View Full Version : FU#$kin GM!!!!!


DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:27 PM
heres the story guys dont get me wrong but i love my SS to death so i bought it from the dealership last month as a used car..no problem there at all..they optimized ther vechilce did wut i needed and off i went got under the car today to look at the under body and noticed there is new parts and olds parts..new paint and old paint...so i did a Carfax report and it came up telling me the car which is a 06 has been IN 3 ACCIDENTS.. the dealer did not tell me this at all when i bought the car..i am extermely POD cause no the paint on the rear quarters is peeling off and flaking. the dealersays there not going to do nothing at all about the paint casue its out of warrentey but i have the report about it being in 3 accidents...what do u guys think about that.

ace921000
09-07-2009, 01:32 PM
"show me the carfax"

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:33 PM
how would u like me to do that

ssyellow
09-07-2009, 01:33 PM
easy answer, should have gotten car fax.

EDIT- ^^^ beat me to it, you should have done it before you bought the car....

ace921000
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
lmao i was just quoting a carfax commerical. but dude, you should have checked the vehicles history before you bought it. that was pretty stupid man.

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
dont matter there suppose to tell u if it was in any accidents or anythign at all

boosthard05
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
should fall under the lemon law, they have to either fix it or replace it, you can return the car with no negative effects to your credit too

CobaltSScrazy
09-07-2009, 01:34 PM
maybe adjust your title to say:

FU#$kin Stealership!

GM didn't bone you over, that dealer was not forth coming it appears though you should have spent the 30-50$ and gotten the carfax

bshoe421
09-07-2009, 01:37 PM
def should have looked into that before you bought the car. I don't really think there is anything you can do now

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:37 PM
ya true stealership and i did do a car fax but before i signed for the car i asked them if it was in any accidents and they said no

bshoe421
09-07-2009, 01:38 PM
should fall under the lemon law, they have to either fix it or replace it, you can return the car with no negative effects to your credit too

lemon law has nothing to do with a car being in accidents

ShortStack
09-07-2009, 01:38 PM
They dont have to tell you anything... To their knowledge, they probly woudlnt have known anything.. thats why theres a carfax...

You check on a car before you buy it. Sometimes the dealer will give you 30 days to turn the car in with no payments to be made. Now the carfax is there for YOU to use it.. they dont HAVE to give it to you...

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:40 PM
here in Canada it says they have to look into it

ShortStack
09-07-2009, 01:40 PM
ya true stealership and i did do a car fax but before i signed for the car i asked them if it was in any accidents and they said no

If you did the carfax before hand, you would have known about the accidents.

Im going to highly doubt that they said "it wasnt in any accidents".. they probly said they had no prior knowledge of any accidents as it probly passed some 483 point inspection.

bullet20
09-07-2009, 01:41 PM
when i bought my 06 ss/sc i didnt even have to ask for a carfax they handed it right to me
GO GM:lol:

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:41 PM
i asked them was it in any accidents at all and my sales guy looked me in the face and said no

ShortStack
09-07-2009, 01:43 PM
i asked them was it in any accidents at all and my sales guy looked me in the face and said no

IF thats the case.. you should be able to bring it back as long as you have the documentation...

You should actually bring this up to your finance company...

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:44 PM
well i have the report sitting in the dash of the car right now and i am going to the dealer tomoro and if the manager says nothing he can do im going to the onwer

SuperchargedSS
09-07-2009, 01:47 PM
Tough break. At leats next time you will know to ask\research the most important question before buying a used vehicle. Not the dealerships fault at all, they are under no obligation to tell you, and owe you nothing. Sucks, but buyer beware.

bshoe421
09-07-2009, 01:48 PM
you'll prob have better luck calling GM customer support. I had a prob with a dealer and ended up in a yelling match with the owner, long story short called customer support and got more then what i asked for!

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 01:53 PM
ya but nothing is open till tomoro lol

its a holiday here in Canada

rocketrex
09-07-2009, 01:58 PM
easy answer, should have gotten car fax.

