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My 2.2 has 215WHP....I WANT MORE

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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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My 2.2 has 215WHP....I WANT MORE

i put a turbo in the 2.2 and it ran 215WHP, i lowered the weight by about 250lbs but its just not enough. whats a list of things i can do to add more power to this 2.2 if your kind enough to make a list, please list how much it would give me extra.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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more weight reduction, bigger turbo. nitrous perhaps
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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which other mods do you have and tune?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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this should do ti

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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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i do have a tune, i have 60lb injectors. i dont wanna go with a bigger turbo, i want about 250 whp though
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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I'm assuming you already have I/H/E plus the 2.4 manifold and TB. If you don't, do that first. Could also upgrade your pulley and cams. Nitrous is also a possibility.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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i do not have the 2.4 TB/mani....would it be a better airflow. and where is a good place to get it....also will i need a re-tune?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by protorox
i do have a tune, i have 60lb injectors. i dont wanna go with a bigger turbo, i want about 250 whp though
What other mods do you have other than the turbo kit?
If your still on the stock 2.2 exhaust then........
#1. Get a 3" Downpipe with highflow cat and full 3" exhaust system
#2. Get a better intake manifold
#3. NOS
#4. New tune
You'll be over 250 whp
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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get the 2.4 intake mani as said as well as the tb.. yes you'll probably need a retune.. and i'd get a manual boost controller and pop up the boost a pound or 2
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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i would totaly not go 250 unless your gonna grab pistons and rods.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:10 PM
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im running 11psi you think putting it at about 13 will hurt anything on a stock bottom end? and no i dont want NOS. so with the 2.4 TB and mani with a bit more boost, what do you think that will do?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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in the gm build book it says rods and pistons go at 250 i wouldent risk it. ive been researching turboing my car for a while. its really a bad idea. its not so much how much boost your running its just the hp.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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well atleast i want about 230whp and, so taking off exhaust because its a 2.5" magnaflow and getting the 2.4 TB/mani get me a little bit?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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your not gonna notice those kinda gains. if you really want more just invest in pistons and rods. then your good to about 400 (when stock cylinder liners go)

so my 2 cents is live with the nice amount of power you have (thats actually exactlly the numbers im looking to go for soon) or get the pistons and rods.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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ok if i ge the pistons and rods, what is there to do just more psi and little bolt ons?
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:29 PM
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indeed. just crank up the boost and tune it. youll be at 350 before you know it.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 10:58 PM
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until you are above 300hp, 2.5" exhaust it just fine
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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you could always skip the 2.4 manifold and go with the vulcan/gm turbo manifold and ls4 throttle body
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Turn up the boost and get it tuned.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ilovecars
your not gonna notice those kinda gains. if you really want more just invest in pistons and rods. then your good to about 400 (when stock cylinder liners go)

so my 2 cents is live with the nice amount of power you have (thats actually exactlly the numbers im looking to go for soon) or get the pistons and rods.
totally wrong mang. Turbo motors LOVE bolt ons (mainly exhaust bolt ons). You wont notice them on an NA car, but on a car already pushing 215whp, the stock IM is becoming a restriction, and with a 2.5" on a turbo'ed car, of course youll see gains going to a 3".

also...cylinder walls will handle a LOT more than 400...

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in the gm build book it says rods and pistons go at 250 i wouldent risk it. ive been researching turboing my car for a while. its really a bad idea. its not so much how much boost your running its just the hp.
this part is true though. boost doesnt break cars..HP does. you're already on top of the breaking points, and i would recommend getting rods and pistons.

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you could always skip the 2.4 manifold and go with the vulcan/gm turbo manifold and ls4 throttle body
this would work too, but the LS4 TB is WAY to big. get a 2.4TB or a LSJ at the biggest (LSJ will require rewiring the connector though)

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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pacific cobalt
What other mods do you have other than the turbo kit?
If your still on the stock 2.2 exhaust then........
#1. Get a 3" Downpipe with highflow cat and full 3" exhaust system
#2. Get a better intake manifold
#3. NOS
#4. New tune
You'll be over 250 whp

thats what id do. i would have gotta the tune after you were "completely" done with your car.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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this would work too, but the LS4 TB is WAY to big. get a 2.4TB or a LSJ at the biggest (LSJ will require rewiring the connector though)
i don't think it would be too big for a bigger displacement turbo engine if its working fine on our cars
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EXsoccer1921
i don't think it would be too big for a bigger displacement turbo engine if its working fine on our cars
turbo and blower flow dynamics are a bit different. thats why ZZP uses the stock LSJ TB on their twincharged balt.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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if you want more power, turn up the boost...sounds simple enough to me.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HunterKiller89
totally wrong mang. Turbo motors LOVE bolt ons (mainly exhaust bolt ons). You wont notice them on an NA car, but on a car already pushing 215whp, the stock IM is becoming a restriction, and with a 2.5" on a turbo'ed car, of course youll see gains going to a 3".

also...cylinder walls will handle a LOT more than 400...



this part is true though. boost doesnt break cars..HP does. you're already on top of the breaking points, and i would recommend getting rods and pistons.

your right i forgot simple air restrictions are huge on f/i engine.

but i do have to disagree with your statement of the cylinder walls they definitely go at around 400 friend of mine had to get the darton sleeves cuz he blew his to pieces at around 400 hp. currently at 500.


edit- btw just checked the build book again. says replace the cylinder liners at 400.
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