I would like to take a moment and welcome HP Tuners as Supporting Vendors on CobaltSS.net. I hear they have some sort of software LSJ owners will want ;) wink wink

http://hptuners.com

Welcome guys :cssNET:

my prayers are answered:lock:

Sweet fancy Moses....

And the lord shineth down and sayeth...take thyne hptuners software...and tuneth thye car...for it is all that and bag of potato chips

Hi guys,

Chris here from HP Tuners, glad to be aboard and looking forward to seeing some results when we release the software!

Cheers,

Chris...

How does it actually work? We modify the calibration ourselves?

Your presence is greatly welcomed. I am sure you will be getting lots of questions.

How does it actually work? We modify the calibration ourselves?

Yes, you read the calibration from your PCM, then are able to edit various things. When you're done you write the changes back again. The VCM Suite software also includes scanning capability that allows you to read engine parameters and DTC's to assist the tuning process.

Chris...

Quick question, is your software Mac compatible? I would assume not but figured I would ask. Just bought a new Powerbook :\ If not guess I will upgrading to a Macbook and booting with windows, lol.

Quick question, is your software Mac compatible? I would assume not but figured I would ask. Just bought a new Powerbook :\ If not guess I will upgrading to a Macbook and booting with windows, lol.

No it's windows only at this time.

any plans on a 2.2 version?

Quick question, is your software Mac compatible? I would assume not but figured I would ask. Just bought a new Powerbook :\ If not guess I will upgrading to a Macbook and booting with windows, lol.

A Pa-Pa-Pa-Powerbook:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hush Hush, better than that POS compaq of yours (j/k) What's funny is Dave said the samething about my pbook when he used it :/

Are you by chance referring to that story about the P-P-P-Powerbook scam on eBay?

stick to the topic, no mac bashing/conversation start another thread in the lounge for that guys

Tuning LSJ finally is hear. Will you guys be coming up with some base line settings for some of the pulley sizes, intakes, exhausts and injectors? I am new to tuning so I will need some help. Do you suggest getting a wide band O2 sensor or any other sensors to help in the tuning?

I went through you site briefly and did not see anything specific to the LSJ. Will you be updating that when you release it.

Anyway I would like to thank you guys for cumming up with this new tuning software. From what I saw on the Web it looks grate.

Hush Hush, better than that POS compaq of yours (j/k) What's funny is Dave said the samething about my pbook when he used it :/

Are you by chance referring to that story about the P-P-P-Powerbook scam on eBay?

$400 Compaq FTW!!!!

And the ebay scam is exactly what i was referring to LMAO:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Lmao, I remember reading that ages ago, was like a 20 page PDF.

Anywho back on subject, I would also like to know if you guys offer any type of pre-configured settings for people that are new to tuning, depending on pulley size, iinjectors and what not. I have no idea how to use something like this :/

Also, IIRC the software is in beta 2 for the LSJ? About what time would a public release be? Also for about what price?

Tuning LSJ finally is hear. Will you guys be coming up with some base line settings for some of the pulley sizes, intakes, exhausts and injectors? I am new to tuning so I will need some help. Do you suggest getting a wide band O2 sensor or any other sensors to help in the tuning?

I went through you site briefly and did not see anything specific to the LSJ. Will you be updating that when you release it.

Anyway I would like to thank you guys for cumming up with this new tuning software. From what I saw on the Web it looks grate.

We don't offer tunes as part of our software, we leave that up to the users, tunershops and mailorder tuners that use our software.

I would highly recommend getting a wideband O2 sensor for tuning along with our MPVI Pro interface that lets you log the wideband data right alongside the vehicles OBD2 data. For boosted applications it is especially important to know you are not running lean.

Our forum has a 4/5/6 cyl tuning section at the moment, if we see demand for a seperate forum for the 4cyl's or specifically LSJ's then we can do that.

Chris...

We don't offer tunes as part of our software, we leave that up to the users, tunershops and mailorder tuners that use our software.

I would highly recommend getting a wideband O2 sensor for tuning along with our MPVI Pro interface that lets you log the wideband data right alongside the vehicles OBD2 data. For boosted applications it is especially important to know you are not running lean.

Our forum has a 4/5/6 cyl tuning section at the moment, if we see demand for a seperate forum for the 4cyl's or specifically LSJ's then we can do that.

Chris...

I think it be safe to go ahead and do so.

It's great to have you guys aboard, I think I speak for all of us when I say we greatly appreciate all your time and contribution to the Cobalt community.

