We had one at work today, and I had to take it out for some evaluations. The interior (compared to my Cobalt) was quite nice. The materials were a step up.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6052/img00265.th.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/i/img00265.jpg/)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3162/img00267.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/i/img00267.jpg/)

Sorry about the pics. I didn't have my camera with me, and it was a spur of the moment thing, so my phone had to suffice.

As far as power goes...my wife's Corolla auto gas bigger balls.

If they put something worthwhile in it *cough* LNF *cough*, I would be all over it.

Just thought I would share.

Sweet man, too bad it's slow as fuck and the backend is fugly. GM needs to step up and drop the LNF in there and make the SS version a coupe (or at least available as one) and re-do the back end to look a lot better. Then it'll be win.

i like that dash a lot better.

its meant to be slow as fuck

it may be ment to be slow as f--- but wait till someone as crazy as me pulls the motor, forges the engine, turbo charges it, and tunes it.

wow, why did they have to change the reverse gear, it was fine where it was...

it may be ment to be slow as f--- but wait till someone as crazy as me pulls the motor, forges the engine, turbo charges it, and tunes it.

well i dont doubt with alot of time, money, and creativity you can make almost anything fast.

wow, why did they have to change the reverse gear, it was fine where it was...

I guess I should have specified...this is a European spec.

Reverse is staying put, as far as I know.

Aren't they still going to do a smaller turbo one that will get around 40mpg. Anything that has a turbo can always be coaxed a bit.

I think the euro spec Cruze is going to be quite a lot different than the North American spec Cruze. I know the U.S. Cruze is going to get a small turbocharged DI gas that makes about 140 horsepower or so but get close to 40 mpg.

Chevy, meet honda.....

engine swap ftw?

Chevy, meet honda.....

:lol:

i like the intereior.. but as someone else said.. needz a coupe SS model to even be worthwhile

wow, why did they have to change the reverse gear, it was fine where it was...
I'd be willing to be based on the engine offerings of the vehicle it's using the same or modified transmission as the Aveo did which has reverse in the top right.

Chevy, meet honda.....
x2 :lol:

there will be no ss models for years to come...so thats the thing...

If you think about the R position, it makes more sense having it near 1st. cuz you will either start driving or reverse. I had a 6 speed ms3 and man I keep almost shifting into R to go to 6th hahah I know theres a lock out though. but imo it makes sense.

thanks for the pics!

I can tell from the lol's from people that they know what Im getting at. That interior looks like it was taken out of a civic.

I dont like the civic interior. Especially that tacky looking digital readout. Yukky. I will say this though, at least they scrapped that crappy ass cheapo plastic shifterknob thats in the cobalt. I HATED that god damn thing with a passion.....

Ummmmmm....what kind of work do you do where you took out a car that's not even on sale in NA yet.

Also a Civic interior?? OOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkk.

at least we know about the cruze... i was talking to the dealership a couple weeks ago and asked when they were going to get the cruze and they said whats what? ive never heard of a cruze and i had to tell them there isnt going to be a 2010 cobalt and what not and then they pissed me off trying to give me 9500 for my 09 cobalt. then i told them that they arent shit for a dealer and if they knew ANYTHING at all about the cars they sell they would i know i paid almost 17k for my car new in october and that they should at least try and look at chevys website told them fuck you and went home.

Ummmmmm....what kind of work do you do where you took out a car that's not even on sale in NA yet.

Also a Civic interior?? OOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkk.



I work for a supplier...I fabricate prototype seats.

We are doing the seats for the Cruze...

I actually made the first SS seat (post Recaro).

:)

Ummmmmm....what kind of work do you do where you took out a car that's not even on sale in NA yet.

Also a Civic interior?? OOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkk.



I work for a supplier...I fabricate prototype seats.

We are doing the seats for the Cruze...

I actually made the first SS seat (post Recaro).

:)

Ummmmmm....what kind of work do you do where you took out a car that's not even on sale in NA yet.

Also a Civic interior?? OOOOOOOOOkkkkkkkkk.



I work for a supplier...I fabricate prototype seats.

We are doing the seats for the Cruze...

I actually made the first SS seat (post Recaro).

:)

^^^^^^^^^

Awesome triple post.

Sorry, folks...

Sweet man, too bad it's slow as fuck and the backend is fugly. GM needs to step up and drop the LNF in there and make the SS version a coupe (or at least available as one) and re-do the back end to look a lot better. Then it'll be win.Never gonna happen...I'm on the inside...so glad I got my LNF...

