TC suspension which makes it that much better than the SC? Is it the springs? The struts and shocks?

I have ss/sc springs on my 2.2 as of now, but I'm debating upgrading to the ss/tc springs or getting ss/tc struts and shocks and keeping the ss/sc springs.
struts/shock are SO MUCH STIFFER its amazing.

CordiaDOHC
07-19-2009, 11:23 PM
have also wondered about this since im on the FE3 suspenion and would like a bit better handling without having to worry about scraping the front bumper.

WickedSS2005
07-19-2009, 11:50 PM
All cobalt coupe handles are the same..... lmao

WickedSS2005
07-19-2009, 11:51 PM
"Make an SC handle in a TC"

All cobalt coupe handles are the same..... lmao

CordiaDOHC
07-20-2009, 12:15 AM
"Make an SC handle in a TC"

All cobalt coupe handles are the same..... lmao

lol not true they come in different colors and sometimes even chrome

drew1991sf
07-20-2009, 03:21 AM
get ss/tc struts/shocks and springs if u want it a little lower and handle better w/o it being to "low". then a rear sway and ur fine

ScaryFatKidGT
07-20-2009, 05:58 PM
does anyone make an adjustable rear sway?

Area47
07-20-2009, 06:09 PM
rear twisting beam
shocks
struts
springs
front knuckles
steering rack
power steering motor
axles
hubs
wheels
tires.

drew1991sf
07-20-2009, 06:20 PM
can u use the knuckles without using the axles?

Evoly
07-20-2009, 06:45 PM
Nope! Knuckles need the TX axles, splines are different.

drew1991sf
07-21-2009, 12:29 AM
idk if they are good but jbp sells a trunk brace and camber plates. dont know if u can use the camber plates on the ss/tc struts. but hopefully area or maven will chime in on this

CordiaDOHC
07-21-2009, 04:16 AM
rear twisting beam
shocks
struts
springs
front knuckles
steering rack
power steering motor
axles
hubs
wheels
tires.

Those might be all the different parts but they arent all required to bring the handling of an SC or base model closer to that of a TC

musifreak190
07-23-2009, 08:58 PM
Hey how do you think the new TC shocks would ride with Eibach Pro-Kit Springs?

Area47
07-23-2009, 11:19 PM
Those might be all the different parts but they arent all required to bring the handling of an SC or base model closer to that of a TC

or do what i did and make it handle better than one.

Stiner
07-23-2009, 11:29 PM
and you accomplished this with?

qwikredline
07-23-2009, 11:47 PM
stiner u noo? 1.0 just like u. area47 has it nailed...see post 23 above

drew1991sf
07-24-2009, 12:00 AM
i would like to see how i would do against a ss/tc on a track.

Stiner
07-24-2009, 07:44 AM
stiner u noo? 1.0 just like u. area47 has it nailed...see post 23 above


Yeah I know he has the 1.0 purple bar under his car. wanted to know his whole set up, I'd imagine he has the TC shocks n Struts with some springs + steering rack spacer but what else?