While I myself am pretty cluless when it comes to tuning (although I'm slowly, slowly learning lol), I really hope tuner shops will take advantage of the software and start making custom mail order tunes available.

will i be able to use my palm to adjust on the go, lol, so say i wanna adjusts tuff on the fly at the track,

That is what a cheapy ebay laptop is for.

So what will it come with? The software and cable to connect?

just wondering if you have any estimation on a price for this? sounds good

Its 499 for the base package with 8 credits.

Welcome HP Tuners and thank you for all of your work on making a program for us. :twothumbs

What are the credits actually used for? Software updates?

What are the credits actually used for? Software updates?

I believe it has to do with tuning of the vehicle. It takes so many credits per vehicle VIN so if you want to tune more than 1 vehicle it takes more credits. I don't know what the exact numbers are but that is my best rough estimate.

What are the credits actually used for? Software updates?

credits are used to license vehicles you wish to tune. We have various licensing levels designed for home enthusiasts, small tunershops and large tunershops. Various license options cost different amounts of credits.

eg. to license a single vehicle (VIN) might be 2 credits, to get an unlimited tuning license (we call these year/model licenses) for the 2005 Cobalt SS (tune any 2005 Cobalt SS) might be 6 credits.

A credit costs $49.99 and there are discounts for bulk purchases.

There is also a migration scheme (called upgrade credits) that counts 75% of your investment in VIN licenses towards the applicable year/model license so smaller tunershops or weekend warriors can have a low risk, pay-as-you-grow entry into our software.

There is a FAQ here: http://www.hptuners.com/credit_faq.html

Software updates are FREE!

Cheers,

Chris...

Do you have to use credits to upload a bin. or hpt. file from another user so that you can use it?

Do you have to use credits to upload a bin. or hpt. file from another user so that you can use it?

You can open/view any file we support. This means you can easily copy/paste the main changes you might want to make like the spark tables etc.

However, to save changes or write to a PCM you must be licensed for both the PCM and the file you are writing to it (if the file did not come from the PCM then you need two licenses or the year/model license). At the moment you must have the year/model license for your PCM to write a compatible file from another vehicle to it unless you have access to the vehicle you want to license (you can't just license a file as yet). In a future release we will allow you to license individual files without having access to the vehicle.

Chris...

Thanks a bunch, do you know how many credit a single VIN LSJ is going to be?

is this program gonna b like tune on the go? where u have the laptop hooked up in ur car logging while your drivin and if u want to make a change just do it as you come across things? like you have it hooked up for drivin a trip and u set it up to save gas and when u get there you set it back to drive normal? or you get to the track and upload a saved program for the track and make ajustments from race to race? Sorry so many questions im very interested in this program

Thanks a bunch, do you know how many credit a single VIN LSJ is going to be?

2 credits for single vehicle, 6 for year/model. So your base package (comes with 8 credits) will be good for 4 single vehicles or 1 single vehicle and 1 year/model without any further purchase.

Awesome...I like how you guys are acitve and answering all of our questions right away. I have the money saved and the laptop is ready to play!!!!

is this program gonna b like tune on the go? where u have the laptop hooked up in ur car logging while your drivin and if u want to make a change just do it as you come across things? like you have it hooked up for drivin a trip and u set it up to save gas and when u get there you set it back to drive normal? or you get to the track and upload a saved program for the track and make ajustments from race to race? Sorry so many questions im very interested in this program

to reflash the stock PCM, the engine must not be running. So its not real time tuning, however the scanner offers histogram capability that makes many tuning tasks a simple copy/paste/reflash procedure.

ok yes i'm an idiot!!!!

BUT! how does this all work? over a lap top? how do u know what your changeing??

I'm lovein the fact that we can finaly do it but i have no idea whats goin on or how to do it

A biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig welcome to HPTuners !!!! :o) Any precise day / date for the V2.1.10 release ? Thanks !

needs to be a pc of some sort im guessing. Is this available NOW?

Does it have the ability to save the stock ECU configurations, so you can re-flash it back into the ECU for dealership work?

Can I basically, turn the car off select the stock tune file, flash the ECU, and BAM i'm back to stock? Then later can I select my dyno tuned file, with the car off again, flash the ECU and BAM I'm running like a rapped ape again? If this is true, I will be buying one once it's released.

ok thank you for answering my question so quickly. do u know if u will be coming out with a real time tuning and logging ne time soon?