EDIT- ^^^ beat me to it, you should have done it before you bought the car....

your right...yes a dealer is suspose to show it to you. but yet again you as the buyer its your damn fault for not doing research on the vehicle you wanted wayyy before you considered getting it...so yeah there right withe the lemon law act and what not but also your fault for not being smart and asking first....noob:lol:

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 02:03 PM
dont matter i asked them and they said nothing was wrong or ever happened to the car s there at fault

06' SS2SS
09-07-2009, 02:21 PM
Caveat emptor

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 02:35 PM
what

Dustin
09-07-2009, 02:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MW538g5j0c

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 03:11 PM
already have a carfax report done but dealer said the car was all good nothign ever wrong with it

swazzees
09-07-2009, 03:19 PM
take it back and csll them liars......if it dont work then well......you have a car thats been smashed up a bunch

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 03:47 PM
ive already got ahold of GM CANADA and lets just say things will work in my favour

2MCHBoost
09-07-2009, 04:15 PM
Adjust the title too "I'm a moron who didn't check out the car before buying it"

rukkee
09-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Pm me the vin and i'll see what comes up in GMVIS . There might be some info in there that might help . If they sold you a car with any type of warranty block or salvage issue you might be able to use it to your advantage.


Another thing about carfax is that they only show insurance claims ......and how many times have you heard of or seen people pay out of pocket not to have a claim on their insurance record? I know quite a few people that have bought car's with clean carfax reports only to find evidence of prior accidents or repairs.

emiller
09-07-2009, 04:40 PM
This is why you look at cars before you buy them. GM doesn't own the dealership either.

Change the title to "FU#$kin dealership took advantage of me because I'm lazy!!!!!"

should fall under the lemon law, they have to either fix it or replace it, you can return the car with no negative effects to your credit too

Its not a new car and the problems were caused by accidents.

rukkee
09-07-2009, 04:53 PM
In the states a used car carries a 30-60-90 day warranty depending on mileage . Not sure about Nova Scotia

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 05:25 PM
when i got the car i got a 30 return its been 40 days now but now that i found out about the accidents it could go either way

ziggity
09-07-2009, 06:41 PM
Where at in Nova Scotia are you? What dealership was it?

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 07:26 PM
in dartmouth and it was forbes chev olds

rocketrex
09-07-2009, 07:54 PM
dont matter i asked them and they said nothing was wrong or ever happened to the car s there at fault

i work at a dealership and its your fault...yeah u got your carfax report woohoo! wrong! u trusted the word of a salesman who dosent even know how to get a real job?:lol: i always ask for them to print me off one right then and there...not believe there word...but you did and your paying for it now...and sorry do not blame gm! that is the dealerships fault not theres...gm doesnt go around everyday to check lots and check cars to see if there correct...dealerships do this everyday..why? easy to make money thats why my smartass uses the autocheck report and never believes what a salesmen says.....sorry to burst your bubble but everyone is going to say its your fault...

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 08:20 PM
HAHA thats where ur wrgon i called gm canada and they have records of the car ever being filed in accidents and ive done 3 vin chckec and they all come up with accidents so some one has FUC6ED up major

Cuda009
09-07-2009, 08:30 PM
The dealership fucked up. GM is now smacking the dealer around. How hard is it to understand that?

DEZZIE41
09-07-2009, 08:31 PM
so i might be in luck

glen229
09-07-2009, 08:32 PM
no it should say FU#$kin cheap ass autobody place that fixed the car i bought that i didnt get a carfax on before i bought it, feel bad for me

rocketrex
09-07-2009, 08:41 PM
^ur right...gm only going to lecture them about it and perhaps they will take your car back...just remember one thing smartass...it was your fault for not asking the appropriate questions before hand that would have saved your ass to begin with....how would you not look into it? think about this..before you buy a used home are you going to believe the reliator? hell no your going to do some checks on the place before you sign a contract....so yes glad to hear you won and all that blah blah blah but you would have saved your time and bitchyness if you could have asked for one simple paper that would have been free since most dealerships work with carfax instead of you buying it for the amount on there website...fail/thread

car_guy_09
09-07-2009, 11:47 PM
HAHA thats where ur wrgon i called gm canada and they have records of the car ever being filed in accidents and ive done 3 vin chckec and they all come up with accidents so some one has FUC6ED up major

You did. You where takin advantage of. Has nothing to do with GM

kingg5
09-07-2009, 11:50 PM
i asked them was it in any accidents at all and my sales guy looked me in the face and said no

unfortunatly, asking if a car has been in any accidents and asking for a carfax, are two entirely differnet things.

cartercar
09-08-2009, 02:44 AM
why not keep the car just get a lot of your money back! As long as it runs good I would be ok with it ONLY if you get a nice deal off it.