We are doing the seats for the Cruze...

I actually made the first SS seat (post Recaro).

:)


By chance did you see any "unusual" seat sketches for the cruze?;)

awd please

I really would have preferred that interior in my Balt, looks a little more upscale...

Then again who know, it probably sucks just as much as mine, just prettier.

I guess time will tell.

awd please

See, Subaru. :) LOLz

awd please

Would be 100 percent pointless in a car meant to be what this car is meant to be.

i think it looks slick. the no ss is killing it for me though.

share more impressions!

Might be very good with some good engine options and body styles.

at least we know about the cruze... i was talking to the dealership a couple weeks ago and asked when they were going to get the cruze and they said whats what? ive never heard of a cruze and i had to tell them there isnt going to be a 2010 cobalt and what not and then they pissed me off trying to give me 9500 for my 09 cobalt. then i told them that they arent shit for a dealer and if they knew ANYTHING at all about the cars they sell they would i know i paid almost 17k for my car new in october and that they should at least try and look at chevys website told them fuck you and went home.

Just as an FYI, there will be a 2010 Cobalt.

thanks for the pics, i cant wait to actually sit in it. i love the interior

sweet

Just as an FYI, there will be a 2010 Cobalt.

There will be some left over 2009 cobalt parts used to make 2010 cobalts. There will not be as many options and the ss/tc sedan is discontinued.

you guys might have a diff. opinion than i, but the cruze is such a fu***** waste. all it is is a new style accord with a chevy badge, the only way i woud ever sit in one of those is if they made the 2 door turbo version. chevy wont have any low priced sport cars( besides the bottom of the line camaro)....my god they are turning into toyota!!!

I may be wrong but toyota sells wayyyyy more cars than chevy, and possibly gm even. So from a business stand point it would be smart.

And besides the supra (which wasnt, and still isnt cheap) and the slow mr2 (even turboed) what did they have?

And help me out on this, but before the cobalt SS what did chevy have as cheap and sport, a z24 cavalier? Other than the camaro nothing comes to mind, pontiac had all the toys, but atlas its a way different company now.

yeahh, america is not going to have any half ass cheap sport cars before to much longer if something dont change.. i wanted my new car to be a subaru or a evo, but i just bought american to help out our eco... im trying not to buy anything made overseas...even though for the most part their stuff is better :lol:

There will be some left over 2009 cobalt parts used to make 2010 cobalts. There will not be as many options and the ss/tc sedan is discontinued.

Yes.

I may be wrong but toyota sells wayyyyy more cars than chevy, and possibly gm even. So from a business stand point it would be smart.

And besides the supra (which wasn't, and still isn't cheap) and the slow mr2 (even turboed) what did they have?

And help me out on this, but before the cobalt SS what did Chevy have as cheap and sport, a z24 cavalier? Other than the Camaro nothing comes to mind, Pontiac had all the toys, but atlas its a way different company now.

Please refrain from trying to sound knowledgeable in the future, or if you do please get your facts right.

:)

you guys might have a diff. opinion than i, but the cruze is such a fu***** waste. all it is is a new style accord with a chevy badge, the only way i woud ever sit in one of those is if they made the 2 door turbo version. chevy wont have any low priced sport cars( besides the bottom of the line camaro)....my god they are turning into toyota!!!

Same goes for you.

I know the U.S. Cruze is going to get a small turbocharged DI gas that makes about 140 horsepower or so but get close to 40 mpg.

thats pretty retarded since my 140hp cobalt already gets close to 40. little turbo motor probably costs a bit more than the 2.2

this is a stupid move in GM's part.... they beefed up the cobalt and now they are throwing it away for another malibu look like:cussing:

thats pretty retarded since my 140hp cobalt already gets close to 40. little turbo motor probably costs a bit more than the 2.2

Over 40mpg's. Not close to.

this is a stupid move in GM's part.... they beefed up the cobalt and now they are throwing it away for another malibu look like:cussing:

You just got done saying it's a Honda Accord with Chevy badges in your last post, but know you're saying it looks like a Malibu?

Re.Tard.

dude dont start shit.

its the point im trying to make that gm dont need to get rid of a sport car for another family car.

drop your smart ass personality or you wont make many friends in life..:lock:

interior is sweet, just cannot get over the snail speed.

dude don't start shit.

its the point I'm trying to make that gm don't need to get rid of a sport car for another family car.

drop your smart ass personality or you wont make many friends in life..:lock:

My personality does me just fine and I have plenty of friends.