Yes sir, you can do exactly that. Save you stock file and flash it back to stock if need be.

You can open/view any file we support. This means you can easily copy/paste the main changes you might want to make like the spark tables etc.

However, to save changes or write to a PCM you must be licensed for both the PCM and the file you are writing to it (if the file did not come from the PCM then you need two licenses or the year/model license). At the moment you must have the year/model license for your PCM to write a compatible file from another vehicle to it unless you have access to the vehicle you want to license (you can't just license a file as yet). In a future release we will allow you to license individual files without having access to the vehicle.

Chris...


Ok,

A friend and I are each going to purchase the HPTuners. We both have RED 2005 Ion Redlines. He has the GM reflash. Will he be able to offload that file, send it to me using his software, then send it to me and I will flash my computer with it wth my software. Will this work? If not...how will I make it work?

Thanks,

Dan

dam i feel sorry for the guys at HP....there the first to crack the ecu and now were all like little kids in a candy store with all these questions!

THANKS IN ADVANCE HP!!!

keep answerin them questions you guys are top notch!

Welcome HP Tuners! Glad to have you hear. Moderators, we need a tuning section. :)
Chris, when can I order HP Tuners for my 2006 LSJ? My injectors are maxed, and I can't put bigger ones in untill I can tune. Please say "now". :)

Just to give you HPTuner newbies some idea, on my 04 ImpalaSS, i went from 12.8@106 to 12.26@112 just be optimizing my tuning using HPTuners software. NO engine changes at all !!!!!!!!!:twothumbs That was on an already custom tuned PCM from a competitor!!!!!:guns:

We the package include a generic, better then stock tune?

For tuning newbs...

Thanks,
Rich

We the package include a generic, better then stock tune?

For tuning newbs...

Thanks,
Rich


That's been answered...reread the thread.

We don't offer tunes as part of our software, we leave that up to the users, tunershops and mailorder tuners that use our software.

I would highly recommend getting a wideband O2 sensor for tuning along with our MPVI Pro interface that lets you log the wideband data right alongside the vehicles OBD2 data. For boosted applications it is especially important to know you are not running lean.

Our forum has a 4/5/6 cyl tuning section at the moment, if we see demand for a seperate forum for the 4cyl's or specifically LSJ's then we can do that.

Chris...


here it is

welcome, but whats the rumor that you will be leaving us 2.2L guys in the dark?

Welcome HP Tuners! Glad to have you hear. Moderators, we need a tuning section. :)
Chris, when can I order HP Tuners for my 2006 LSJ? My injectors are maxed, and I can't put bigger ones in untill I can tune. Please say "now". :)

Any word on a possible group purchase? I know Bado6ss, Fast06SS, I(Enufpwr) and a bunch of others will be purchasing this as soon as it is released.

Any word on a possible group purchase? I know Bado6ss, Fast06SS, I(Enufpwr) and a bunch of others will be purchasing this as soon as it is released.

I already own HPTuners software and cable. It will be just a credit add for me;)

How is the Beta release Fast06SS, showing noticable gains/progress with HPtuners?

And also, will this add on to the intense stage 3 kit, or take the place of the maf-t or what I know about engines and operation, but this is way newer technology than I am used to (read as "old school")

I already own HPTuners software and cable. It will be just a credit add for me;)


Fast06ss did you have the cable and software when you pull a 12.94?

I don't have the Cobalt software yet. I wish !!!!!:lol: I have a big race to go to this friday night so if HPT comes thru i may be breaking some records this friday with my new software!!;)

The 12.9 was on stock tune!

It's good to see a new vendor... especially one that has broken into the comp... welcome hp tuners

welcome, but whats the rumor that you will be leaving us 2.2L guys in the dark?

The Cobalt family actually has 3 different PCM's depending on which engine you have. Some even have a TCM (transmission control module as well). In time we will try to support them but there's no guarantee until we investigate them fully.

Chris...

Ok,

A friend and I are each going to purchase the HPTuners. We both have RED 2005 Ion Redlines. He has the GM reflash. Will he be able to offload that file, send it to me using his software, then send it to me and I will flash my computer with it wth my software. Will this work? If not...how will I make it work?

Thanks,

Dan

This is great news I can't wait for the release.
Joe

Ok,

A friend and I are each going to purchase the HPTuners. We both have RED 2005 Ion Redlines. He has the GM reflash. Will he be able to offload that file, send it to me using his software, then send it to me and I will flash my computer with it wth my software. Will this work? If not...how will I make it work?