DC52NV
09-08-2009, 04:32 AM
can't believe you didn't read the car fax yourself and trusted a salesperson's answer on something so vital as a car fax. you trusted a saleperson that works for government motors that need to make sales to stay alive. i truly hope everything works out for you but chevy dealerships have never been known for great customer service in the past. i've owned 3 gm vehivles in my life and it's a hassle dealing w/ their dealerhips.

moved your thread to problems and service since this has nothing to do w/ performance.

demento
09-08-2009, 06:12 AM
already have a carfax report done but dealer said the car was all good nothign ever wrong with it

you mean he did.nt show you a note from the previous owner or the car fox:nono:

rocketrex
09-08-2009, 08:47 AM
can't believe you didn't read the car fax yourself and trusted a salesperson's answer on something so vital as a car fax. you trusted a saleperson that works for government motors that need to make sales to stay alive. i truly hope everything works out for you but chevy dealerships have never been known for great customer service in the past. i've owned 3 gm vehivles in my life and it's a hassle dealing w/ their dealerhips.

moved your thread to problems and service since this has nothing to do w/ performance.

good one sir:lol:

DEZZIE41
09-09-2009, 11:38 AM
well i got it all settled out GM canada got a hold of the dealer and the dealer called me saying they will paint it

Dustin
09-09-2009, 01:28 PM
Will they paint it gold?

RS75GT 1SS
09-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Be an informed buyer, next time. You should have done the research.

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Don't blame GM, they had nothing to do with you buying a used car.

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You're ignorant, you signed on the dotted line without knowing what you were getting into.

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YOUR FAULT.
/rant

07MetallicSC
09-09-2009, 01:34 PM
paint it bling bling pink. itll fit perfectly in with this thread after that.

Joe Schulte
09-09-2009, 01:35 PM
Quit being a pussy and blame yourself.

07MetallicSC
09-09-2009, 01:56 PM
what he said!

rocketrex
09-09-2009, 02:09 PM
lol epic fail thread

rukkee
09-09-2009, 03:39 PM
The guy drove the car for a month and now the paint is falling off in spots. Everyone here would be pissed about that ........why not just back off.

RedSSBaltSC
09-09-2009, 03:43 PM
I think you need to change the title to the thread, that has nothing to do with GM. But sucks you went to a shitty dealership

agent007kimball
09-09-2009, 03:55 PM
General rule for me is that if I am looking at a car from a Dealership, ask for the carfax and shell out the extra 40-50 bucks for it...better to know outright what the car is like....and if someting comes up on carfax and you still want the car, use that as a bargaining tool.

If I am looking at a car from a Private seller, I pick up a carfax and if I am still interested, I have a mechanic who is familiar with that type of car come with me to check it out. If you offer to give a mechanic $100 in cash, they will almost always come out with you and spend 15 minutes to look the car over for irregularities. This way you can make sure nothing is out of the norm or not as described.

It may be a bit anal, but when shelling out for the cost of a car, I would rather spend an extra few hundred to make sure the car is in acceptable condition.

I have actually saved thousands by using the carfax at a BMW dealer. I also managed to avoid buying a 68 Mustang which actually had a bent frame that was discovered by my mechanic...something which the owner did not divulge.

Chinelli3589
09-09-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm glad that something like CarFax exsists...but am I the only one who thinks its wrong that you should have to pay for information like that? You have to pay to know the history of a vehicle? Yea, don't get me wrong...it's definatly better than not knowing...but yea. I kinda think its wrong

demento
09-09-2009, 07:47 PM
consider your self VERY lucky you bought it from a GM dealership. if it were any other or a private deal you would of been S O L . and even if the dealership did or did not know about the 3 accidents is not the issue. GM probably called them and said make the problem go away as they have guide lines that their dealerships have to follow towards giving good and fair service to customers buying GM cars

DeftonesFan867
09-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Are you going to blame GM for you bad spelling and piss poor grammar as well?

demento
09-09-2009, 08:05 PM
opinions vary

SSlobalt
09-10-2009, 12:14 PM
Paint or not, it has still been in 3 accidents. Get it painted and sell it at a loss, then start over. If you don't sell it, you're just going to be pissed about it all the time.