BTW the Cobalt SS, no matter how good it is, is NOT a sports car.

how so

We had one at work today, and I had to take it out for some evaluations. The interior (compared to my Cobalt) was quite nice. The materials were a step up.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6052/img00265.th.jpg (http://img158.imageshack.us/i/img00265.jpg/)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/3162/img00267.th.jpg (http://img382.imageshack.us/i/img00267.jpg/)

Sorry about the pics. I didn't have my camera with me, and it was a spur of the moment thing, so my phone had to suffice.

As far as power goes...my wife's Corolla auto gas bigger balls.

If they put something worthwhile in it *cough* LNF *cough*, I would be all over it.

Just thought I would share.
what would you rate the car from what you seen and drove so far?

how so

:wtf: are you seriously asking me why the Cobalt isn't a sports car?

how so

you seriously think the lsj/lnf is a sports car? :lol:

compact i would say. or sport compact but not a actual sports car

yeahh, america is not going to have any half ass cheap sport cars before to much longer if something dont change.. i wanted my new car to be a subaru or a evo, but i just bought american to help out our eco... im trying not to buy anything made overseas...even though for the most part their stuff is better :lol:

most of the cobalt parts weren't made in the U.S. so i don't get your logic here.

my moms toyota camry is more american than your cobalt. it's the #1 american-made car actually.

compact i would say. or sport compact but not a actual sports car

sporty would also work. :p:

my moms toyota camry is more american than your cobalt. it's the #1 american-made car actually.



and that the turth to....believe it or not

how so


I hope you meant that you can drive to sport events in your car.

Over 40mpg's. Not close to.


best ive gotten was 42mpg when i was using a light foot. that better be one hell of a lot over 40mpg for the extra 1500-2500$ that motor probably costs. and hes right. its a sporty car not a sports car

you guys might have a diff. opinion than i, but the cruze is such a fu***** waste. all it is is a new style accord with a chevy badge, the only way i woud ever sit in one of those is if they made the 2 door turbo version. chevy wont have any low priced sport cars( besides the bottom of the line camaro)....my god they are turning into toyota!!!

I saw that you got you weren't too supported in saying this and yet, I agree, whole-heartedly.

The Cobalt is not a sport car, they were right about that, but it is an entry-level car that appeals to kids. Chevy NEEDS one of those and I think that discontinuing the Cobalt will prove to be a terrible idea for that reason. You get them hooked when they're young and then when they have a family and such, rather than getting some foreign garbage, they may think, "My Cobalt hasn't done me wrong... let's get a Malibu!"

It really upsets me, because every picture I've seen of the Cruze... I hate... even... more. There isn't anything really astetically pleasing about it. The thing is actually almost... ugly... The Cobalt was like a majorly improved Cavalier in appearance, so when I heard about the Cruze, I was hoping that it was just a continuation on the Cobalt under a differnet name, the way the Cobalt/Cavalier transition was percieved. Nope. It's a "family car."

What about the teenagers who's mommy and daddy are buying them a car? They really don't have any options that are this cheap, anymore.

Sorry for the rant, but I am downright depressed over this Cruze S#$%. I've always wanted to get a Cobalt when I can afford one... as it turns out, I guess I'll have to buy one, used. D= And... finding a used one that has the specific options that I want... well, that's just not going to happen, is it?

most of the cobalt parts weren't made in the U.S. so i don't get your logic here.

my moms toyota camry is more american than your cobalt. it's the #1 american-made car actually.



sporty would also work. :p:

Kay.. umm... you're missing a few things, here.

First and foremost, the Cobalt has 80% American content and as if now, it is the most American-made car. The Camry fell off the list because the Solara (Camry Coupe, as it actually is) has such little American content.

Secondly, just because it was rated the individual most American "car" means nothing. Actually, Toyota made the list a few times and yet, their fleet average American content is still only 41%. On top of that, Toyota only employs 37,000 Americans, whereas Gm employs more like 92,000.

So, this person was completely right in saying that a Cobalt was a more American choice.

Seeing as GM's Domestic Content (FLEET AVERAGE) is 75%, we can still trust that Any car from GM is still very, very American.

On average, American name plates are 72% American. Foreign cars are only 33% American. That is a huge gap, in case you haven't noticed.