Thanks,

Dan

Right now you have 2 choices:

1. use 6 credits and choose the 2005 Redline year/model license when you read your vehicle.
2. get him to send you his file and use our file compare feature to compare the changes. Them simply copy/paste the tables over.

My advice is use those calibrations as a guide only, there is no way they will be delivering maximum performance. Every engine is different and in boosted applications it's even more critical. On LS1 V8's i've put exactly the same tunes in two identical cars and got two differnt results. I've owned a s/c'd LS1 for 2 years now and tuned a hell of lot of them and it's amazing how different tunes can turn out for what you think is an identical setup. My guess is the factory tunes are agressive down low and mid rpm to give that great seat of the pants feel, but then get conservative up top to prevent guys sending back 4 busted pistons and a torched head gasket ;)

Once you guys get familiar with the various fuel and knock retard histograms (and the audible sound of knock) you will learn to find the optimum timing and fueling for your combo very quickly.

Hope that helps,

Chris...

Right now you have 2 choices:

1. use 6 credits and choose the 2005 Redline year/model license when you read your vehicle.
2. get him to send you his file and use our file compare feature to compare the changes. Them simply copy/paste the tables over.

My advice is use those calibrations as a guide only, there is no way they will be delivering maximum performance. Every engine is different and in boosted applications it's even more critical. On LS1 V8's i've put exactly the same tunes in two identical cars and got two differnt results. I've owned a s/c'd LS1 for 2 years now and tuned a hell of lot of them and it's amazing how different tunes can turn out for what you think is an identical setup. My guess is the factory tunes are agressive down low and mid rpm to give that great seat of the pants feel, but then get conservative up top to prevent guys sending back 4 busted pistons and a torched head gasket ;)

Once you guys get familiar with the various fuel and knock retard histograms (and the audible sound of knock) you will learn to find the optimum timing and fueling for your combo very quickly.

Hope that helps,

Chris...


I mean its a GM tune so of course i figure its on the safe side its just already got values for the increased redline and the injectors im running so i dont need the maf-t any more. I'd use it as a guide and I already have a wideband O2 installed in the car so I should have everything I need to tune it correct?

Thanks,

Dan

Chris welcome to our wonderful community.
and it's about time, lol
now I should be able to tune for my cams.

I have two questions.

1. For the Year/Model license does that mean if I get 2005/CobaltSS that I won't be able to tune a 2006, 0r 2007 ( I just need to clarify that one )

2. Do you know of any literature that we can purchase to help some of use less expierianced tuners, so we don't destroy are cars. ( tips and trips, do's and do not's)
something that would give someone a good base so they can start tuning with more confidense.

thanks and I can't wait to start

Chris welcome to our wonderful community.
and it's about time, lol
now I should be able to tune for my cams.

I have two questions.

1. For the Year/Model license does that mean if I get 2005/CobaltSS that I won't be able to tune a 2006, 0r 2007 ( I just need to clarify that one )

2. Do you know of any literature that we can purchase to help some of use less expierianced tuners, so we don't destroy are cars. ( tips and trips, do's and do not's)
something that would give someone a good base so they can start tuning with more confidense.

thanks and I can't wait to start

1. correct, to tune other years you have to license them. ie. to have unlimited tuning for 04-06 Cobalt and Redline you would need 30 credits (5 x 6).

2. nothing much is available. The best source i know of is our help files and forum. There are generic efi training courses you can do and books available but they are very non-specific.

http://www.hptuners.com/help/

http://www.hptuners.com/forum

Chris...

chris any word on a possible release date???

any good guess will help me out

chris any word on a possible release date???

any good guess will help me out

Sure, how about today ;)

http://cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19331

www.hptuners.com

Chris...

1. correct, to tune other years you have to license them. ie. to have unlimited tuning for 04-06 Cobalt and Redline you would need 30 credits (5 x 6).

2. nothing much is available. The best source i know of is our help files and forum. There are generic efi training courses you can do and books available but they are very non-specific.

http://www.hptuners.com/help/

http://www.hptuners.com/forum

Chris...


thanks for the info chris

HPTuner

Not sure if this was asked but do you support the 2.4? If so what do i need?

HPTuner

Not sure if this was asked but do you support the 2.4? If so what do i need?

Not yet, we are investigating it for a future release. I can't put a date on it yet.

Chris...

Thats because you are working on the E16 ECM for the L61 engines first, right!?!?! ;)

do you need tunning for camshafts? is this available with hp tunners?