Blue_Balt
09-10-2009, 12:24 PM
How is it GM's fault that you're an idiot who didn't research the history of a used car before you bought it.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5359/32173172.jpg

rocketrex
09-10-2009, 08:18 PM
The guy drove the car for a month and now the paint is falling off in spots. Everyone here would be pissed about that ........why not just back off.

he could have saved his own ass by asking the dealership to give the carfax report he didnt his fault end of story...

rukkee
09-10-2009, 09:50 PM
You guys act like carfax is the end all in car buying. Carfax only has records on insurance claims......guess how many people pay out of pocket for repair's to keep it off their insurance ......a ton. I agree that when buying a used car you should know what your looking at ....if not bring someone who does. A carfax is great but isn't going to tell the whole story on some car's .

Regardless a Chevy dealership shouldn't be sell used car's that start shedding their paint 32 days after the sale ........ I'd expect that out of some hole in the wall used car dealer but not a GM dealership.

warrenb213
09-10-2009, 10:40 PM
F*ck dealerships. The dealerships are a big reason that GM didn't continue to excel and maintain dominance in the world market. My parents bought a cobalt, as did I, they were the first two GM's purchased by our family in over 15 years.

My mom's Cobalt, pretty much perfect 4 door sedan. My Cobalt is perfect except for a couple things. Biggest problem being my passenger door makes contact, I've got records of coming into the dealer 3 times to get it fixed, and each time they've told me it's not the door. The service manager there even had the nerve to tell me that the damage is being caused by something else making contact. I've taken it to auto shops and each say it's obvious that the contact is between the door and the body. Yet this dealer, would not take responsibility. How much would you want to bet that if I brought it back now, now that it's NOT under warranty, they'll tell me it's the door making contact and they can fix it?

The last GM we owned was a Camaro. It was such a cool car, F-Body I believe a 92. BUT, of course it had issues the entire 5 years we owned the car, noises and electrical issues. And this is on a car with zero mods. The dealers kept saying they could find nothing making noise or witness the electrical issues.

Pretty much every person I know has their GM dealership war story.

So, while yes it is the dealer he should be pissed at, the actions of these dealers directly reflect upon GM.

This is another reason why GM has cut a large amount of dealer contracts, required that new GMs are sold with only other new GMs, and is ramping up on the image of GM service(think about all the Goodwrench commercials as of late!). The news of this new 60 days money back guarantee they are offering now even further speaks of the confidence GM corporation has behind its products.

BUT, if the dealers won't truly honor the full extent of the warranties, nor honor customers by selling good new/used GM products at GM dealers, GM is still doomed. It's always been about the dealerships. They suck, always have sucked, that's why GM is said to suck.

rocketrex
09-11-2009, 01:39 AM
autocheck as well...funny i can pull the vin and look at the last owner,,,but thats me i would and always look top and bottom at the cars before i buy a used one

rukkee
09-11-2009, 12:22 PM
Between my wife and I we have had almost 20 GM vehicles and the one time we have had a major issue was with a new 05 equinox . It blew the head gasket at 12K miles .... blew the rearend at 18K and had the drive shaft carrier explode right around 20K. Everything was covered but it was a pain in the ass. Other than that it's all been little stuff . I had a 95 Z28 that i bought new and sold with 90K miles on it . It had well over 200 quarter mile passes on it and never had one issue. Oil and filters was it .....I didn't ever replace a set of brake pads or rotor's it's whole life......unbelievable i know ....but true. It needed them when i sold it but it's still a pretty good testament to how good that car was.

rocketrex
09-11-2009, 09:41 PM
^thats because you know how to drive lol

tuner923
09-11-2009, 09:56 PM
should fall under the lemon law, they have to either fix it or replace it, you can return the car with no negative effects to your credit too

you need to look into the lemon law man, it only pertains to NEW vehicles.

souchak2112
09-11-2009, 09:59 PM
well its too late. Get a new paint job and tell the dealer to go F%&k himself