Buying American still matters.:usa:

Lets remember something kids. Selling cars is a business, the general public doesn't want to drive manual transmission cars with summer tires and a sporty suspensions. They want a reliable point a to point b car.

Look at Toyota. Look at the Z's, Evo X MRs, GTIs, and even Honda Civic Si's now. They're making All those cars in automatic options and they are selling even better. They're out to make money and now they're doing it.

I don't like the non stick-only stuff, but it makes sense.

yeahh, america is not going to have any half ass cheap sport cars before to much longer if something dont change.. i wanted my new car to be a subaru or a evo, but i just bought american to help out our eco... im trying not to buy anything made overseas...even though for the most part their stuff is better :lol:

You were more than right in doing that. Thank you. =D

The Cobalt is actually at the top of the Most American list right now. 80% American content. Camry took a plunge when we realized that the "Solara" which is a two-door Camry, has such small amounts of American content and Ford employs more Americans in one plant than Subaru employs nation-wide.

http://levelfieldinstitute.org/fact_kit.html

Don't let the haters deter you. It is right and it does make a difference when you buy American. =D If more people thought like that, our economy wouldn't be so awful right now. D=
:usa::usa:

Lets remember something kids. Selling cars is a business, the general public doesn't want to drive manual transmission cars with summer tires and a sporty suspensions. They want a reliable point a to point b car.

Look at Toyota. Look at the Z's, Evo X MRs, GTIs, and even Honda Civic Si's now. They're making All those cars in automatic options and they are selling even better. They're out to make money and now they're doing it.

I don't like the non stick-only stuff, but it makes sense.

This is the internet. Take your common sense elsewhere!!!11!!!!11!

thanks to the people that actually see my point.

i stoped posting in this thread because i did not want drama and any hard feelings

im glad gm is doing a few changes to make a little more money, but you have to think that they are losing quite a bit of money by deleting " the fastest car under $20,000" they already have enough family sedans...for fuck sake they dont need another one in the line up.

and my earlier statement about the cobalt being a sports car... i was not comparing it to a fucking lambo... just to me a nice little 2door super/turbocharged car..is a nice sporty car.

This is the internet. Take your common sense elsewhere!!!11!!!!11!

Oh, I'm sorry! Lemme try again

I WANT AN SS CRUZ WITH A 6 SPEED AND AWD AND A TURBOEZ SO I CAN BEAT ALL THE PEOPLES!

thanks to the people that actually see my point.

i stoped posting in this thread because i did not want drama and any hard feelings

im glad gm is doing a few changes to make a little more money, but you have to think that they are losing quite a bit of money by deleting " the fastest car under $20,000" they already have enough family sedans...for fuck sake they dont need another one in the line up.

and my earlier statement about the cobalt being a sports car... i was not comparing it to a fucking lambo... just to me a nice little 2door super/turbocharged car..is a nice sporty car.

Thing is, there are already enough compact family sedans out there. The foreign companies have the Corolla and the Civic and Ford has the Focus. The Cobalt was in an elite class, all its own. It was that class that everyone who does their research and knows what they're buying will take notice of. There should be a sporty option in every size-range, if you ask me. My mom didn't want to look like a soccer mom, so when she got her last car, she got a Pontiac Grand Prix because it was both practical and stylish.

A lot of kids want a cheap car that looks sporty. Without the Cobalt, more kids will be buying foreign cars because they're the only option in that "fast and under 20,000" category.

I doubt all of the Cobalt fans will go to the Cruze. I forsee a lot of them turning to Suzuki or Mitsubishi for "bang for your buck" garbage and seeing as we have too many people buying foreign cars already, THAT is a tragedy. D= :usa:

unless gm has a 2door turbo ss cruze with a diff. rear...i will not be interested.

it may be ment to be slow as f--- but wait till someone as crazy as me pulls the motor, forges the engine, turbo charges it, and tunes it.

Until i pull up in my stock LS3 vette and blow your doors off :twothumbs

Oh, I'm sorry! Lemme try again

I WANT AN SS CRUZ WITH A 6 SPEED AND AWD AND A TURBOEZ SO I CAN BEAT ALL THE PEOPLES!

:lol::lol:

Kay.. umm... you're missing a few things, here.

First and foremost, the Cobalt has 80% American content and as if now, it is the most American-made car. The Camry fell off the list because the Solara (Camry Coupe, as it actually is) has such little American content.

Secondly, just because it was rated the individual most American "car" means nothing. Actually, Toyota made the list a few times and yet, their fleet average American content is still only 41%. On top of that, Toyota only employs 37,000 Americans, whereas Gm employs more like 92,000.

So, this person was completely right in saying that a Cobalt was a more American choice.

Seeing as GM's Domestic Content (FLEET AVERAGE) is 75%, we can still trust that Any car from GM is still very, very American.

On average, American name plates are 72% American. Foreign cars are only 33% American. That is a huge gap, in case you haven't noticed.

Buying American still matters.:usa:

please provide the link that proves what you are saying.

this link is dated 6/30/09 and has the camry in #1 spot. http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=top&subject=ami&story=amMade0709

please provide the link that proves what you are saying.

this link is dated 6/30/09 and has the camry in #1 spot. http://www.cars.com/go/advice/Story.jsp?section=top&subject=ami&story=amMade0709

That article is far more recent than the last one I read... and yet, did you read the whole thing?

"GM, Ford and Chrysler generally have higher domestic-parts content across their lineups than their European and Asian competitors. The bottom rung of domestic parts-content models, conversely, is heavy on import brands: All 50 of the 2009 models whose American Automobile Labeling Act parts content is zero are built by Asia- or Europe-based automakers, according to NHTSA."

I truly believe we need to measure these things by fleet average, rather than just one car. Toyota brags that it employs 35,000 Americans, but General Motors employs 92,000 (these numbers are from '08.) To say that buying a Toyota and supporting 35,000 American jobs is more American than buying a Chevy and supporting 92,000 is simply absurd.

The problems here are:

A. Our exchange rate with Japan is royally screwed up.

B. Having about the highest standard of living in the world, Americans are the most expensive people to employ. In most places in Europe, they have Socialized healthcare, so the companies don't need to pay for it.

The big three cannot make cars with 100% Domestic content. In fact, they were averaging at 75%... and it drove two of them to bankruptcy. Their domestic content numbers keep slipping downward because no one is supporting them and while they're protesting that they're moving plants to Mexico and that they aren't using 100% Domestic content, they aren't protesting that Toyota averages at 41%, Honda at 47% and Nissan at 31%.

For some reason, people in our society act like the Japanese Automakers are saints for providing jobs, while the Big Three provide more than all of the Asian Automakers combined. That includes Hyundai/Kia, too.

Actually, there is a third huge problem and that is the fact that while Japan controls 96% of their own auto market and Korea controls 95%, we only control 45% of our own market.

Maybe this "Globalization" of the auto industry would work if the Consumers in Japan or Korea would get the memo, but I can't blame them for wanting to support their own country... and I really wish that people in America would start to do that before its too late.

Look at our federal deficit for a moment.

Now, allow me to tell you that Korea has seen a record trade surplus.

We can't keep going on like this. We're buying everyone else's stuff and they're not buying ours, which supports more than twice as many jobs and in the case of Hyundai/Kia, the big three supports FIVE TIMES as many jobs.

http://levelfieldinstitute.org/fact_kit.html

And on that same note, the Chevy Aveo really isn't a Chevy at all... its a Daewoo. That thing is more foreign than a foreign nameplate. I realize this... and yet, GM purchases that vehicle from Daewoo. They do not make it and I do not endorse buying it.
:usa::usa:

your link does not work.

pretty sure the cobalt has a ton of parts made in mexico....like most american made cars...

and god damn i cant stand this deftones fan fuckhead.

wtf are you even talking about

get out of this forum u drive a mercury and hate on cobalts

rouge butterfly reminds me of the fella that tried to fight me for owning a Japanese car and called me an "economic terrorist". Buying American is not the end all answer to the problem. GM, Ford, and Chrysler need the competition they get from Honda, Nissan, Mitsu, BMW, Audi... It forces them to make a better product or they are forced out of business. Just imagine what kind of turds we would be driving if everyone in this country "bought American".

pretty sure the cobalt has a ton of parts made in mexico....like most american made cars...

and god damn i cant stand this deftones fan fuckhead.

wtf are you even talking about

get out of this forum u drive a mercury and hate on cobalts

Watch it noob. I drive a Cobalt daily as I no longer own the Mercury...you know..back when I joined almost FIVE years ago.

Cobalt isn't elite and it's farrrrrrrrrrr from world class.

Fanboi's make me fucking laugh and BTW I'm glad I got under your skin because it means I did my job.

Watch it noob. I drive a Cobalt daily as I no longer own the Mercury...you know..back when I joined almost FIVE years ago.

Cobalt isn't elite and it's farrrrrrrrrrr from world class.

Fanboi's make me fucking laugh and BTW I'm glad I got under your skin because it means I did my job.


Noob? Really? Are you 13...Save it for the xbox team I'm sure you're apart of.:thumbsdow. When did I say I thought the Cobalt was elite? Read before you quote dude. They do teach reading in bumfuck backwoods PA right? Shit I'm surprised they have internet connections out there in Henryville...That place barely has running water..

It means you did your job if you piss me off? Might be time to go turn in that application for Burger King.

You havent gotten under my skin. I have a life that is a little more important than some toothless redneck talkin shit on the internet.

heads up....heads up....heres another one...

GET IT. GET IT.

WHOOP WHOOP.

Noob? Really? Are you 13...Save it for the xbox team I'm sure you're apart of.:thumbsdow. When did I say I thought the Cobalt was elite? Read before you quote dude. They do teach reading in bumfuck backwoods PA right? Shit I'm surprised they have internet connections out there in Henryville...That place barely has running water..

It means you did your job if you piss me off? Might be time to go turn in that application for Burger King.

You havent gotten under my skin. I have a life that is a little more important than some toothless redneck talkin shit on the internet.

AGAIN with the idiotic rants.

First off moron. I'm not originally from this area, which is a VERY nice neighborhood in well kept civic association.

Secondly if I haven't got under you skin then why did you make a post bitching about me when you didn't even quote me. Crying from the other thread I assume.

It's OK though. I've had my fun, but if you want to keep complaining to nobody that's paying attention then be my guest.

Also you're comebacks are lame. Find some new ones.

Secondly if I haven't got under you skin then why did you make a post bitching about me when you didn't even quote me.

because i sit at work for 14 hours a day 7 days a week for the last 95 days with little real work to do...might as well have a little fun

Lol, it makes me laugh listening to how short sighted half you people are. The Cruze will be what garuntees GM will be able to build well built affordable compacts again. Assuming it sells well. And comparing the interior to a Civic is plain fucking ignorant. I've driven a Civic and the interior isn't anywhere as nice as this one. The interior of the Cruze is more along the lines of a cross between the Caddilac CTS (Radio controls and shifter console) and the Buick (center display). The curve of the dash is also very reminiscent to the CTS. So I guess Caddies, Buicks, Infinity M35's and Lexus Luxury cars are all shitty Civic rip offs too? You guys clearly need to look a little harder at successful vehicles and please, do me a favor and don't apply to GM because your logic is just plain fucking ignorant. And ya, the Cobalt would look better if it didn't have ludicrous wheel gap, boring body styling, ugly rear end, wannabe dodge neon tailights and a steering wheel that feels like a lump of frozen corny shit coil. It might also work if it had seats weren't paper thin and so square and un-supportive that anyone above
5'10 and 160 pounds slides off the seat under light cornering. The car feels cheap in every fucking way. At least the SS improves on 85% of these problems but it still doesn't compete with the rest as effectively as it could. The Cruze is a vehicle designed to appeal to the Global population. It's being designed the same around the world to cut manufacturing costs and make everything easier. It also looks way better than the base Civic and better than the Corolla. And the 1.4L Turbo engine I read about is said to be closer to 170 hp and well over 40 mpg. And please, don't preach to me about the base Cobalts great economy. My SS gets better mileage and it isn't overly close to 40 mpg. Nice try though. How about wait until the Cruze comes out before you begin speculating. Last I checked there are alot of European immigrants living in this Country and many more coming so this car will appeal to them as well. You better hope for it's success if you ever want to drive an SS compact again. As for me, i'm holding on to my SS and i'll wait and see what the Cruze offers in Performance and everything else before I start picking it apart. Take the first three letters of assume and that's what half of you sound like.

The Cruze :barf:

Sweet man, too bad it's slow as fuck and the backend is fugly. GM needs to step up and drop the LNF in there and make the SS version a coupe (or at least available as one) and re-do the back end to look a lot better. Then it'll be win.

Naaa... Keep it a Sedan! Most BMW racers prefer sedans as they're torsionally more rigid.

Please please please put the LNF in it, already w/the stage 1 in it...

This Cobalt was my 1st American 'sports car'....from the looks of things to come. THE LAST.